my work mac

[natedawg120]

just f%&ked me, in the ass, with no lube.  Oh yeah and its a mini, so i will have to break out the putty knife of doom to replace the HDD.  At least its not an imac, then i would have to break out the toilet plunger of doom

[abnoea]

I work on apples for my highschool and have learned to hate apple from an administrative standpoint because they make it far more difficult than need be to replace something as simple and common as a hdd. =(

[natedawg120]

agreed.  Oh but don't worry its not the apple approved plastic breaky shim tool, its the used for everything wide enough putty knife of f%$k you apple for attempting to make people buy everything from you

The bad thing is that I don't really even like macs.  I just need one cause half the faculty love their Mac, be it old as Jesus and running OS 8.*** or new and has 10.5 big kitty, but don't worry big snow kitty is comming to save you all   

[spc]

Big snow kitty has been *coming* since last freakin summer and now there are rumors of yet another iPhone before we get a new OS.   Jesus, just deregulate all the little bureaucratic BS on the SDK and the phone's potential will jump years ahead.  3.0 is supposed to get rid of some of it, but I doubt they'll do what really needs to be done.   Still love my phone and laptop way more than any blackberry or pc.

[tussey]

hahah still waiting on that stupid copy/paste? I'm getting the Android G2 when it comes out.


http://phandroid.com/2009/02/20/htc-magic-t-mobile-g2/
http://www.betanews.com/article/HTC-rolls-out-Magic-the-worlds-second-Android-phone/1234901445

[natedawg120]

yeah iPhone is pretty sweet but AT&T is a horrible provider in my area, like if you sneeze and fall over on the shoulder of a main road and roll into the grass you loose signal.  Thus the iPhone is not an option for me.  

more specific reasons i wouldn't by a mac:
1. upgrade possibilities limited
2. replacement parts are mined from the center of the earth and priced as such
3. initial price
4. now you need to get ... from apple for ... to work [ex:mini-DVI, mini-Displayport]
5. lets make everything proprietary [see 4]
6. left and right click would be nice, and the mighty mouse blows.

I will stop there.  Of all the mac products i could see myself maybe getting a macbook pro or a mackbook.  The only things i would upgrade would be ram and that is easy in them.  Laptops are a pain no matter the brand for the most part.

[ohgood]

just f%$ked me, in the ass, with no lube.  Oh yeah and its a mini, so i will have to break out the putty knife of doom to replace the HDD.  At least its not an imac, then i would have to break out the toilet plunger of doom

you have your backups, right ? i mean, replacing a harddrive isn't a terrible ordeal, even on an old mac laptop.

i didn't know administrators hated mac os. that's a new one on me

after taking one of my old crappy g4's to work, the owner's son rolled his eyes and said "It just works, right ?" to which i replied; "Hey, I see you finally got your webserver working again, along with the VPN......oh, wait, it's down again, nevermind."

he refreshed his link and sure nuff it was dead.

call me when windows sucks 90% less than apple, and apple sucks 10% less than it does now.

[ohgood]

yeah iPhone is pretty sweet but AT&T is a horrible provider in my area, like if you sneeze and fall over on the shoulder of a main road and roll into the grass you loose signal.  Thus the iPhone is not an option for me.  

more specific reasons i wouldn't by a mac:
1. upgrade possibilities limited
2. replacement parts are mined from the center of the earth and priced as such
3. initial price
4. now you need to get ... from apple for ... to work [ex:mini-DVI, mini-Displayport]
5. lets make everything proprietary [see 4]
6. left and right click would be nice, and the mighty mouse blows.

