The Hawaiian Shirt Wearer's Club of America

[spc]

Anyone else a member?  BP, you a fan of the shoulder rig.Hawaiian shirt or do you go IWB?

[bettingpython]

Yes I am a  hawaiian wearer. I carry strongside hip at 3 to 3:30, I don't like shoulder holsters. Presenting a weapon to the front butt forward makes me a little nervous since if the confrontation starts physical it gives the BG control of the butt of your weapon if they just reach out and grab it. From a wepon retention standpoint strong side hip IWB is the best way to go allowing any potential BG only one point of contact. I also carry owb it's also the fastest draw stroke another failing of the shoulder holster slow to draw, don't carry kydex owb though carry leather only kydex breaks especially if your BG can get 2 points of control and twist.

I have sewn a couple of large stainless steel washers into the front corners of my hawaiian shirt tails to weight the corners when I go to clear the shirt it makes it swing back better and provides some resistance to wind blowing the shirt open.

I'm waiting on the IWB rig from rafter S gunleather I ordered for my full size at the last gun show but I carry para P10 in one and it's a nice carry rig. 

FYI the reason I wear hawiian shirts even IWB is beacuse it also conceals a double mag carrier with 2 spare mags and a tac light as well as a straight blade knife. 

[utgunslinger13]

lol wtf?  are you speaking english? lol

[bettingpython]

certain cognoscenti  would understand the language contained within this post, it is most certainly english specifically red blooded second amendment american.

Terry is referring to the wearing of Haiwaiian print camp shirts as cover garments in realtion to concealed carry of weapons and the multiple methods of their carry. 

[Porkchop]

I too am an Hawiian shirt wearer.

I have sewn a couple of large stainless steel washers into the front corners of my hawaiian shirt tails to weight the corners when I go to clear the shirt it makes it swing back better and provides some resistance to wind blowing the shirt open.

Do the washers make noise if they bush against something or do you sew them into a seam edge so that the fabric muffles any contact?

[bettingpython]

Sew em into the seam edges.

[utgunslinger13]

hahah I first read this and wondered if there was in fact a club of people who wear hawaiian print shirts!

[LOUiE]

BG = Bad Guy?  yes? no?     

i'm on to you!!!

[cstilt]

You got it LOUiE!

[spc]

I like the shoulder holster style, with my build and a well thought out wardrobe I can very easily conceal a full frame 1911.  I just ordered a 5.11 holster shirt from the NRA store (got a discount in the mail) and while I don't expect it to be perfect for the 1911, I've heard great things about it with the Glock 36 I'll most likely be buying VERY soon. 

I picked up 100rds of .45 this evening.  Tried to pick up 400rds, but the owner was there and didn't want to sell more than 100 to any individual, the employee that rung me up told me to come back in the morning and pay in cash and I could buy as much as I want.  I may drop the hammer on the 36 when I go back.

[bombadillo]

Ha, hang out on more gun related forums and you'll understand every word they speak of.  It'd be like me on a linux forum.   

[spc]

A local tourist trap shop was clearing old stock out so I bought 4 generic Hawaiian shirts.  Now I just have to figure out which button will work best to snip off and sew on the outside flap.

[bettingpython]

Ammo is getting ridiculous around here private individuals and pawn shops are buying it up in bulk when it hits the retailers shelves then turn around ands sell it for an excessive premium I'm all for free market but oppurtunistic gouging is ridiculous the last thing we want is the fed getting involved in price controls. I just ordered 1500 rounds of .22lr so when we go camping next month we'll have ammo for the plinkers. I haven't been able to find any reasonable .22 here for 2 months now. Local guy on a shooters forum bought his kid a rifle for christmas, the kid was gonna spend $75 of his saved allowance to buy 300 rounds of .22... all of us locally broke into our stashes and sold him a brick at cost for like $25, Anyone one with a kid or grandkid locally can pick up 100 rounds off of me for my cost is what I've posted it's insane you can't take your kid shooting because the store doesn't have any .22 on the shelf.

I scoreed a sweetheart deal on some .45 brass 1000 rounds once fired for $25 now if I can find large pistol primers I would be good to go. Gonna take about 1K with me camping so I can work on dynamic movement and shooting and draw and shoot from concealment. Most of our ranges are FUD run and have a 3 second between shots rule and no shooting on the draw...etc.. and the range we do have that does allow that is way beyond my price range.

As far as the shoulder rig, you need to get an airsoft and do some real force on force rolling around/simmunition training with your carry gear to evaluate your carry decision. Even wrapped up I can still makle a strong side draw under most circumstances where you can't reach crossbody. Shoulder holsters look cool thats about it. And I conceal a fullsize on the strongside all the time.

[bettingpython]

A local tourist trap shop was clearing old stock out so I bought 4 generic Hawaiian shirts.  Now I just have to figure out which button will work best to snip off and sew on the outside flap.

Gonna do the velcro attachment I take it? My wife found me some locally got em for my bday back in march then I ebayed 1/2 a dozen for $35 really nice linen jobbers too.

[spc]

Yup, I went into Michaels (shudder) and picked up some velcro today.  I've got a few Haagar prep shirts that make me look like I should be driving a BMW that I'll probably modify too, they're pretty poofy so should be OK for CC.

I'm really interested to see how this 5.11 shirt works out.  I'm thinking I'll either be incredibly pleased or hate it, can't see a real middle ground.

[spc]

The club I joined is pretty laid back, just don't endanger anyone and you're good to go.  I was getting a pretty mean little double tap going at one point.  I love the place.  A standard 25yd pistol range, a tactical range, a 100-200-300 rifle range, a skeet range, a go kart track, a fully stocked pond, large stone grill, plenty of room to camp.
.22 and .22lr is EVERYWHERE HERE (my local WM has 1000+ of both), as is almost every rifle round except .223.

I've done some drills with a shoulder holster and my next most natural carry is a drop leg which is out of the question, we aren't an open carry state. I've just never been comfortable with an IWB or OWB, belly/back holster are absolutely ridiculous and an ankle holster works but adds an unnecessary and potentially dangerous step.  I really wish we would just go to open carry (there's a bill before the state legislature to allow it right now) so I could break out my black hawk drop leg.  If I'm that close, the gun isn't going to be my first choice, it would most likely be the razor sharp spyderco in my pocket. Being that close to me is a pretty big danger zone, you're much safer at punching distance.  My punches suck, but if I can get a hold of something solid I can rip it off.

[bettingpython]

Glad you don't like the SOB carry, 1 slip and fall and you have back trouble or paralysis for life that way. Tulsa County alchohol beverage licensing enforcement agents are sworn law enforcement and can carry if they qualify. I know of one who like a dumbass drove 1/2 way across the state with a j-frame revolver in a SOB hoster and 5 years later he still had major back problems.

[bettingpython]

Is that it? Are we the only 3 Spc, Porkchop and I??

[spc]

I think so, 

Hey BP, what's your washing machine think of those washers sewn in?  UPS says I'll have my package Friday, just in time to hit the range this Saturday and get used to it.

Picked up another 200rds of .45 at Mission Essential in Hinesville.  They have some GREAT prices so I'm going to end up buying my G36 there.  515+tax brand new.

[PuddleJumper]

Looks like just you three carry. But I'm reading.

Thinking of getting a permit. Just don't have time ATM.

BeSafe