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Started by Bluehaze, July 25, 2009, 10:18:11 AM

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Bluehaze

for those that take this gs to track.  what sprocket settings do you have?

right now i have 14t and stock rear.   This actually allows me to stay at 3rd on turns going about 70-75mph on sweeping turns with still a 3-4k left before hitting redline... then when i switch to fourth..it seems to drop to 6k rpm which is not in the power range .. for my gs i think its around 7-9k.   

is there a better setup in the rear sprocket that would allow me to be around 70-80 on sweeping turns on 3rd then switch to 4th that would be 7k start as oppose to 6k?

2008 GS500F Modification: Fenderectomy. Additional LED Brake Lights. Blue Underlighting Kit. Grills on the Fairing. K&N Drop in Filter. Laser Deeptone 2-1 Exhaust. DynoJet Kit. Rear Kellerman Turn Signal. 14T sprocket. Carbon Fiber Race pegs. SM2 handlebar. 06 R6 Rear Suspension.

ecpreston

#1
I actually like the stock gearing  :dunno_white:  I never have a problem finding power when I need it (unless I accidentally get into the wrong gear or forget to shift!)

ineedanap

#2
you already have pretty low gearing with the 14 tooth.  To raise the rpms up from 6k to 7k at a given speed would require an even lower gear.  If you go even lower you might not like what you find.  

I'm with ecpreston on this one.  I can always find power when I need it.  I run a 15/43 which is basically your 14/39 but didn't mind the stock gearing either.  

It sounds to me like you're worrying too much about your rpms going too high.  It's making your shifts too early and causing the rpms to go too low.  

If it was me, I'd worry much less about staying between the 7-9k rpm range you're trying to keep the bike in.  If you're not satisfied with the power at 6k rpm then basically do whatever it takes to make your next shift end up at 7k rpm.  If it means holding some gears to 10k, so what.  The bike is still making lots of power at 10k.   It's not going to hurt the bike and since you won't be bogged down at 6k with your next shift you'll be faster overall.  Just keep it out of the red.  
My 90 GS500E has spread itself across the nation.

coll0412

Gearing depends on the track.

For the 1 mile long straight at BIR I run a 16-37 combo, and still bounce of the rev limiter tipping it into Turn 1
CRA #220

ecpreston

Quote from: coll0412 on July 29, 2009, 09:39:21 PMFor the 1 mile long straight at BIR I run a 16-37 combo, and still bounce of the rev limiter tipping it into Turn 1

We have rev limiters? I wouldn't consider valve float a rev limiter... though, it kind of is.....   :icon_razz:

Bluehaze

thanks for your input. i will keep that in mind.  thanks again.
2008 GS500F Modification: Fenderectomy. Additional LED Brake Lights. Blue Underlighting Kit. Grills on the Fairing. K&N Drop in Filter. Laser Deeptone 2-1 Exhaust. DynoJet Kit. Rear Kellerman Turn Signal. 14T sprocket. Carbon Fiber Race pegs. SM2 handlebar. 06 R6 Rear Suspension.

coll0412

I have a rev-limiter on mine, Dynatek DRL-400 two stage limiter

CRA #220

werase643

wring the living piss out of the bike :icon_twisted:
shift at 11k
take the damn speedo off the bike (it just messes with your mind)

WFO is the only way to get around the track
you need to be WFO or hard on the brakes
or you are wasting time

take your skirt off and put on some leathers :icon_lol:
want Iain's money to support my butt in kens shop

GSnoober

Hey Bluehaze, I have a question about your GS:

Did you ever rejet the carbs? If not, you're running the risk of burning your exhaust valves (or a LOT worse); I don't see it mentioned in the list of mods you've made:

"2008 GS500F Modification: Fenderectomy. Additional LED Brake Lights. Blue Underlighting Kit. Grills on the Fairing. K&N Drop in Filter. Laser Deeptone 2-1 Exhaust. Rear Kellerman Turn Signal. 14T sprocket. Carbon Fiber Race pegs. SM2 handlebar."

Nothing about rejetting; did you not mention it, or not get it done yet?

Fill us in, OK?

Bluehaze

yea i bought the dyno jet kit. some  mechanic charged me 250 plus to get it in. i have no idea what he did.. i was really really new when i got my bike rejetted. i basically knew nothing about the bike.. only through the forum that when you get a exhaust you need to rejet.  so thats what i did. 

