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Who are you voting for, for President?

Started by quiktaco, July 29, 2008, 02:09:57 PM

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Do you regret voting for Obama?

Yes
1 (14.3%)
No
1 (14.3%)
I didn't vote for Obama
5 (71.4%)

Total Members Voted: 7

yamahonkawazuki

Quote from: trumpetguy on October 21, 2008, 03:23:16 PM
Quote from: quiktaco on October 21, 2008, 02:36:07 PM
Felons may also get the right to vote nationwide, while the Fairness Doctrine is likely to be reimposed either by Congress or the Obama FCC. A major goal of the supermajority left would be to shut down talk radio and other voices of political opposition.

Google and MoveOn.org would get "net neutrality" rules, subjecting the Internet to intrusive regulation for the first time.


The Fairness Doctrine ensures that corporate media (who get the use of radio and TV frequencies free of charge) must give equal time to both parties.  Just like deregulation of financial companies led to the credit crisis and financial collapse, deregulation in media (removal of the Fairness Doctrine which USED to be law, and removal of laws governing media ownership) gave rise to huge media companies which own a huge percentage of radio and TV stations, many in the very same market area (can you say monopoly?  I thought you could).  If a station had played four hours of Rush Limbaugh under the fairness doctrine, they would have had to give equal voice to the other side.  Otherwise, those with the money and media ownership control what is spread over the PUBLICLY OWNED airwaves (which is exactly what we have now).


well if you go to a liberal area, the majority of stations are or have liberal bias, likewise non liberal areas. PEOPLE and ratings decide who plays
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spc

I'll vote for whomever will promise to remove anabolic compounds from schedule III.  WAIT, Ron Paul again.  It's funny how one man can make so much sense and the entire uneducated mass can completely ignore him.

yamahonkawazuki

Quote from: spc on October 21, 2008, 07:12:11 PM
I'll vote for whomever will promise to remove anabolic compounds from schedule III.  WAIT, Ron Paul again.  It's funny how one man can make so much sense and the entire uneducated mass can completely ignore him.
for 20+ years. hell have to have congresses help to pull these off. and it aint gonna happen without some kind of "thought revolution", hell i like his ideas as well
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Vielen dank Patrick. Vielen dank
".
A proud Mormon
"if you come in with the bottom of your cast black,
neither one of us will be happy"- Alan Silverman MD

trumpetguy

#663
Quote from: yamahonkawazuki on October 21, 2008, 07:09:04 PM
well you do the same thing  from LW sites so why not lol.  :laugh: :laugh: here have an e-beer ill get the e-popcorn

Whenever I have quoted I have attributed it.  An overwhelming majority of my posts (99%) present my original thought and my words.  If I want to use someone else's words I usually post links so that people can see the source themselves rather than presenting someone else's work as my own.

QT, thanks for the laugh -- describing Cheney's administration as center-right is perhaps the funniest thing you have EVER written.  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:   Torture, wiretapping, suspension of habeas corpus, yeah that's center-right -- for a fascist state!

TrumpetGuy
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frankieG

there is nothing but antidoctal evidence that jesus existed...there is nothing in fact, written or otherwise to say he did.  it is a myth taken from other legends and stories that has been told over the centuries.  i mean really you believe some guy rose from the dead after 3 days?  the BO would be horrible.   if such a man existed in those less than enlightened days he would probably be called a witch or satan and be burned. 
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trumpetguy

Quote from: yamahonkawazuki on October 21, 2008, 07:11:47 PM
well if you go to a liberal area, the majority of stations are or have liberal bias, likewise non liberal areas. PEOPLE and ratings decide who plays

You'd have a VERY hard time proving that based on prgramming.  For example, some of you complain that CNN is liberal, yet their only "personality" shows are conservative -- Glenn Beck, Lou Dobbs, etc.  CNN, of course, is cable only and would not fall under the old Fairness Doctrine (which was broadcast stations). 

