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Started by commuterdude, June 29, 2008, 10:24:54 AM

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commuterdude

Does anyone know the item number or would recommend a 520 o ring chain with the snap link feature?  I don't see where they mention the method of linking the chain and I would like to get  an open link type.
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GeeP

check out motochains.com

DID 520SRX X-ring chain.

Should come with a snap link in the box.  If you want a rivet link, that's extra.

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commuterdude

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thanks a bunch, er, looks like motochains.com is an old link or something.    Oh, I got it it's www.moto-chains.com

thanks again!
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ben2go

I got an RK O-ring chain in our specs for $35 off ebay a couple months back.They come with a clip type master link.
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bombadillo

how much of a difference would an x-ring chain make compared to a cheapo 20 dollar roller chain???
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AFMO

X/O ring vs cheapo roller chain...the reason for the price difference is maintenance.  O ring seals keep dirt and grime away from the chain pins, and need lube/cleaning every 600 or so miles.  They have internal lubrication, and usually last longer.  A simple roller chain works fine, but must be cleaned and lubed much more often, because there are no O-rings keeping lube on the chain, and dirt off.
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bombadillo

Thats the thing, when I went from my last chain which was probably the original, to this one, it felt like it freed up power because it was all crappy and stretched out and rusty.  The new one, was lube free, not gummed up, and rolled perfectly.  I couldn't believe the difference it made.  I was wondering if it was actually a lower rolling resistance.  If its just for maintenance, I'll clean and do up my chain all I need to and see how long I can make the sucker last.
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GeeP

As AFMO said, the problem with standard roller chains is contaminants make it between the plates and pins and grind the fit, as there is no seal to keep dirt out.  Obviously, the opposite is true of the lubricant.  It quickly migrates out of the chain.  Motorcycle chains lead a very stressful life.  While a motorcycle chain will average 400 to 500 hours in service, the benchmark lifespan for the same chain in an enclosed continuously filtered oil bath is 50,000 hours. 

X-ring chains are supposed to be an improvement over O-ring chains by providing more sealing surface.  The seal has the cross-section of an X rather than an O, providing four points of contact instead of two.  If you keep an o-ring chain clean, it should last about 15,000 miles.  An O-ring chain continuously lubed with gear oil can last 80,000 miles or more, but is a massive mess.

I lube my chains with Dupont Multi-Purpose Tefon dry lubricant.  It repels water and dust while remaining sling-free unlike gear oil.  Sticky lubricants are, in my opinion, a waste.  While the material itself may be good for the chain, it attracts and retains dirt which is ground between the moving fits.

Commuterdude, my mistake but you found the place.
Every zero you add to the tolerance adds a zero to the price.

If the product "fails" will the product liability insurance pay for the "failure" until it turns 18?

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gsJack

A DID o-ring chain from www.moto-chains.com for $69.18 looks like the same one I've bought from Chaparral about once a year since 1999 for $57.20.  It comes with a clip type master link.

http://www.chaparral-racing.com/Chaparral/productr.asp?pf%5Fid=312%2D1910&gift=False&HSLB=False&mscssid=C252E1CBA9B04C6BB25C90DE55211B54

http://www.moto-chains.com/site/898528/product/d520v


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ben2go

Quote from: GeeP on June 30, 2008, 12:25:46 AM
As AFMO said, the problem with standard roller chains is contaminants make it between the plates and pins and grind the fit, as there is no seal to keep dirt out.  Obviously, the opposite is true of the lubricant.  It quickly migrates out of the chain.  Motorcycle chains lead a very stressful life.  While a motorcycle chain will average 400 to 500 hours in service, the benchmark lifespan for the same chain in an enclosed continuously filtered oil bath is 50,000 hours. 

X-ring chains are supposed to be an improvement over O-ring chains by providing more sealing surface.  The seal has the cross-section of an X rather than an O, providing four points of contact instead of two.  If you keep an o-ring chain clean, it should last about 15,000 miles.  An O-ring chain continuously lubed with gear oil can last 80,000 miles or more, but is a massive mess.

I lube my chains with Dupont Multi-Purpose Tefon dry lubricant.  It repels water and dust while remaining sling-free unlike gear oil.  Sticky lubricants are, in my opinion, a waste.  While the material itself may be good for the chain, it attracts and retains dirt which is ground between the moving fits.

Commuterdude, my mistake but you found the place.


GeeP where you get that lube.I went to get some Maximum and my dealer doesn't sell it no more.
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GeeP

Ben2go, Lowes usually stocks it in the tool aisle.   :thumb:
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If the product "fails" will the product liability insurance pay for the "failure" until it turns 18?

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ben2go

Quote from: GeeP on June 30, 2008, 01:18:16 PM
Ben2go, Lowes usually stocks it in the tool aisle.   :thumb:


Cool. Thanks.I think I ask you about it one other time and I couldn't find it where they usually keep their lubes.
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