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Started by qwertydude, March 10, 2009, 10:53:58 PM

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fred

Quote from: platinum_black on March 13, 2009, 06:45:32 PM
with HID's the K within the rating is the Kelvin rating, now this is where people end up getting confused, yes kelvin is a measurement of temperature but in this case its a measurement of the colour temperature of the light, not the temperature that the bulb reaches, no matter what the rating is be it a 5000k or a 12000k the only difference between the two of these bulbs is the colour of the light not the physical temperature as they will both run at exactly the same tempratures. Basicaly if you look at physics they start to talk about the colour of light that is associated with the black body radiation of an object at that temperature in degrees Kelvin. For reference, the sun is about 6000 Kelvin and can roughly be treated as a black body.

Well, when it comes to temperature (i.e., hotness or coldness), Kelvin temperature = Celsius temperature + 273.15. So 4300K = 4026.85 degrees Celsius, safe to say a 4300K bulb aint burning at 4026.85 degrees Celsius lol. ok geek mode over lol.


But from an H4 to an HID, the HID will run cooler overall.

I hope this makes sense, if not just tell me to shut the hell up lol

Yeah, if color temperature were the same as operating temperature, you'd have problems... The surface of the sun is only 5780K...

platinum_black

Quote from: fred on March 14, 2009, 01:24:00 PM

Yeah, if color temperature were the same as operating temperature, you'd have problems... The surface of the sun is only 5780K...

lol yeah we would end u p heating the sun rather than vice-versa  :laugh:

allaussiegrown

Quote from: platinum_black on March 13, 2009, 06:45:32 PM
with HID's the K within the rating is the Kelvin rating, now this is where people end up getting confused, yes kelvin is a measurement of temperature but in this case its a measurement of the colour temperature of the light, not the temperature that the bulb reaches, no matter what the rating is be it a 5000k or a 12000k the only difference between the two of these bulbs is the colour of the light not the physical temperature as they will both run at exactly the same tempratures. Basicaly if you look at physics they start to talk about the colour of light that is associated with the black body radiation of an object at that temperature in degrees Kelvin. For reference, the sun is about 6000 Kelvin and can roughly be treated as a black body.

Well, when it comes to temperature (i.e., hotness or coldness), Kelvin temperature = Celsius temperature + 273.15. So 4300K = 4026.85 degrees Celsius, safe to say a 4300K bulb aint burning at 4026.85 degrees Celsius lol. ok geek mode over lol.


But from an H4 to an HID, the HID will run cooler overall.

I hope this makes sense, if not just tell me to shut the hell up lol

I understood, 0 Kelvin = - 375 Celcius  (Absolute Zero). As celcius is based upon water 0 is its freezing point and 100 being is boiling point kelvin is much easier to understand with HID's  :D1
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platinum_black

glad it made sense to atleast one person lol

allaussiegrown

would you be able to take a picture of it on HI and LO Beam on a dark street at night to see the effects? Would be greatly appreciated :)
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Quote from: allaussiegrown on March 14, 2009, 05:48:24 PM


I understood, 0 Kelvin = - 375 Celcius  (Absolute Zero). As celcius is based upon water 0 is its freezing point and 100 being is boiling point kelvin is much easier to understand with HID's  :D1

273 ??? or nowadays with the global warming we have made it to 375  ;)
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efushi

I'd ordered a pair of the 35w HIDs from the ebay seller you linked. Mine also shipped from China and showed up surprisingly fast, so thats good.  Anyways. From what I've read in this thread, it isnt a simple plug and play obviously.  You said you had to modify:

1. the metal shield to fit.
2. extend the power and ground wires.

I'm very not electrically inclined, but will have someone who's installed car HIDs help me.  Can you give me any help on how exactly to do the mods to make this work without blinding everyone?

(I could have just pm'd you but I decided to revive the thread so any info would be up for others to see and hopefully other gstwinners will try the mod too  8) )
'07 F model, stock except for aesthetics

Bluehaze

ordered mine as well.  hope it all goes well.. my poor battery.. good thing i have the battery tender jr. 
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qwertydude

Everyone who's got them installed should talk about them on this thread too, also post beamshots if you don't get a clean cutoff, cause then you did something wrong.

ohgood

Quote from: qwertydude on March 21, 2009, 11:37:51 PM
Everyone who's got them installed should talk about them on this thread too, also post beamshots if you don't get a clean cutoff, cause then you did something wrong.

still waiting for that part....


