Preventing the upcoming Public Disarmament / "Gun Control"

[frankieG]

wow i bet u got a medal too...oh those a beer tabs.  your posts are full of bile and hate.  for someone who has not been here that long you certainly know how to run your mouth off.  i went back and looked at your posts.  they are arrogant, stupid, racist, and just plain obnoxious.  well not all but many.  you need to calm down and stop with the negativity.  if you feel this "need" to let the people know what is wrong with America do it somewhere else.     we can have decent conversions and disagree..that is America.  but just mellow out a bit and ease up on the name calling ...please 

[Revere2]

OK......deal........."you" "ease up too"........

psst.........Frank, I've been here longer than this forum..........I was on the "old forum".........I have been here since it's inception. I have been here longer than most all of the moderators.
Hugs.

[tussey]

#3 Muslim (Maybe Muslim?Maybe Christian but he has a Muslim Father.)?

Sorry man I stopped reading your post after that line. Anyone that still spews the 'Obama is a muslim we can't trust him' line is well....slightly smarter than retarded.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/muslim.asp

[yamahonkawazuki]

#3 Muslim (Maybe Muslim?Maybe Christian but he has a Muslim Father.)?

Sorry man I stopped reading your post after that line. Anyone that still spews the 'Obama is a muslim we can't trust him' line is well....slightly smarter than retarded.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/muslim.asp

well obama said he is a christian, that for me is good enough. basically saying i wont doubt him. if he is, or if he is not. that is between him and god. and we ALL can get away from tehname calling. we are ALL guilty of it at some point here in this forum

[frankieG]

any religion is just nuts anyhow.  i mean the tooth fairy and Santa Claus are in the same line of folk lore as religion.   i find the armchair quarterback to be silly at best and scary at worst.  they have not served a day in the military or belonged to a party let alone stood up for election. but they spout off their lips like we should give a shaZam! about what they are talking about.  i know serving in the military is not for everyone and the same can be said for those who stand for election.  there are a finite few of us that do both.  i personally find offense to those who's mouth is their largest organ.  they spout falsehoods that they just made up in their heads or with other rednecks with limited intellect and education.    everyone is allowed, by law, to their opinion and so am i.   these same people believe the world or country is heading to disaster so they think by buying firearms they are preparing themselves.  nothing could be farther from the truth.  to ensure this does not happen then you need to get some practical experience.  get involved in politics, you don't have to run in an election but be involved.   it is your country so have a say in how it is run,  i am sure you have allot to offer.  i do believe there will come a time when this country is going to implode. it may not be in 10 years, 100 years or 1000 but it will happen.   i suspect the same couch potato, arm chair athletes we have now will be there then.  doing nothing to help resolve the problem.  but they will be mouthing off believing they have a right to be heard.  if it comes to that i shall see those that do not contribute as a "problem" and they will be dealt with.  all the guns you keep will not save you from a properly trained soldier with a properly trained commander.   i have little respect for those people.

[PuddleJumper]

Wow Frankie. I didn't know that in America, having an opinion was seen as a "problem"
So much for that fundamental right that we are supposed to have.

Are you saying that if someone doesn't agree with you, that you will take them out?

Just want to be clear about what you just said.

BeSafe
PJ

[yamahonkawazuki]

any religion is just nuts anyhow.  i mean the tooth fairy and Santa Claus are in the same line of folk lore as religion.   i find the armchair quarterback to be silly at best and scary at worst.  they have not served a day in the military or belonged to a party let alone stood up for election. but they spout off their lips like we should give a oh my goodness about what they are talking about.  i know serving in the military is not for everyone and the same can be said for those who stand for election.  there are a finite few of us that do both.  i personally find offense to those who's mouth is their largest organ.  they spout falsehoods that they just made up in their heads or with other rednecks with limited intellect and education.    everyone is allowed, by law, to their opinion and so am i.   these same people believe the world or country is heading to disaster so they think by buying firearms they are preparing themselves.  nothing could be farther from the truth.  to ensure this does not happen then you need to get some practical experience.  get involved in politics, you don't have to run in an election but be involved.   it is your country so have a say in how it is run,  i am sure you have allot to offer.  i do believe there will come a time when this country is going to implode. it may not be in 10 years, 100 years or 1000 but it will happen.   i suspect the same couch potato, arm chair athletes we have now will be there then.  doing nothing to help resolve the problem.  but they will be mouthing off believing they have a right to be heard.  if it comes to that i shall see those that do not contribute as a "problem" and they will be dealt with.  all the guns you keep will not save you from a properly trained soldier with a properly trained commander.   i have little respect for those people.

Well frankie, obama hasnt spent a day in teh military either. yet you support him  and now you think anyone with religion, is a redneck with limited intellect or education. Eh? well obama is religious as well. does he fall into that description? you afterall, know all , so it MUST be true. frankie there is no need for the name calling nor the unjust labelling. if you dont agree, then dont aree. no  need for that shaZam! now 

[bikejunkie223]

I think the whole Muslim thing was cleared up when the media noticed he wasn't sticking his face in a rug 5 times a day....I think religion is largely a bunch of swindling organizers that have found a way to convince the teeming masses to give them money, but I don't hold religion against anyone- if somebody wants to believe in Jesus, Buddah, Alah, or any of those others that's fine by me until they start killing people in their name then it's a big effing problem. More people have been killed in the name of God than for any other reason- Hitler was likely the worst guy ever, but far more people, mostly muslim, were killed in the crusades than world war 2- in the name of Jesus.

[Cal76]

I really dont feel brainwashed.  Maybe Im also brainwashed to think im not brainwashed??

