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LED gauges question

Started by Darkmyst, July 18, 2008, 12:37:50 AM

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Darkmyst

I've gone and replaced my gauge lights and the idiot lights with LED's  (Followed the wiki instructions) however the turn signal idiot light I had to leave stock because with the led it would only flash for left or for right depending on which way I put the bulb in.  Is there a relatively easy solution(defined as 10-15 minutes fiddling and/or $5ish for a part) to make this work or is it really going to require buying some diodes and spend time cutting/soldering wires?

In case it makes any difference it's an '06 full faired model.

Thanks in advance,
-Rael

tripleb

I think you'll find that it's a DIY job...Unless you're deadset on having an LED turn signal lindicator, I'd just stick with the OEM one.
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Darkmyst

I'll just live.  It's kinda irritating that the others are so nice and bright but the turn signal is so dim.  It's mostly irritating because I have a bad habit of forgetting that my signals don't turn off automatically and realizing 2 blocks later that I've been turning right for 4 turns in a row...  Oh well, at least my gauges glow red at night instead of that sickly yellow/white.  Maybe I'll fiddle with it when I work on a gear indicator.


starwalt

Quote from: Darkmyst on July 18, 2008, 01:34:24 PM... Maybe I'll fiddle with it when I work on a gear indicator.

You did look over John Bate's gear indicator mod didn't you?
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DoD#i

The cutting and wiring probably shouldn't take more than 15 minutes, but getting to the wires will probably take longer, especially on a faired bike.

One possible modification, making use of the diode behavior, but requiring some new spots to mount LEDs (can be quite small and inexpensive if you use bare LEDs, rather than light housings and LED bulbs) would be to wire in a separate left and right indicator, and put them a bit further up (for bare bikes this might be either the top of the cluster or on the mirrors, for faired bikes you'll have more options).
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mach1

I was looking to replace the gauges with round digital gauges how hard would the wiring be?
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Darkmyst

I did indeed look over the gear indicator mod stuff.   I'm thinking I'll use the gear switch from the 7 segment design, but I don't much car for the 7 segment design, I like the idea of an ark of leds(maybe going through a range of color I.E. 1st/2nd being blue, 3rd green, 4th yellow, 5th orange, and 6th red or some such) better than just a display.  I'm weird that way.

I also want a digital speedo setup too so, meh.  Upgrades that will actually -do- something first, like, progressive springs for the front.

DoD#i

#8
Quote from: Darkmyst on July 19, 2008, 05:19:19 PM
I did indeed look over the gear indicator mod stuff.   I'm thinking I'll use the gear switch from the 7 segment design, but I don't much car for the 7 segment design, I like the idea of an ark of leds(maybe going through a range of color I.E. 1st/2nd being blue, 3rd green, 4th yellow, 5th orange, and 6th red or some such) better than just a display.  I'm weird that way.

I also want a digital speedo setup too so, meh.  Upgrades that will actually -do- something first, like, progressive springs for the front.

The six LED version came first, and is linked below. I'm not clear from a few things said there whether pre-'96 GS500's already have the 7 contact switch, then 96-03 have one contact, and 04- have the different system with resistance, or whether pre-96 also only have the single contact. I probably ought to get under my sprocket cover to clean out the crud, and have a look while I'm there. The switch is $46 or so plus shipping. The rest is trivial for a dot-type display. If the switch is there with all 7 contacts on the 90, I might play with it come winter - otherwise it's too much money for a fluffy thing (ie, if I'm going 5000 at 50 I'm in 5th, and if I'm going 4000 at 50 I'm in 6th, and if I try to upshift and I can't I'm in 6th wishing I had 7th, and if I try to downshift and I can't, I'm in 1st. First day back on the bike it would have been useful since I had not re-developed the habit of downshifting while braking to a stop/slowdown, but now that that habit is back in form, not something I actually need...

http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=15563.0

Ride more first. Critical maintenance second. Upgrades that actually do something third (winter has a purpose). Upgrades that don't do something either never and save significant money, or in the latter part of winter if you feel you simply must - but have the bike raring to go as soon as spring is sprung - not fardling around with half-finished "upgrades". A bike on the road is worth 10 in pieces in the garage.
1990 GS500EL - with moderately-ugly paintjob.
1982 XJ650LJ -  off the road for slow repairs
AGATT - All Gear All The Time
"Ride a motorcycle.  Save Gas, Oil, Rubber, Steel, Aluminum, Parking Spaces, The Environment, and Money.  Plus, you get to wear all the leather you want!"
(from DoD#296)

starwalt

#9
None of the GS since 89 have more than one wire (neutral) gear selector.

John Bates used a GSXR selector that has the multiple wires for the gear positions.

I wouldn't do this mod without building an engine control system that also records rpm, exhaust temp, mph, and relative humidity and temperature, and realtime posting of those values on my webpage.

Oh, it also has to have a USB port and have retinal scan ID for starting the engine with multilanguage feedback on engine conditions.

A female voice -- it must talk to me like the computer on the Enterprise.
Better yet, I want Jeri Ryan's voice as Seven of Nine...



I did this in honor of my post #1700 which this is but won't be know in the avatar after the next post.
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God save us from LED turn signal mods!

Get an Ebay GS value  HERE.

1990 GS running, 1990 GS work-in-progress, 1990 basket case.
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the mole

#10
Quote from: starwalt on July 19, 2008, 07:35:30 PM
"None of the GS since 89 have more than one wire (neutral) gear selector."

I have an '06 and it has 3 wires, for neutral and I think second and third. I was thinking of making a gear indicator and bought a GS 450 switch, but now I'm concerned that the other wires must do something, presumably with ignition control, so am reluctant to mess with it.

How do I get what I've written seperate from the quote??

DoD#i

04-present have something with a 3 wires (and perhaps variable resistance) that talks to the black box/engine computer/whatever you want to call it.

Well covered in the linked threads, I thought.
1990 GS500EL - with moderately-ugly paintjob.
1982 XJ650LJ -  off the road for slow repairs
AGATT - All Gear All The Time
"Ride a motorcycle.  Save Gas, Oil, Rubber, Steel, Aluminum, Parking Spaces, The Environment, and Money.  Plus, you get to wear all the leather you want!"
(from DoD#296)

starwalt

Quote from: the mole on July 21, 2008, 01:55:18 PM
Quote from: starwalt on July 19, 2008, 07:35:30 PM
"None of the GS since 89 have more than one wire (neutral) gear selector."

I have an '06 and it has 3 wires, for neutral and I think second and third. I was thinking of making a gear indicator and bought a GS 450 switch, but now I'm concerned that the other wires must do something, presumably with ignition control, so am reluctant to mess with it.

How do I get what I've written seperate from the quote??

Put your comments after the '[/quote]' at the end of the quoted section. You could also break up the section you are quoting on by cutting it apart with an added section enclosed in separate quote brackets.

There are two wires on the F models from the neutral switch to the igniter module. A third goes to the diode block as in the old school bikes.

The wiring diagram calls it a switch and not position sensor. Anybody got one loose anywhere from an F engine?
-=Doug......   IT ≠ IQ.

God save us from LED turn signal mods!

Get an Ebay GS value  HERE.

1990 GS running, 1990 GS work-in-progress, 1990 basket case.
The trend here is entropy

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