Who are you voting for, for President?

[yamahonkawazuki]

As for wiretapping - I'm fine with it...why would they wiretap anyone that isn't suspected of something wrong?  It would be a waste of time.
As for torture - I'm fine with it...getting info out of bad guys keeps the bad guys from destroying the world.

You are a piece of work.

The U.S. Constitution guarantees NO search without a warrant.  I already explained one possible motivation for their illegal wiretapping.  How would you feel if President Obama wiretaps American citizens?  The same? Is the Constitution just a piece of paper to you?

Our signature on the Geneva Conventions signifies our agreement NOT to torture.  Instead of remaining honorable, we joined Hitler, Stalin, and other famous torturers throughout history.  And you're OK with this?  I'm not.  By torturing, haven't we BECOME the "bad guys?"  If not, how can you tell us from the "bad guys?"

It must be easy not having to think. 

it WILL happen, the wiretapping, you ll see, and im quite sure,m since its a liberal in power no one will say mcuh. lol. we will still torute, we will still wiretap, and if necessary, god firbid we willstill go to war

[jserio]

we were f%&ked no matter who won this election. thats why i didn't vote for either of them. (obama or mccain)

[yamahonkawazuki]

may i ask for whom?

[jserio]

i voted for bob barr. 

[trumpetguy]

it WILL happen, the wiretapping, you ll see, and im quite sure,m since its a liberal in power no one will say mcuh. lol. we will still torute, we will still wiretap, and if necessary, god firbid we willstill go to war

If wiretapping does happen I will oppose it and I will not be silent.   I expect the torture bill prohibiting even the CIA from torturing to be revived, passed, and signed.

President-Elect Obama gave an awesome speech tonight, a unifying speech.  I could get used to hearing an articulate president!  It's been quite a while...

[jserio]

they are all used car salesmen out to f%$k you with no ky!                       

[spc]

it WILL happen, the wiretapping, you ll see, and im quite sure,m since its a liberal in power no one will say mcuh. lol. we will still torute, we will still wiretap, and if necessary, god firbid we willstill go to war

If wiretapping does happen I will oppose it and I will not be silent.   I expect the torture bill prohibiting even the CIA from torturing to be revived, passed, and signed.

President-Elect Obama gave an awesome speech tonight, a unifying speech.  I could get used to hearing an articulate president!  It's been quite a while...

Just for shits and grins, lets wait till all the votes are actually counted seeing as the media has been calling states in Obama's favor even before counting began.


Ya, know I recall another president who came in to make some 'changes' and put some restrictions on the DOD and the CIA's methods of keeping the American populous safe.  His name was Jackie and it didn't work out all that well for him.  Despite what Obama may think and may have some convinced of, the legislative branch and the White House are not where the buck stops when it comes to national security.  Ask ol' GHW Bush where the buck really stops, or maybe someone who worked in the J Edgar years when the FBI wasn't a bumbling bunch of misfits.

Just to clarify, these are the ten planks of communism.  We are terrifyingly close and under Obama's hand will come much closer.

10 Planks of the Communist Manifesto:
1.Abolition of property in land and application of all rents of land to public purposes. (with the bailout the federal government has bought mortgages.  With the mortgage comes the right to the property)
2.A heavy progressive or graduated income tax. (check)
3.Abolition of all right of inheritance. (Obama's plan for SEIZING 401k's to be managed by the government also calls for the government taking half of what remains upon your death.........abolishing right to inheritance)
4.Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.
5.Centralization of credit in the hands of the State, by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly. (anyone actually been reading the news??)
6.Centralization of the means of communication and transport in the hands of the State. (not yet....yet)
7.Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the State; the bringing into cultivation of waste-lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.
8.Equal liability of all to labour. Establishment of industrial armies, especially for agriculture. (wait everyone should contribute?, yeah O doesn't quite have that much common sense)
9.Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of the distinction between town and country, by a more equable distribution of the population over the country. (anyone see the movie Soylent Green, this was a practice in that movie.  Kubrick was well ahead of his time and behind it all at once)
10.Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children's factory labour in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production. (Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness and free education for all..........or f%$king not)

A great patriot once said "It is the duty of every patriot to protect his country from it's government"  I think true patriotism will shine through in the dissident hearts of those that will be seen as rebels during these trying times.  Our constitution does not allow for 'redistribution of wealth', that phrase is almost directly from a soviet analysis of communism.  We are guaranteed 'Life, Liberty and THE PURSUIT of happiness'.  That framework does not call for the feeding of mouths unwilling to work with the toil and blood of those who have accomplished something.  That framework is not just a suggestion either, it is the most absolute law of the land and yet it seems that not only the general public but much of Washington has forgotten this heritage in the pursuit of socio-communism.  I am saddened that the people of this country are so easily led astray by the wolf in sheep's clothing, but the spirit of Democracy shall prevail AT ALL COSTS.

This I'll defend. 

[yamahonkawazuki]

it WILL happen, the wiretapping, you ll see, and im quite sure,m since its a liberal in power no one will say mcuh. lol. we will still torute, we will still wiretap, and if necessary, god firbid we willstill go to war

If wiretapping does happen I will oppose it and I will not be silent.   I expect the torture bill prohibiting even the CIA from torturing to be revived, passed, and signed.

President-Elect Obama gave an awesome speech tonight, a unifying speech.  I could get used to hearing an articulate president!  It's been quite a while...

