bahhhh

[inexplicable718]

btw this is my source and it also has a pic of the wd40 use (just scroll down)


http://www.webbikeworld.com/t2/motorcycle-chain-lube/

[joker79507]

Not to change the subject or anything because I have always been taught to use kerosene in the aviation industry but the mechanics that were servicing those bearings should have repacked the bearings every 100 hours or annually. The wheels spin fast and suddenly and if its hot enough that grease will just liquefy and there goes all lubrication.  So that bearing was messed up from all around bad maintenance.

WD-40 is a penetrate and from what I have been told it actually attracts moisture and will cause rust if not greased. The o-rings will get messed up because once the penetrant leaves it takes away all the oils in the rubber which cause it to crack and then you have problems.  In my opinion it is ok to use as a quick fix but only for a short period of time.  I would suggest cleaning it with kerosene and the putting a good chain grease on it as soon as you get the money for the supplies and the free time in your day.

Just my 2 cents though take it how you want to.

[inexplicable718]

Not to change the subject or anything because I have always been taught to use kerosene in the aviation industry but the mechanics that were servicing those bearings should have repacked the bearings every 100 hours or annually. The wheels spin fast and suddenly and if its hot enough that grease will just liquefy and there goes all lubrication.  So that bearing was messed up from all around bad maintenance.

WD-40 is a penetrate and from what I have been told it actually attracts moisture and will cause rust if not greased. The o-rings will get messed up because once the penetrant leaves it takes away all the oils in the rubber which cause it to crack and then you have problems.  In my opinion it is ok to use as a quick fix but only for a short period of time.  I would suggest cleaning it with kerosene and the putting a good chain grease on it as soon as you get the money for the supplies and the free time in your day.

Just my 2 cents though take it how you want to.

Thanks man.. Yeah i am thinking about using kerosene on it but i am not sure about the lube..

[joker79507]

Well if you just use kerosene it will be clean but then you leave it open to rust and wear more on the chain which will lead to premature failure. I would do both at the same time.  Its more time consuming and dirty but its a better pay off in the end. 

[mister]

InEx...

We covered this in another thread Very recently...

#1: A photo of an aircraft bearing does not mean anything other than, don't use it on an aircraft bearing.

#2: WD40 does NOT negatively effect the O-Rings on a chain.

#3: A bike shop will always recommend the most expensive cleaner THEY make money from. (As evidenced from what they wanted you to buy instead of what the manual says to use.)

The Suzuki manuals says:

1 "Clean the chain with kerosene. If the chain tends to rust, the interval must be shortened. Kerosene is a petroleum product and will provide some lubrication as well as cleaning action."

2 "After thoroughly washing the chain and allowing it to dry, oil the links with Suzuki chain lube or an equivalent lubricant"

*I* use WD40 as my chain lube. I lube my chain at least once, sometimes twice a week. I do it after I tank up. I tank up in the morning, check tire pressure and then when I get home I lube the chain. So I know it was all done the same day. So far no detrimental chain problems with using WD40. And I am yet to read of anyone who has had problems using it. I've read people who don't use it saying not to use it because XXXX. But nothing from anyone who has used it and experienced XXXX. Plenty from people who have used it an no detrimental effects.

So give a spray and wipe with some WD40 and see how it goes. BUT. If you have doubts, grab yourself a bottle of kero and use that instead and then some expensive chain lube.

Remember what I said about the cracks to look for? The bike shop saw them. As for riding around on cracked tires... *I* would change them. See, even though the cracks may not look bad inflated, the tires were Flat. So no telling how Deep those cracks really go and thus how much rubber you really have left in your side wall. But, do show us some pics of the tires anyway.

And in addition... if you can, a close up pic of your chain sprocket. it just occurred to me it might not be in the best condition either. Might be fine. And just a rusty chain and cracked tired from sitting in the shed for too long.

Michael

[Paulcet]

what if i am riding and all of a sudden the tires pops? can i get into an accident or anything like that?

Yes, something like that.  Or worse.

It sounds like your bike is costing quite a bit of money to get going, but once it is up to par, maintenance is going to be pretty cheap.

[NF11624]

I don't know much about the whole chain cleaning debate, but a can of PJ Blue chain lube is less than $10.  I've used this every 600 miles (or so), and I'm still on my first can 9500 miles later.  Maybe if you lube with WD-40 twice a week you won't have a problem, but for a couple bucks more for the real thing, seems a no brainer.

To each their own though. 

[annguyen1981]

those cracks are an indication of tire rot if I remember correctly.  The shops are technically supposed to fail your safety inspection, but some shops are more relaxed than others.

yea i got lucky(ahem). But u havent answered any of my questions. High 5!!! how long will these tires last if i ride em constantly? bare in mind that it has a few cracks ..

Dohabee said it already....  the reason why I didn't give you a definite answer to how long you can ride 'em s because there IS no answer.

They can blow today. They can blow tomorrow.  Get them changed before they blow.

[inexplicable718]

InEx...

We covered this in another thread Very recently...

#1: A photo of an aircraft bearing does not mean anything other than, don't use it on an aircraft bearing.

#2: WD40 does NOT negatively effect the O-Rings on a chain.

#3: A bike shop will always recommend the most expensive cleaner THEY make money from. (As evidenced from what they wanted you to buy instead of what the manual says to use.)

The Suzuki manuals says:

1 "Clean the chain with kerosene. If the chain tends to rust, the interval must be shortened. Kerosene is a petroleum product and will provide some lubrication as well as cleaning action."

2 "After thoroughly washing the chain and allowing it to dry, oil the links with Suzuki chain lube or an equivalent lubricant"

*I* use WD40 as my chain lube. I lube my chain at least once, sometimes twice a week. I do it after I tank up. I tank up in the morning, check tire pressure and then when I get home I lube the chain. So I know it was all done the same day. So far no detrimental chain problems with using WD40. And I am yet to read of anyone who has had problems using it. I've read people who don't use it saying not to use it because XXXX. But nothing from anyone who has used it and experienced XXXX. Plenty from people who have used it an no detrimental effects.

So give a spray and wipe with some WD40 and see how it goes. BUT. If you have doubts, grab yourself a bottle of kero and use that instead and then some expensive chain lube.

Remember what I said about the cracks to look for? The bike shop saw them. As for riding around on cracked tires... *I* would change them. See, even though the cracks may not look bad inflated, the tires were Flat. So no telling how Deep those cracks really go and thus how much rubber you really have left in your side wall. But, do show us some pics of the tires anyway.

And in addition... if you can, a close up pic of your chain sprocket. it just occurred to me it might not be in the best condition either. Might be fine. And just a rusty chain and cracked tired from sitting in the shed for too long.

Michael

Hey thanks again michael. I will take pix of the tires/chain sprocket and put em up in a few days..

[inexplicable718]

I don't know much about the whole chain cleaning debate, but a can of PJ Blue chain lube is less than $10.  I've used this every 600 miles (or so), and I'm still on my first can 9500 miles later.  Maybe if you lube with WD-40 twice a week you won't have a problem, but for a couple bucks more for the real thing, seems a no brainer.

To each their own though. 

Damn that sounds BADDDD... I cant imagine going on 40+ mph and the tire blowing up on me.. i would seriously get hurt.. hmmm.

yeah i think i am leaning more towards the chain lube spray... its around 10 bucks here 2.. but i also want to use kerosene on it..

[inexplicable718]

Thanks again guys.. I really appreciate your replies and help... Pe@ce

[inexplicable718]

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