600 or 1000cc?

[travisn]

if you have to ask then the answer is no

[tykho]

I had a CBR600RR for my first street bike and I ended up downgrading to the GS500F not only because of insurance, but because I thought I'd be far less likely to seriously hurt myself. I've been thinking about a GSXR750 for my next bike, but not for at least a few years, and I've also been eyeing a SV650 for my next step instead. I have a blast on my GS, and even though it's not as fast as the CBR, I feel so much more comfortable with it at my skill level. It's also a great bike to work on your cornering with, and that's a skill you're going to need to utilize any bike to it's potential anyway. I mean, honestly, how many 600CC+ riders do you know who can actually ride the bike to its maximum potential? I'd wager it's in the area of ~15%.

[Suzuki Stevo]

Mathematically the odds are against you on either bike with 1 month riding experience, stick with the 500 for a while.   

[tt_four]

Not a bigger jump as you may think, had GSX750F -

If he was referring to any 750, then yeah, go ahead and grab a katana, I'm not gonna give you a hard time. If you think a katana 750 is anywhere near the same thing as a gsxr750 you're just kidding yourself. A gsxr750 weighs a full 100lbs less than a katana(the gsxr full of fluids still weights 30lbs lighter than a katana that's bone dry!), gsxr makes 140hp and the katana makes 93. A gsxr750 made 13hp more than that when it was introduced in 1985. I mean if the kid wants to ride a bike with late 1970's sportbike numbers, I'm not gonna give him a hard time about it at all, but modern 600-1000cc sportbikes are a whole different world.

I'm not sure the "you'll never use this bike to it's potential" argument has ever done anything for me though. I'm not sure what the point of it is. First of all it depends what potential you're talking about. People can very well use every bit of HP as they're cruising down the highway. I assume you're referring to someone's ability to ride it fast around twisty roads, but if that's when you should upgrade, I'd be willing to bet that there's a lot of people who really couldn't even use a ninja 250 to it's full potential, and I don't hear many complaints about people upgrading over them. Just because you might be able to still be faster on a certain bike doesn't mean you can't still enjoy a bike with a bit more torque. Honestly I don't use my cable to it's full potential. I've got channels I don't even know about but the only channels I ever watch are comedy central and whatever channel That 70's show is on. Should I forfeit my cable for some rabbit ears, as I clearly wouldn't use the 6 non-cable channels to their full potential??

[PachmanP]

I'm pretty impressed with the responses from everyone -- I'm glad you're not all advocating a big bike.

Haha if I was gonna troll this site I'd ask the OP's question... I think people who have 500's are usually the ones who realize that starting on a 600cc supersport is a bad idea...

[tt_four]

Haha if I was gonna troll this site I'd ask the OP's question...

That was my initial assumption when I read his question, and considering he hasn't come back to respond since he asked, he either was just messing with us, or we scared him away.

[Paulcet]

http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=50233.0 might explain the motives.

[romulux]

http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=50233.0 might explain the motives.

i.e., insecurity with a bike your friends don't think is big enough.

Egos don't mix well with motorcycles.

[O.C.D.]

I have nothing to say really so I thought I would boost my post count.

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[Eklipse]

Ah, I see. I never had problems with people ribbing on me because I had a GS500. The only problem I had is owning everyone on the corners, and then everyone asking me after we stop to teach them how to corner like that.

[tialloydragon]

I have been riding for almost four weeks.  I completed the MSF Course on April 3.  I cannot imagine upgrading to something bigger for a long time, because I can get myself in plenty of trouble with my GS500.  When I do upgrade, it'll be something like SV650 (or something comparable from another manufacturer.)

There are no situations I will be presented with where I would exceed the capabilities of the GS.  It'll do 100mph, that's good enough for me.  Grab a handful of throttle in 2nd gear, it'll take off like a high performance car 30 times more expensive than what I paid for my GS.

Keep practicing with your GS.  Learn how your machine performs, and you can get plenty of thrills as you become accustomed to it.

I will continue working on my skillset for a long time before I even consider upgrading, and when I do upgrade, I will be a very gradual process.  

I hope you choose to do the same before you become a statistic.

I get zero criticism from experienced riders when I tell them what I ride.  

[Elijafir]

It's horses for courses and what you want the bike for, talk to ya local bike shop and listen to them.

I would be wary of this advice.  A guy that comes in to our shop was telling me that the 'local bike shop' was telling him that he needed to buy a 1000cc I4 because of his 'size' and he's never been on a street bike. 

[tt_four]

The first new bike I bought was a ninja 250, and looking back on it now, I'm amazed a salesman didn't even try to talk me into something bigger. I used to be in there all the time sitting on bikes, so I'm sure they knew what I liked. Maybe they knew I was poor and in college, haha.

[gregvhen]

i wouldnt mid having a newer 1000 for a little bit, simply because i would really enjoy the ability to wheelie any gear on demand, but my friend had an R1, and he went throught sprockets like once every 2 months, sometimes 1 a month when hed been riding alot, i assume part of this was cause his riding style, but i could also see how a 1000cc bike will tear up a chain and sprocket pretty quick. also insurance stupid expensive on those cause theyre considered super sport.  Personally the bike i want to get is a cbr600.  Im just not in the position financially to do so, but its my reasonable dream bike.

[tucsondude]

I vote Troll.

ie post count and dates, in one month....

I think ill get a 1200 after this bike.... when i start making money...

[gregvhen]

someone on here, cant find it, said "GS will break any speed limit, theres no need to go bigger"

my moms mini van will go 120, break any speed limit. that doesnt mean its fun to drive haha.

Also i dont like waitd 5 mineutes to hit 120 hahah

I can totally see why you would want a bigger bike, but a 1000, thats pointless at this point. Id bet 100 bucks that if you bought a 1000, rode it for a month then bought a 600 and rode it for a month, you would have more fun on the 600.  Most people who get 1000 are either 1. very heavy people 2. just want everyone to know they have a 1000, 3. actually use it for racing and know what they are doing, and want the 1000cc's to win.  something tells me you are not too heavy for a 600, nor someone who races.

[tt_four]

I vote Troll.

ie post count and dates, in one month....

How do you know how many dates the kid goes on in a month?