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project floating tail starts...

Started by seamax, December 11, 2009, 02:19:44 PM

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gregvhen

Quote from: tt_four on March 14, 2010, 07:03:55 PM
Progress is looking great as usual. If you paint those braces black I don't think you'll even see them. Can you weld? I think if you can you should try to fill those holes in the frame. They worry me. The GS doesn't exactly have frame bending torque like some bikes, so I'm sure you'll be fine, but still. You at least want to make sure they're completely covered so no water collects inside the frame.

What's your final plan for making the undertail? I'm going to have to try to make one soon too. I picked up some fiberglass sheets and resin from home depot so I'm gonna try making something once it warms up enough outside for me to try it out.

i think he coverd the holes in the frame with the LEDs.  But for strength, if it matters there, you could just weld the hole closed with maybe a 1/2 in. opening for the wires to the LEDs. are those brake lights, or turn signals? not that it matters for how you weld it, im just wonderin

tt_four

I saw he covered them with the turn signals, but you can still see inside the holes as they're slightly wider than the signals, and if I can see if them, water will definitely find its way in. Maybe just weld thin strips down each side to make sure they seat up when you put the lights on.

O.C.D.

Just go get some 1/8" by 1" or so plate and weld it up.  Make it look clean before you add those leds.  You will be a lot happier.
'92-'09 Suzati
http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=50448.0

Quote from: Ugluk on June 24, 2010, 09:48:08 AM
The mascot of the GS500.. The creature that's got the biggest ugliest a$$ of them all.
A wombat. It's got a big ugly a$$ too.

gregvhen


O.C.D.

'92-'09 Suzati
http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=50448.0

Quote from: Ugluk on June 24, 2010, 09:48:08 AM
The mascot of the GS500.. The creature that's got the biggest ugliest a$$ of them all.
A wombat. It's got a big ugly a$$ too.

badguy

Quote from: gregvhen on March 15, 2010, 10:49:21 AM
or caulk the edges of the lights

Haha, nothing tops off a quality bike build like a nice bead of caulk around the edges ;)
2000 GS500

rswickx525

thats awesome! i dont like the floating so much as i love the different seat and plastics! like i said before stock looks like a snowmobile seat and is huge and ugly! doesnt go with the rest of the bike. the f version anyways. just my opinion. i would like a new seat and plastics without the cutting and welding. too much work haha
thats what she said.

tt_four

Quote from: rswickx525 on March 16, 2010, 07:11:18 PMi would like a new seat and plastics without the cutting and welding. too much work haha

I with that MMoto bodywork scam that was on ebay actually sold half decent stuff. You'd see those tails on half the GSs around if they shipped and fit reliably.

rswickx525

Quote from: tt_four on March 17, 2010, 02:00:21 PM
Quote from: rswickx525 on March 16, 2010, 07:11:18 PMi would like a new seat and plastics without the cutting and welding. too much work haha

I with that MMoto bodywork scam that was on ebay actually sold half decent stuff. You'd see those tails on half the GSs around if they shipped and fit reliably.

mmoto bodywork scam? what did they do just sell different rear ends that were already set to go or something? why was it a scam and how much? lol i would like one. then i could just fix it and make it work rather then completly customizing mine haha
thats what she said.

tt_four

Quote from: rswickx525 on March 17, 2010, 03:43:05 PM


mmoto bodywork scam? what did they do just sell different rear ends that were already set to go or something? why was it a scam and how much? lol i would like one. then i could just fix it and make it work rather then completly customizing mine haha

They made new bodywork for the GS that made it look like a gsxr. The tail looked just like the current gsxr tail but it bolted right up to the gs subframe with no cutting/welding. There were just a ton of problems with them. They took FOREVER to ship, and usually when people got them things were bent, scratched, wouldn't fit right, then the people who sold it would stop responding to emails, but by the time the stretched it out too long you were past the limit to file a complaint through paypal. Basically a nightmare.

Who'd you buy your tail from seamax? I remember you said before, but I can't remember. Was it the same people?

seamax

I got mine from mmotos in Brazil. It was the first prototype with dual exhaust in the tail. I got an extreme discount otherwise I would never buy such a kit becuse it would be more then what I got the GS for and that was before shipping fees to the US. I removed the dual exhaust system and filled the tail holes with caddy led lights. The kit was OK nothing fancy. There were some fitment issues which I resolved on my part but it wasn't anything significant like some of the other members here have gotten. But still if they have a GS there I don't understand why there would be fitment issues and they way they boxed the items is ridiculous. It was full of newspapers I was lucky all my pieces came intact and only a couple scratches here and there compare to others who had chips and broken pieces. I also requested many times that I wanted it painted all red, no logos or any other color and they still sent me half red and blue with GSXR logos all over. What someone should do is buy this kit and do a mold and reproduce it here.

Anyways enough rant, I don't think anyone is ever going to order from them again anyways not just because of quality and customer service but why would you spend your money on fairings when it cost over half the price of what your bike is worth. That's my logic.



Back to my build yesterday I was able to hammer the frame to snugly fit the new turn signals so no caulking  :thumb:
but I will tac on a thin metal plate to mount the light though.

tt_four

Quote from: seamax on March 18, 2010, 01:35:03 PM
What someone should do is buy this kit and do a mold and reproduce it here.


You know what you should do, is make a mold of that kit you have and reproduce it.

I'll take one of the tails  :thumb:

rswickx525

yeah sign me up for one too haha. so its basically just a gsxr rear end and seat then?
thats what she said.

tt_four

It's designed after the gsxr, but it's made specifically for the gs. Mini sportbike camouflage.

tt_four

#74
I know you're well on your way with this, but I figured I'd post this other floating tail project just for good measure...
http://customfighters.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8711

http://www.customfighters.com/forums/showthread.php?t=31449&highlight=floating+tail

seamax

Quote from: tt_four on April 07, 2010, 06:14:28 PM
I know you're well on your way with this, but I figured I'd post this other floating tail project just for good measure...
http://customfighters.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8711

http://www.customfighters.com/forums/showthread.php?t=31449&highlight=floating+tail

Thanks for the links. Those guys have a lot more talent than I do. I have no welding skills and no $$$. I almost have everything repainted and waiting for a few parts before assembly. Will try to take a few pics this weekend.

tt_four

I can't weld either, which is sad, but I did pick up one of those cheap flux wire welders from HF the other weekend. Haven't tried it yet, but at least I'll get started. I've talked to people who have used that welder for steel subframe, but I'll have to test some stuff out before I see how much I trust the welds, I'm not counting on it but I'll at least be able to use it to tack some subframes together, and then I can just deliver the whole thing in one piece to someone to be properly welded, which is easy enough.

I'm super jealous of all those old slingshot gsxr frames though. I've been keeping an eye out to see what's for sale, hoping to find something lighter since I'm only 5'7 and 145lbs, but I still can't get over those 15+ year old gsxrs, even if they weigh 100lbs more than anything else I'm looking at.

seamax

some progress. there is still tape on somethings so I can spray the flat clear coat...




JEREMY JOCK

Looks awesome man, I really love the look of everything (or nothing?) under the tail.

Question though, are you painting everything while it's on the bike?

O.C.D.

'92-'09 Suzati
http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=50448.0

Quote from: Ugluk on June 24, 2010, 09:48:08 AM
The mascot of the GS500.. The creature that's got the biggest ugliest a$$ of them all.
A wombat. It's got a big ugly a$$ too.

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