I will stop there.  Of all the mac products i could see myself maybe getting a macbook pro or a mackbook.  The only things i would upgrade would be ram and that is easy in them.  Laptops are a pain no matter the brand for the most part.

it could be worse. it could be a Sony that requires (now unavailable) hardware dongles to do things like (the horror!) syncing your phone to your music playlists, DRM for ringtones, and locking you into DRM'd themes/schemes.

our apples work nicely. they're all laptops, all old, and all run the most current version of softwares available (minus picasa for mac, as it's intel only).

my next apple will be a non-apple netbook (prolly a acer inspire or similar) with mac os installed. it's really amazing the hardware you can get in a small package for a incredible price of $240 or so. innnnnncredible.

i like small laptops, as they don't weigh a ton, hold just as much crap, and are cheap as hell to replace if/when they die. if/when my 12" mac dies, i'll really miss the keyboard, but consider the OS the best part of it. using the same install for almost 4 years now with no issues. sure, i deleted /etc once while doing other things, but backup disk images on external harddrives (and TargetDisk mode) saved the day.

backing up is simple (rsync), imaging is simple ( dd ), and ssh does things that should cost millions, but it's free.

i can't complain much about it, and am happy to be lost on anything with C:\ involved anymore

[yamahonkawazuki]

Build a hackintosh if need be

[natedawg120]

Ohgood, i do have a backup but i was working with windows disk image files at the time the the HDD exploded, and it corrupted one of my work in process images, luckily not my only copy as i am a backup freak.  It was awesome one minute everything is great and the next finder is fubar, ichat is freaking out, i couldn't force quit anything then wham black screen of doom and restart to sad mac, really question mark folder but sad mac was funnier.

And yeah it could be worse, but you listed off a couple good reasons as to why i have never owned a sony either, not to mention their laptops are a bear to take apart too.  In fact the only laptop i have ever actually purchased myself was an IBM, and it is still going strong somehow and it is around if not over 5 years old - the wife still loves it

[bettingpython]

Big Blue baby Big blue all the way, course I am a little biased since working on big blue pays the bills. IBM OS400 is the shizniz....it's the original it just works...LOL.

[VSG]

I work on apples for my highschool and have learned to hate apple from an administrative standpoint because they make it far more difficult than need be to replace something as simple and common as a hdd. =(

For what it's worth, in the Mac Pro Desktops it's incredibly easy to replace or add an internal hard drive.  No tools required.  But yea, the laptops and imacs it's a pain.  I've been a mac user (and fan) for a long time, but I hate how they do that.  Same with the non-removable batteries in some of their stuff.

[abnoea]

Oh, I agree that the Mac Pro desktops are nice. They're the only thing I would ever consider owning out of the apple product line.

[spc]

With snow kitty supposedly coming out this summer and multiple promises of innovative new hardware this year I wouldn't be surprised to see a new mac pro coming out to take advantage of snow kitty's support for up to 16tb ram.

[Canonball]

apple mouse has left and right click, you have to go into settings and turn right click on. macs also have copy paste....instead of control+C/V its command+C/V. i don't know a whole lot about upgrades on macs and PC's but i think they're great computers and MUCH easier to use than a windows based PC.

[yamahonkawazuki]

remember if you must mac. hell go "hackintosh" easy to do and FAR cheaper build a pc and laod mac os onto it aka the hackintosh ( ive built many of them )

[Canonball]

that makes sense, the big difference between mac and PC is the operating system......and mac computers and parts come from and are built in the same place...unlike pc which parts come from all over and are built who knows where

[ohgood]

that makes sense, the big difference between mac and PC is the operating system......and mac computers and parts come from and are built in the same place...unlike pc which parts come from all over and are built who knows where

well, one of the positives for macs is the chips are usually the same from the beginning to the end of a product cycle. i'm not saying they -never- change a chipset, but the hardware is more easily defined than with some pc makers.

ya, if/when i upgrade to a laptop that can handle 2Gb+ of ram, it will be hackintosh. and tiny. tiny tiny tiny.

[jdanna]

you learn to really hate apple when you get stuck having to use a toy final cut pro machine instead of a real edit system, because they only cost like $20.

you get what you pay for.

[Rema1000]

just f%$ked me, in the ass, with no lube.  Oh yeah and its a mini, so i will have to break out the putty knife of doom to replace the HDD.  At least its not an imac, then i would have to break out the toilet plunger of doom

If it's got a firewire port, why bother?  Just plug a firewire drive in, and restore to it or install to it, and set as boot drive.   There's nothing magic about the internal firewire connection, and the HDD in the mini is not high-performance anyways.