2008 GS500F Modification: Fenderectomy. Additional LED Brake Lights. Blue Underlighting Kit. Grills on the Fairing. K&N Drop in Filter. Laser Deeptone 2-1 Exhaust. DynoJet Kit. Rear Kellerman Turn Signal. 14T sprocket. Carbon Fiber Race pegs. SM2 handlebar. 06 R6 Rear Suspension.

Kurlon

I'm setup for Loudon / NHMS with 16/44 gearing.  I can't quite wring 6th out down the front straight.
1991 GS500E - LRRS/CCS Novice #771

gsfighter100

gsnoober you listed everything in bluehazes sig except the dyno jet kit. not that that is rejetting but its kinda like rejetting.
2006 gs streetfighter gpz cafe racer project

noiseguy

I was reading through the modifications on the Dyno Jet kit for the GS's.

What's the purpose of drilling holes in the plastic slides for the Dyna Jet kit? Is this suppose to improve the slide response to throttle?

1990 GS500E: .80 kg/mm springs, '02 Katana 600 rear shock, HEL front line, '02 CBR1000R rectifier, Buddha re-jet, ignition cover, fork brace: SOLD

black and silver twin

QuoteI was reading through the modifications on the Dyno Jet kit for the GS's.

What's the purpose of drilling holes in the plastic slides for the Dyna Jet kit? Is this suppose to improve the slide response to throttle?

dont get Dyno jet kit! there hard to tune and dont work well for any thing other than stock bike
07 black GS500F; fenderectomy, NGK DPR9EIX-9 plugs, 15T sprocket, Jardine exhaust, K&N lunchbox, 20-62.5-152.5 jets 1 washer, timing advance 6*, flushmount signals,Tommaselli clipons over tree, sv650 throttle, 20w forkoil, sport demon tires, Buddha fork brace, Goodridge SS lines, double bubble

ineedanap

Quote from: black and silver twin on November 05, 2009, 10:59:48 PM

dont get Dyno jet kit! there hard to tune and dont work well for any thing other than stock bike

Really???
My 90 GS500E has spread itself across the nation.

noiseguy

I'm not a fan of Dyno Jet kits in general. I used to have a '82 CB900F; the Dyno Jet kit for that bike included a drill for enlarging a non-removeable part in the 4 carbs. The kit was (in)famous for reliably blowing up engines at the 20K mile mark.
1990 GS500E: .80 kg/mm springs, '02 Katana 600 rear shock, HEL front line, '02 CBR1000R rectifier, Buddha re-jet, ignition cover, fork brace: SOLD

black and silver twin

Quote from: ineedanap on November 06, 2009, 06:38:41 AM
Quote from: black and silver twin on November 05, 2009, 10:59:48 PM

dont get Dyno jet kit! there hard to tune and dont work well for any thing other than stock bike

Really???

really, the needles they come with will sometimes give a lean/flat spot, then if you tune the flat spot out it runs too rich in the top end. plus the jet sizes are not standard and dont match up with mikuni sizes making future tuning damn near impossible. just do a jet search on this forum or look in the wiki and find out what jets you need for your mods then buy them, individual jets cost $2-3 apiece where as the dyno jet kit is ~$100 and comes with 10 or so  indecipherable jets. the stock needles can be adjusted to work much better than DJ needles for 1 or 2,  5 cent washers.
07 black GS500F; fenderectomy, NGK DPR9EIX-9 plugs, 15T sprocket, Jardine exhaust, K&N lunchbox, 20-62.5-152.5 jets 1 washer, timing advance 6*, flushmount signals,Tommaselli clipons over tree, sv650 throttle, 20w forkoil, sport demon tires, Buddha fork brace, Goodridge SS lines, double bubble

black and silver twin

Oopps! I cursed in my last post, I thought the forum automatically filtered/edited them out! my bad
07 black GS500F; fenderectomy, NGK DPR9EIX-9 plugs, 15T sprocket, Jardine exhaust, K&N lunchbox, 20-62.5-152.5 jets 1 washer, timing advance 6*, flushmount signals,Tommaselli clipons over tree, sv650 throttle, 20w forkoil, sport demon tires, Buddha fork brace, Goodridge SS lines, double bubble

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