Yeha i expect it as well. since there will be NO checks and balances anymore. wihtobama in, and the supermajority., there is no one to stop em.. but terry i agree with you as well. BUT untl/if a legal challenge is brought up regarding obamas legal right to be president. ( if that birth certificate thing materialises, i will make my voice hear din legal channels. if it turns out to be nothing?, then i will not. until then he is the president after jan 20, and i will be the big man, and say congratulations. i am done wiht this thread, i am done wiht anyhitng relating to politics. for now. another thing, i will have to admit, Mccains concession speech was very articulate and respectful to the obamas, and that was very gentlemanly like

[A Non eMouse]

Hey spc...  That guy in your picture was right-wing, but the "yes we can" is left wing.  I think you meant to either have a picture of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Marx or the slogan "Country First" or "Deutschland uber alles," which is really similar to Country First.

You know, I never put that together before.  Germany above all others, Country Before Others, Country First.  Wow.  Good call spc.

[A Non eMouse]

Just for oh my goodnesss and grins, lets wait till all the votes are actually counted seeing as the media has been calling states in Obama's favor even before counting began.

Votes no longer matter, because McCain conceded at 11:15pm.  Even so, Fox News called it Obama at 11:05pm.  And if you think Fox News is liberal biased, then you got issues.

If you really hate socialism and communism, you should be REALLY REALLY mad at our government for the Bail-Out.  You should vow to NOT vote for anyone that was pro Bail-Out.  Then, you should fight to get rid of all those terrible socialist programs we have.  Get rid of interstates, FDIC, SEC, Social Security, Fannie Mae, Unions, weekends, public schools, electricity in rural communities...  In fact, you should fight for every small town to handle all of their own needs, like power generation, sewage treatment, roads, etc.  Even better would be to have each PERSON handle their own sh!t.  You should convince every person in the US to go completely off grid, generate their own power, grow their own food ('cause the federal gov't is the only thing keeping most farms alive, yes, that's socialism), defend their own land, and so on.

If you're against socialism, you should try to keep money where it comes from.  Remove all welfare and unemployment.  You should fight tooth and nail to get rid of all federal taxes and federally funded programs.  So, money from rich "socialist" cities like New York, LA, San Francisco, Seattle, etc should stay there and not fund the rest of the country.

I can only imagine what your non-socialist USA would be like.  There are many states that would simply collapse without our country's thousands of Socialist programs.

[A Non eMouse]

Mccains concession speech was very articulate and respectful to the obamas, and that was very gentlemanly like

I felt bad for him when the crowd kept booing.  He was like, "STFU!  I'm trying to talk here!"    Still a good speech.  Obama's was pretty long, but I liked the part where he said "I'm your president too."  The exact opposite of Bush's "I'm the president of the people that voted for me"

Hopefully all this Dem-Rep sh!t will calm down and we can go back to being Americans that want to help other Americans, rather than some elite group that only wants to help themselves.

[frankieG]

welcome president obama

[yamahonkawazuki]

president-elect hes not president until jan 20. but yeah ill welcome him. tbh ive got no choice. so ill have to live wiht it/deal with it. but hey jan20 hes the new leader

[frankieG]

i am happy that not only the country voted overwhelmingly for obama that both "my" states maine and florida did too.  i did not want to hear "but we insert state" did not vote for him"

[yamahonkawazuki]

i am happy that not only the country voted overwhelmingly for obama that both "my" states maine and florida did too.  i did not want to hear "but we insert state" did not vote for him"

good for him. he gets a cookie 

[bettingpython]

I am pissed about the bail out I said it was the largest and an unprecedented expansion of federal powers and was a mistake, I wrote my congressman and senators and mine listened. Every county in my state overwhelmingly voted for McCain, I have done my part and reamined fairly calm through this whole ordeal. Now we have president panty waist with a socialist agenda. I have seen some other posts gleefully decrying the end of the Bush/Cheney administration, I never knew they were running for a 3rd term. FYI I too am glad Bush is gone, bu tthis radical swing is a bad mistake IMHO 

I feel sorry for every family that has a troop over in the sand box the man who is now president elect is the same man who voted to cut funding thus eliminating means and materials for troops in combat zones. And I feel sorry for the Iraqi people they are going to suffer. And suffer badly by the loss of our presence in that region.

Do we still have bases in germany? how about japan? how long has it been since WWII and we still have a stabilizing military presence in those nations? Sorry gang but like it or not we entered Iraq, pulling out will mean terrible things for them but hey it's okay we never should have been there to begin with.

[frankieG]

i don't think we have a force in vietnam and they seem to be able to take care of themselves. 

[Kasumi]

I think this is fantastic for your country. I don't think it really matters who you have as presidant at the moment. What the country and the world needs is change. The first black presidant of the US is change. No one man (except Bush) would want to drive America into the ground. Whatever Obama has plans for will be an exciting journey and hopefully one that we can praise when it comes to the end of his term. Its also much safer having him as presidant, hes set records and been overwhelmingly supported by the people of your country, many millions who wouldn't normally have voted have come out to vote for him, and hes changed the opinions of states that have spent decades on the other side. With all the people watching him, with him being the first black presidant every move he makes will be closely guarded and he can't put a toe wrong or he will fall. Lets hope he doesn't and actually does something productive and changes America from being a bully into being one of the great countries of the world.

[cafeboy]

The first black presidant of the US is change.

He's not not not not not not not not NOT BLACK

[trumpetguy]

He's black enough that he would have been denied first-class accommodations fifty years ago in much of this country. 

He's black enough that there are still a large number of people in this country who would be outraged if his wife were "white." 

I have trouble understanding your argument.  He is African-American -- get over yourself.