a little email i recieved today. thought i'd share

[mach1]

I go to a church that has gossip, faces and all sorts of crap that should not be their but that has nothing to do with religion I know people who are great christian's they are in the word everyday have their quit time once or twice a day and do their best to show gods light through them, they dont force anything unless asked they dont pray out loud they just bow their head and close their eyes. as christians we are not supposed to boast our faith by praying out loud and things like that our relationship between our god is between us and him. our job as chrisitans are to spread the word build relationships with non beleavers and show them the light. we are to meet them on their level and show them we are not above them. I have friends that a budist and we talk religion all the time. bottom line is school is for learning nothing else people can pray at luch or read their bible and form a bible study with others but they dont need to point attention to their selves.

[trumpetguy]

+1,000,000

Youdaman, mach1!

[yamahonkawazuki]

MACH you summed it all up , very nicely written sir. very nicely writen. now its weird, its this post, and one written by TG that i agree wiht 110%. and that has never happened   

[oramac]

Public schools DO promote morals.  Have you been in one lately?  Read the signs on the walls and listen to the teachers.  I cannot speak for every public school but most promote responsibility, tolerance, sensitivity, etc.  I am involved in education (I teach future teachers) and I am in schools every week.  I see it!

Yes, I've been in one.  I am a teacher in one Indiana's largest public high schools (a member of the Metropolitan Interscholastic Conference).  I know exactly how morals are promoted by teachers, because I am one of them.  I too teach future teachers, and I am a certified mentor teacher for novice educators.  I also know that the legally required pledge of allegiance and moment of silence that starts each day is optional for students and faculty.  And, I know that every teacher that I know that promotes good moral values is a person of faith, though our religions vary.  The kids generally don't know our faith because there is a separation of church and state.  That is fine.  But the fact remains that the good morals taught in school, more often than not, are taught because of the faith of teachers. 

As a matter of fact, it is because I teach that I make my statements about morals.  I see the validation of the statements I've made based on my interaction with students over the past 10 years, knowing their personalities, and knowing the backgrounds from which they've developed. 

[LOUiE]

i went to a public school... i remember morals being taught.  Not as much in highschool, but in grade school, sure.  In highschool my experiences with teachers were they were just content keeping kids from being troublemakers rather than influencing them positively.  Many kids (druggies boozers bullies, or kids who just had a tough time with social pressures) recieved very little to no positive influencing from teachers  Of the teachers, I saw as a role model, they were religious.  Most religions focus on treating each other with respect, being full of integrity, and raising up healthy responsible kids.  Its no wonder these teachers are the most influencial.

Grade school, on the other hand, was all about growing kids up to be part of a functioning society and to encourage their gifts... but as soon as HS comes around... it felt like there was nothing.


justa  little side note...

I don't get why religious people opt to send their kids to religious schools.  I undersstand in most cases they want there kids to live and breathe their beliefs, but its not teaching them to be believe and live in the real world. 

[mach1]

the thing i don't get about going to religious schools is your huddled around your kind no one to save no real way to test your faith. as a Christian I'm not supposed to be stuck in a group full of Christians. in that group who live are you saving? I think a non believer would much rather have a one on one than a group of nuts shoving stuff in his/her face.  sorry for the rant I'm just tired of people and churches giving my religion a bad name.

[trumpetguy]

i just ask, that you respect my views, and ill respect yours. deal?

Yama, I'm at a convention in Seattle so my read/reply time has been limited.

I absolutely respect your views, and I hope you don't think I have disrespected them.  I'm often blunt, but I hope not disrespectful.

[yamahonkawazuki]

i just ask, that you respect my views, and ill respect yours. deal?

Yama, I'm at a convention in Seattle so my read/reply time has been limited.

I absolutely respect your views, and I hope you don't think I have disrespected them.  I'm often blunt, but I hope not disrespectful.

Oh not at all man, blunt perhaps, but hey im a smart ass so were all good