I was having a conversation with a guy at school today and I mentioned that I thought that money to help with college loans for doing community service was a good idea.  Well, I was told by this republican friend of mine that educating more people will increase unemployment, increase taxes, and bankrupt the country.  I tried to explain that putting money into education will over time lower to amount of taxes needed for many social programs such as prisons.  Of course their were excuses of why I was wrong to go with every point I made.  It seems like education is getting overlooked as a viable solution to issues.  I am happy to pay more taxes to help education. 

I believe that being against education is nuts.  McCain's entire campaign counted on being able to brainwash people.  Unfortunately for him, it only worked on 43% of the country. 

[yamahonkawazuki]

that is so full of oh my goodness it aint funny. i am not brainwashed, i am educated. etc etc etc, and to beat all im not liberal. one could also say that obamas campaign counted on teh same thing. and he succeeeded. you see how bogus that is? 

[frankieG]

sorry if i got carried away    i am sure our new president will do well.  but he has one hell of a mess to inherit from the worst president ever.  i have subscriptions to Newsweek, time and the wall st journal.  i can barely read them without wanting to cry.  same as watching cable news such as fox, cnn and msnbc, every day there is more bad financial news.   lil george got a country that was in great shape, not just in foreign policy but our economy was strong, growth was strong and everyone was happy and making money.  9/11 changed all that.  in one morning our country and the world changed.  america had support from the whole world with the exception of the few that supported terrorism.  9/11 hit our economy but it rebounded quickly.  we went into Afghanistan with the world behind us and many of our allies on the front line with us.  we were not just avenging what happened to us on 9/11 but we were ridding the world of evil.   but then lil George f%&ked it all up.  he took us into iraq.  then he started lowering taxes and increasing the debt.  why?  we needed that money more than ever to pay for the real war and the "letsmakeupfordaddy" war.   we all remember the "mission accomplished" sign.   not only did he lose the support from our allies that we had from 9/11 but he started and illegal war that we could not afford monetarily and on the world stage.  he kept giving out tax breaks when companies were making record profits.  he let the financial institutions give money willy nilly so people with poor credit could buy homes that were over priced and risked billions in the process.   his solution?  he told us to spend more money.  where is the logic in that? there is none.  the man is a idiot.  he could not run a corporation let alone a country.  no we have a chance to start over again.  a new president, a new party, with new ideas.  willing to do the hard work to mend fences,  make the difficult financial decisions that will cause us to tighten our belts but help the country recover in the long run.  so what do the right wingers say now? they misspell his name to make him look muslim or a terrorist.  they say he is going to increase taxes(well ya how else are we going to get out of this) to pay off lil georgies mistakes.  you are worried about your precious guns.  well i don't even think Obama has gun control on his radar right now.   we all need to work together to get through this.  we just got rid of a president who was a master at making bad choices to divide people.  it is time to come together and recover from lil george...the worst president ever.

[jserio]

post after post, you rant about how bad bush was and what he did wrong. don't forget, during his 8 years in office the senate and house had democratic majority. so you can't say it was all the republican party/bush's fault. they are ALL to blame. of course obama will look great, he won't have anywhere near the party resistance that bush did. no matter what he does, he will look good, for a time anyways. just as no one man is responsible for this mess we are in, no one man can fix it either.

[frankieG]

the democratic majority only came two years ago and push used the veto.   it is bush's fault all of it.  he was a terrible officer who went AWOL, he was a terrible CEO who ruined his company and he is the worst president in american history.  you don't have to believe me history will tell it as it is.

[PuddleJumper]

Frankie, here's the problem.

As a liberal, you are convinced that Bush is the worst thing that ever happened to the USA.

As a conservative, I disagree with you.

You keep saying that we need to come together and work things out. However, you keep insulting the President of the USA.

Maybe he was bad. But I think any man in that position does the best he can. Looking back, it's easy to say where all the mistakes were.

I don't agree with almost all of what President Elect Obama believes in. But I respect him as the new President and hope he does an excellent job.

I guess that's the difference between us. If someone doesn't believe that same as you, you attack on a personal level.

I doubt that if McCain would have won you would have wished him well.

I hope I'm wrong about you, but you past posts lead me to believe that you wouldn't respect the outcome of the election if it had gone the other way.

You are right, it will take both sides working together to get us out of this. But working together means having respect for the beliefs of others even when you don't agree. I don't get the feeling that you respect anyone unless they go along with what you say.

Again, I hope I'm wrong. But the flavor of you posts don't suggest that.



It's ok to argue ideology but the personal stuff has to stop.

BeSafe
PJ

[frankieG]

well put...i agree

[yamahonkawazuki]

Wow, you mean we will ALL try and get along here. even though we will disagree. if thats the case. then im in and e-beers on the house.  err for the house that is. but no e-nookies  , cause that would be kinda E-ghey

[PuddleJumper]

Ok Yama. I'm not sure I understand but I'll go for the E-beers.


I think we can all agree that the past is water under the bridge and although it feels good to point fingers, that doesn't get the job done.

I know some of you don't believe in God, But believe me, I'm praying for my country and for our new President. I hope he does a GREAT job.

Otherwise. we are ALL going to lose in a big way.

BeSafe guys.

PJ

[yamahonkawazuki]

Ok Yama. I'm not sure I understand but I'll go for the E-beers.


I think we can all agree that the past is water under the bridge and although it feels good to point fingers, that doesn't get the job done.

I know some of you don't believe in God, But believe me, I'm praying for my country and for our new President. I hope he does a GREAT job.

Otherwise. we are ALL going to lose in a big way.

BeSafe guys.

PJ

sorry i was p[ulling a buddha. lmao but agreed, i am praying that obama does good. i wish him no bad luck/karma whatsoever. i hope he makes wise decisions,  and does nothign stupid. in short i wish him, andhis veep, and his admin nothign but hte best

[PuddleJumper]

  I wasn't sure about the E-nookie part.