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efushi

I got mine installed, and I dont have any beamshots yet, probably wont be able to get it til the weekend. 

A few remarks on my install so far.

The kit is bright, obviously as it should be.
The cut off is pretty good actually, as far as parallel to ground level.
The problem with mine is that I have glaring light coming out around the sides, which is a problem for oncoming traffic.  :nono:

I may not have correctly shrunk the metal reflector or something.
I still have one more try on the spare, and if it doesnt work, I may end up just blocking part of the headlights with some dark tint.

good luck to all who try this mod, pics will hopefully come in a  week
'07 F model, stock except for aesthetics

Bluehaze

i just installed on mine.   The  number 1 biggest problem i had with this setup is shrinking the bulb head..  That took at least 2 hours of just consistent squeezing and using the dremel. There is not even any way for me to tell you how i did it.. i just kept squeezing side and bending some and finally got it in.  That is the hard part and the only hard part.. the wiring was a breeze.

overall this is a great mod.  It is scary when trying to fanangle that bulb head into that hole.. just cause you think you may be messing it up..but you just have to keep trying.. at some point i was ready to freaking throw this thing away. i dremeled on about 5 spots..  3 on the bulb head area and 2 on the flat side..  Then i ended up screwing the thing from the inside instead of the outside where it was orginally screwed from.

Well that was my way of getting that baby in there..... 

now that it is in..i am way way happy with it.
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efushi

Yea the hard part is definitely shrinking the bulb, but I did get mine in there, my beam pattern has a nice cutoff in the center to the top, but disperses on the sides though.

How is yours bluehaze, and did u keep trying to shrink it slowly just to get it to fit in while being as big as possible?
'07 F model, stock except for aesthetics

Bluehaze

I tried the slow and easy in the beggining.. at about 1 hour into it.. i said  @#$!@ this and just started doing what i can to shrink the sucker to size..  i am definitely getting that light escape on the side..  i also have a very distinc line for low beam.. so i am good there.. just that on the side people driving toward me can get blinded.. i need to do something about that as well.. it may be the bulb thing needs a bit of resizing.  As i am writing this..i am have a blind spot from looking at that freaking bulb.  :technical:
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average

Quote from: Jenya on March 13, 2009, 03:50:28 PM
About the old style round headlights:
Is there a way to put a non-faceted glass into a one? Anybody sells such thing?

Jenya
You could swap to the SV plastic lens.
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caliswangin916



i bought a kit with these helligkeit ballasts and right out of the box, one of them had a constant flicker. the other one worked for almost a year and died last month. i opened one of them up and there was condensation inside and corrosion. they are not built well but are very cheap in price and quality. one of the bulbs also went out a few months ago.
i had an older kit before these with the same style ballasts but were made much better and lasted me almost 2 years. i recently bought a slim kit that so far works fine. just minor flicker every once in a while.

you really do get what you pay for on the ballasts and ebay often prices these kits accordingly.

i would recomend an h4 bulb on ebay that has the high beam as a separate halogen. it looked a little big so i never went into HID. i would recomend that style of bulb if you can find it so that just in case the ballast or hid bulb dies while at night, you'll still have a halogen highbeam to flip on in case of emergency. i would not be happy at all if both my beams weren't available all of a sudden while i'm going highway speeds in the dark. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2-Bulb-HID-Xenon-H4-2-Low-Xenon-High-Halogen-10000K_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ66Q3a2Q7c65Q3a3Q7c39Q3a1Q7c240Q3a1318QQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem110356292093QQitemZ110356292093QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories

or even these that have dual bulbs. but if you're ballast dies, you're sol. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/BI-XENON-HID-bulbs-H4-H13-9004-9007-Dual-Beam-50W-55W_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ66Q3a2Q7c65Q3a3Q7c39Q3a1Q7c240Q3a1318QQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem140305888201QQitemZ140305888201QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories

allaussiegrown

is there a difference between H4 and 9003 bulbs?
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Kanatuna rear wheel swap
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s0crates82

I'm going to be installing mine this weekend, and I'm a lil stymied as to how I'm going to get the shield through the hole without dremeling the headlight.
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Bluehaze

i wouldnt mess with the headlight hole itself.  it will put debris inside your headlight that would be a pain to get out.   the best way i can think of is to resize the bulb head. very hard to do.. just fyi.
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