does this sound like a broken crankshaft(Fixed)

[mach1]

So I was having trouble starting my bike I hit the start button and I just hear a spinning sound I remove the starter and bench test it and its good, I reinstall the starter and remove the left side cover and use a remote starter to give the starter power it spins both gears along with the stator, I looked inside the intake ports to see if the valves move when turning over and they dont move. what could this be besides a broken crank?

[fred]

Broken timing chain?

[mach1]

I was thinking that to. where is the timing chain? Im looking on bikebandit to find the location but feel free to post.

[GeeP]

I don't have my manual at the moment, but I believe the starter gear is retained on the crankshaft with a key.  It is possible the key has sheared or the stator bolt has come loose.  

Remove the right side cover and check to see if the crankshaft is turning.  If it is, your problem is probably a snapped cam chain.

[mach1]

ill do that right now and get back to you.

[mach1]

Im not sure am I supposed to remove the whole cover I just removerd the suzuki cover nothing spins, I also removed the dipstick and looked inside while cranking and nothing moves. Do I need to remove the whole cover?

[mach1]

ok I got a 10mm socket and turned the bolt that holdes on the ingition rotor and when I spin in by hand both the internals and the left sprocket and stator spins when I retry to spin the internals with the remote starter the right side and internals wont move, also when I spun the engine by hand I heard air rushing out but the valves did not move

[fred]

To check your timing chain, just take the tank off then open up the valve cover, you should see the chain going to each of the cam shafts and turning them... It is pretty simple and you can watch the first bit of Kerry's valve adjustment video to see it done.

[mach1]

GEEP nailed it I checked the timing chain and its good I underlined the problem, I just dont know how it came loose like that does anyone know the torque spec for that bolt that hold the stator on?
I don't have my manual at the moment, but I believe the starter gear is retained on the crankshaft with a key.  It is possible the key has sheared or the stator bolt has come loose. 

Remove the right side cover and check to see if the crankshaft is turning.  If it is, your problem is probably a snapped cam chain.

[GeeP]

Sounds good Mach.  That's a fairly common problem, it seems.  I don't remember if that gear has a key, so I would be inclined to pull the stator and inspect the gear and shaft.

If all is well, replace that bolt with new and install it with loctite!  I've heard that bolt has a habit of breaking as well.

[mach1]

I added loctite and torqued it down to 25ft thats what I can find as a number. atleast now If it happenes again I know what it is.

oh and thanks both of you guys for a quick response. Im taking the carbs to work and am going to clean them and I have to close a hole with epoxy I think fuel was leaking, I guess the guy that serviced the carbs removed the wrong brass plug and never fixed it.

[steezin_and_wheezin]

BUMP!

love it when i find a thread with a problem that's been identified and OP posts back on a solution!!

this sounds exactly what's happening on the broke down 06 i just bought. thanks to GeeP and mach1 for some great info