But I do not know of any market in which there is a MAJORITY of liberal talk shows.  I don't even know if that is possible, given the number of syndicated shows (liberal vs. conservative).  Corporate media has a vested interest in brainwashing voters to be conservative (which includes the WSJ).
TrumpetGuy
1998 Suzuki GS500E
1982 Suzuki GS1100E
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"Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and not clothed." -- Dwight D. Eisenhower

frankieG

what conservative consider liberal biased by the media is actually intelligent thought....something the right wing neoconservatives no nothing about.
liberal camerican
living in beautiful new port richey florida
i have a beautiful gf(not anymore)
former navy bubble head (JD is our patran saint)

quiktaco

#667
Quote from: trumpetguy on October 22, 2008, 07:03:06 AM
Quote from: yamahonkawazuki on October 21, 2008, 07:11:47 PM
well if you go to a liberal area, the majority of stations are or have liberal bias, likewise non liberal areas. PEOPLE and ratings decide who plays

You'd have a VERY hard time proving that based on prgramming.  For example, some of you complain that CNN is liberal, yet their only "personality" shows are conservative -- Glenn Beck, Lou Dobbs, etc.  CNN, of course, is cable only and would not fall under the old Fairness Doctrine (which was broadcast stations). 

But I do not know of any market in which there is a MAJORITY of liberal talk shows.  I don't even know if that is possible, given the number of syndicated shows (liberal vs. conservative).
(psss....NBC...ABE....CBS...UPN...KCET...hmmm can I think of any more?)

QuoteCorporate media has a vested interest in brainwashing voters to be conservative
Holy Crap, I've never heard anything so funny.  You must be more Socialist than Obama if you think the media is conservative.  The media is so Liberal, it's really scary.  :laugh:

Quotewhat conservative consider liberal biased by the media is actually intelligent thought....something the right wing neoconservatives no nothing about.
what liberals consider conservative biased by normal people, is actually intelligent thought...something the left wing latteliberals no nothing about.  :)

Quotethere is nothing but antidoctal evidence that jesus existed...there is nothing in fact, written or otherwise to say he did.  it is a myth taken from other legends and stories that has been told over the centuries.  i mean really you believe some guy rose from the dead after 3 days?  the BO would be horrible.   if such a man existed in those less than enlightened days he would probably be called a witch or satan and be burned.
(psss....he was crucified.)

QuoteQT, thanks for the laugh -- describing Cheney's administration as center-right is perhaps the funniest thing you have EVER written.  laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh   Torture, wiretapping, suspension of habeas corpus, yeah that's center-right -- for a fascist state!
(psss....that was the link....copy paste copy paste)

QuoteI'll vote for whomever will promise to remove anabolic compounds from schedule III.  WAIT, Ron Paul again.  It's funny how one man can make so much sense and the entire uneducated mass can completely ignore him.
I'm good with that.  Anabolic compounds have no right to be schedule III.  Only thing I could see is be controlled like psudafed.  Just go up to the counter and ask for it.
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Revere2

All of us are "just hangin' out"........................waitin' for the shootin' to start baby........................


that's really about it in a nutshell...................the pendulum has swung far enough left now.........it's time for it to swing
waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to the right. We are patiently waiting. One has to be
patient! :)
They have gun control in Cuba. They have universal health care in Cuba. So why do they want to come here? -Paul Harvey Quote

quiktaco

#669
Quote from: Revere2 on October 22, 2008, 02:53:14 PM
All of us are "just hangin' out"........................waitin' for the shootin' to start baby........................


that's really about it in a nutshell...................the pendulum has swung far enough left now.........it's time for it to swing
waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to the right. We are patiently waiting. One has to be
patient! :)
Yep...I'm pretty much going to be laughing on the 5th of next month.  Either McCain wins (which is looking like an impossibility now), and is going to be one of the funniest moments in my life.  Or Obama wins, and the nation will start to see how bad he's going to destroy the country.  Either way, it's going to be funny.  Hopefully the riots won't be too bad.  I think they'll be worse if Obama looses, but I'm still anticipating some when he wins.

At least, if he does win, he's so far to the left, that people will be scared of that for a while, and the conservative side will be strong for a few terms at least.

Anyone want to go in on a pool for bumper stickers that say "Don't blame me....I didn't vote for the Socialist"

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quiktaco

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yamahonkawazuki

#671
Quote from: trumpetguy on October 22, 2008, 06:43:16 AM
Quote from: yamahonkawazuki on October 21, 2008, 07:09:04 PM
well you do the same thing  from LW sites so why not lol.  :laugh: :laugh: here have an e-beer ill get the e-popcorn

Whenever I have quoted I have attributed it.  An overwhelming majority of my posts (99%) present my original thought and my words.  If I want to use someone else's words I usually post links so that people can see the source themselves rather than presenting someone else's work as my own.

