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Started by seamax, September 21, 2009, 01:24:18 PM

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seamax

when i park the bike on an incline with the front wheel up hill, it is really hard to shift the bike. I've check the oil and everything seems normal. anyone else have this issue?

dohabee

Do you mean that it is hard to shift while you are parked or after you leave?

I sometimes am unable to get to neutral to let the bike warm up after leaving the bike parked in 1st on an incline.

If it happens I just drive forwards a foot or so and the it will easily go into neutral.

jrains89

give it a little throttle while you try to get it down in first.
2004 GS500F

seamax

Quote from: dohabee on September 21, 2009, 06:28:01 PM
Do you mean that it is hard to shift while you are parked or after you leave?

I sometimes am unable to get to neutral to let the bike warm up after leaving the bike parked in 1st on an incline.

If it happens I just drive forwards a foot or so and the it will easily go into neutral.

Both. After a 15 minute ride home from work, I would park my bike on my driveway so I can go open the garage door. The incline is not that much..about 10-15 degrees. The bike would be in 1st and I would try to get it to neutral and it would not budge. So I end up having to shut her off, open the garage door and starting her up in 1st gear and riding her in. I've only notice this happens when the bike is fully warmed up.

black and silver twin

Its the oil level. whether its from too much oil or the incline the clutch is being completely submerged in oil, which causes a thin viscous film of oil to transfer a small amount of torque through the transmission. this torque puts pressure on the dogs which are designed to hold tighter under load. this causes it to be very hard to shift and when it does, with a large amount of force, it will probably go into second gear rather than neutral. my bike did  the same thing only at any incline including flat. after adjusting the clutch to no avail i adjusted the oil level (which was 1/4 quart over filled) and that fixed it. because its only happening to you on an incline its probably not the oil level its just because of the incline sloshing the oil back over the clutch. next time try revving the engine to 2000 rpms and trying to shift while reved, this will speed up the oil pump and (temporarily) lower the oil level in the crank case. also check your oil level the proper way, on a level surface, on the center stand, dipstick not screwed in.
07 black GS500F; fenderectomy, NGK DPR9EIX-9 plugs, 15T sprocket, Jardine exhaust, K&N lunchbox, 20-62.5-152.5 jets 1 washer, timing advance 6*, flushmount signals,Tommaselli clipons over tree, sv650 throttle, 20w forkoil, sport demon tires, Buddha fork brace, Goodridge SS lines, double bubble

dohabee

Quote from: seamax on September 22, 2009, 06:48:15 AM

Both. After a 15 minute ride home from work, I would park my bike on my driveway so I can go open the garage door. The incline is not that much..about 10-15 degrees. The bike would be in 1st and I would try to get it to neutral and it would not budge. So I end up having to shut her off, open the garage door and starting her up in 1st gear and riding her in. I've only notice this happens when the bike is fully warmed up.

Is it an electric garage door?  If so I recommend installing a button on your handlebars to open from the bike.

I put the remote in my headlight housing and hooked it to a tiny switch in that blank space above the starter switch.

I did this as a result of being tired of getting off the bike to open the door.

seamax

Yes it is electric. That sound like a cool plan...do you have a schematic of how to do this?

black and silver twin

QuoteI put the remote in my headlight housing and hooked it to a tiny switch in that blank space above the starter switch.

My friend did this with his zx6r 636, he just mounted the remote box, batteries and all under the fairing. then removed the stock momentary contact switch from the remote and hooked up a small momentary contact switch in an empty switch on the bars. then wired the new switch to the old wires. works awesome, makes me wish I had an electric garage door
07 black GS500F; fenderectomy, NGK DPR9EIX-9 plugs, 15T sprocket, Jardine exhaust, K&N lunchbox, 20-62.5-152.5 jets 1 washer, timing advance 6*, flushmount signals,Tommaselli clipons over tree, sv650 throttle, 20w forkoil, sport demon tires, Buddha fork brace, Goodridge SS lines, double bubble

mister

Here's a garage door opener you might find interesting. The guy says he has some spares available...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1C-Bxifv2Pk

Michael
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seamax

Quote from: mister on September 22, 2009, 11:48:50 AM
Here's a garage door opener you might find interesting. The guy says he has some spares available...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1C-Bxifv2Pk

Michael

LOL! Now give me a naked garage door switch.  :icon_lol:

dohabee

Quote from: seamax on September 22, 2009, 11:07:38 AM
Yes it is electric. That sound like a cool plan...do you have a schematic of how to do this?

Because  I rent my place I didnt want to destroy the remote.

I opened up the case and soldered 2 long thin wires to the contacts on the switch.

The original button on teh remote still works but now if I touch the 2 wires together it also activates the door.

Then I found a random small switch that fits in the blank spot on the bars and hooked up the wires running out of the remote.

With some effort I was able to run the wires through a stock wire wrap that goes to the starter switch.


black and silver twin

Quote from: seamax on September 22, 2009, 12:38:30 PM
Quote from: mister on September 22, 2009, 11:48:50 AM
Here's a garage door opener you might find interesting. The guy says he has some spares available...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1C-Bxifv2Pk

Michael

LOL! Now give me a naked garage door switch.  :icon_lol:

Mine only worked once, now it just gives me this error signal>  :flipoff: < all the time. And it wont work naked, I tried
07 black GS500F; fenderectomy, NGK DPR9EIX-9 plugs, 15T sprocket, Jardine exhaust, K&N lunchbox, 20-62.5-152.5 jets 1 washer, timing advance 6*, flushmount signals,Tommaselli clipons over tree, sv650 throttle, 20w forkoil, sport demon tires, Buddha fork brace, Goodridge SS lines, double bubble

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