QT, thanks for the laugh -- describing Cheney's administration as center-right is perhaps the funniest thing you have EVER written.  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:   Torture, wiretapping, suspension of habeas corpus, yeah that's center-right -- for a fascist state!


you may think so however like ive said in posts past, ive heard almsot the same thing pretty much verbatim from LW talk shows, and or media sites easy to find out.  :thumb:

also anyone else know that congresses approval ratings are lower than that of the presidents?, funny how that happened AFTER the LW got teh majority as well
Jan 14 2010 0310 I miss you mom
Vielen dank Patrick. Vielen dank
".
A proud Mormon
"if you come in with the bottom of your cast black,
neither one of us will be happy"- Alan Silverman MD

Revere2

Perhaps this article will give some of you insight as well. Especially some democratic socialists/pc liberals but I doubt it. Go here.....


http://www.ldsmag.com/ideas/081017light.html
They have gun control in Cuba. They have universal health care in Cuba. So why do they want to come here? -Paul Harvey Quote

yamahonkawazuki

Quote from: frankieG on October 22, 2008, 07:06:59 AM
what conservative consider liberal biased by the media is actually intelligent thought....something the right wing neoconservatives no nothing about.
thanks for the insult  :mad: :mad: much appreciated. but according to TG there is no liberal bias, so that kinda shoots your thought down Eh? ;)
Jan 14 2010 0310 I miss you mom
Vielen dank Patrick. Vielen dank
".
A proud Mormon
"if you come in with the bottom of your cast black,
neither one of us will be happy"- Alan Silverman MD

quiktaco

Quote from: yamahonkawazuki on October 22, 2008, 07:35:41 PM
also anyone else know that congresses approval ratings are lower than that of the presidents?, funny how that happened AFTER the LW got teh majority as well

Oh so true...it's funny how the liberals blame the president, when he's only 1/3 of the decision making.  A liberal congress is really to blame, but no one is seeing that.
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quiktaco

#675
Commentary about Biden...and transcript...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeSPOomcbZ4 - part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99HNgrPJOPw - part 2

News Report about this...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdZgBJ7YuX0

Does no one care about this?  Biden is outright saying that there will be a huge crisis.  Implying that it will be as big of a crisis as the Cuban Missile Crisis.  Obama will cause something to show that he is strong enough of a leader.  This is bad people....very bad.  We're getting ourselves into something that is going to destroy this nation.
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jserio

i'm going to vote for I love YOU to be president. can't f%$king hurt. no matter how i vote, it doesn't matter. all this campaign bull shaZam! is just that, bullshit. i feel "they" allready know who the president will be. f%$k it all. another beer for my gs twin's buddies.  :cheers:
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jserio

i read somewhere that we are not a true democracy but more of a republic. take this for thought: in a democracy it's majority rules correct? now, take that same thought into a courtroom where a man stands trial. (the crime doesn't matter for the sake of this argument) he is facing the death penalty. now, we have 12 jurors yes? in a true democracy i think we would only need the majority of those jurors to find him guilty. but is this how we do it? no, it is not. all twelve must find him guilty.  lets do the same with everything else eh? the election process, etc. everything. give true power to the people and the individual voice.  :thumb:
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quiktaco

 
Quoteanother beer for my gs twin's buddies.  cheers

:cheers:
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quiktaco

Quote from: jserio on October 23, 2008, 01:28:38 PM
i read somewhere that we are not a true democracy but more of a republic. take this for thought: in a democracy it's majority rules correct? now, take that same thought into a courtroom where a man stands trial. (the crime doesn't matter for the sake of this argument) he is facing the death penalty. now, we have 12 jurors yes? in a true democracy i think we would only need the majority of those jurors to find him guilty. but is this how we do it? no, it is not. all twelve must find him guilty.  lets do the same with everything else eh? the election process, etc. everything. give true power to the people and the individual voice.  :thumb:

Don't know how it would work, but it would be nice.  I guess Libertarianism would be most close to this.  Everyone does what they want as long as it doesn't interfere with others doing what they want.

It's all 12 jurors because if one thinks for some reason that the man could be innocent, then he'd be able to stop him from being put to death unjustly.  Reasonable doubt
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