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Started by reload, October 27, 2010, 05:34:52 PM

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JB848

OK I like all bikes for different reasons..don't like the new trend with this "street fighter" crap! Don't like the high rear ends with the skinny long rear fender. It's like horrendous! To me.

The motorcycle should blend and be a piece of art not an abstract of something that makes you want to cut your ear off! Who designs these things EWWWWWW!

I guess I have become a curmudgeon!

Twisted

Talking of emissions. The Diesel powered bike could be the thing of the future. This one is made in Holland -

http://www.treehugger.com/files/2009/04/diesel-motorcycle-track-t-800cdi-eva-holland-europe.php

JB848

Me personally I hope there is day coming that our children will not be dependent on foriegn oil and there is another source like hydrogen. These 3rd world countries have been sucking us dry for to long! And we as sheep have just followed.

I know that is political and off topic sorry.

SAFE-T

Based on the number of USED CBR125's with minimal mileage on them, I can say that a small bike doesn't really have a place in North America. The place is just too big and spread out. Maybe if you lived at one end of Deal's Gap...

As for mid-size bikes, I've always liked the GS500 but 44hp is only *just* enough to run with traffic that goes 120-150km/h, while the 70-ish horsepower of the SV is right in the zone. The 650 Ninja never looked or sounded good to me in comparison.

JB848

I really find that odd Rick. How fast do you ride? In MPH Please. In NJ where I ride anywhere..if your under 80 you will get run over and if you can't slow down to 20MPH well you will have a flat nose. Not that riding anywhere else is easy but I will ride and have through NY city and around it.

tt_four

Quote from: JB848 on October 29, 2010, 09:38:23 PM
OK I like all bikes for different reasons..don't like the new trend with this "street fighter" crap! Don't like the high rear ends with the skinny long rear fender. It's like horrendous! To me.


I'm sure you already know this, and were just venting, but I'm pretty sure the manufactures expect you to remove that long fender as soon as you get home. They put it on because it needs to legally be there. I think a lot of newer bikes look pretty ugly **couch couch kawasaki yamaha cough cough** but when you see the bikes in race plastics it all makes sense. Still I don't understand how they keep coming up with some of these headlight arrangements that just destroy a bikes styling, but oh well. The fenders are clearly just tossed on there, and I think I accept it, but I'm definitely a fan of the tails that need them.

I like some bikes with pretty big and low tails, like the SRAD gsxrs, zx7r, and a few others, but I don't have much use for a big long tail so to me it just looks like extra bulk.

The one thing that I can appreciate is that manufactures are just bolting them on now so they're easy to fix. It's not like some of my previous bikes that made you take a cut off wheel to the underside of the tail to remove the molded in fender.

noworries


GI_JO_NATHAN

Well, at least it's FI. But what a strange commercial..
Jonathan
'04 GS500
Quote from: POLLOCK28 (XDTALK.com)From what I understand from frequenting various forums you are handling this critisim completely wrong. You are supposed to get bent out of shape and start turning towards personal attacks.
Get with the program!

Anderw

It looks like the VFR 800  8)



One reason for 250's and not 500's could be down to UK licenses. If you are under 21 you need to have a 2 year restriction which is 33hp or less hence all the sporty 250's. You can buy any bike and restrict it i.e R1, ZX10R etc however your insurance is ridiculous.

45-50hp 500's doesn't seem to be enough anymore for a full license holders. 70hp+ like the ER6f and GSX650f.

Me and my '08 GS reside in Derbyshire, England.

CliffHanger

Quote from: Anderw on November 01, 2010, 05:55:14 AM
It looks like the VFR 800  8)




I think that's actually an artist rendition of the VFR1200.
Unless Honda is redesigning the VFR800 as well this year?
Wherever you go, There you are. -Buckaroo Banzai and others

SAFE-T

Quote from: noworries on November 01, 2010, 04:00:32 AM
CBR250 promo video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIgEBZlzKWc

Hmmmm....I guess 'superior riding position' and 'stylish hand grip' mean something to the East Indian market compared to whatever lower-spec machinery they are used to riding.

...Or there is just not much you can say about a 250cc single, so you have to do what you can with what you have  :dunno_black:


SAFE-T

Quote from: JB848 on October 29, 2010, 10:34:45 PM
I really find that odd Rick. How fast do you ride? In MPH Please. In NJ where I ride anywhere..if your under 80 you will get run over and if you can't slow down to 20MPH well you will have a flat nose. Not that riding anywhere else is easy but I will ride and have through NY city and around it.

Maybe it works OK in a congested area where you rev the nuts off it to get up to 80 and grab a handful of brake to slow back down to 20 every five minutes.

Out in an area where you have several hours of slab between places, not so much.

Anderw

Quote from: CliffHanger on November 01, 2010, 07:05:49 AM
Quote from: Anderw on November 01, 2010, 05:55:14 AM
It looks like the VFR 800  8)



I think that's actually an artist rendition of the VFR1200.
Unless Honda is redesigning the VFR800 as well this year?

I think your right, it's the 1200 I was referencing.  :thumb:
Me and my '08 GS reside in Derbyshire, England.

tt_four

From the video it definitely looks nicer than the 250. I bet the 250 will be getting a nice update in a year or two. It's also cool that it comes with real clipons, even if they're super high. That'll give people the option to put lower bars on it easily. That isn't an option with the kawasaki.

madjak30

Quote from: tt_four on November 01, 2010, 01:53:39 PM
From the video it definitely looks nicer than the 250. I bet the 250 will be getting a nice update in a year or two. It's also cool that it comes with real clipons, even if they're super high. That'll give people the option to put lower bars on it easily. That isn't an option with the kawasaki.

I think you were talking about the 125 since that is the 250...but here is your answer...from Canadian Motorcycle Guide Online (CMG)...

"As we speculated here, we can now confirm that a new CBR125R will be coming to Canada for 2011.

Styling is the obvious difference, heavily inspired by Honda's CBR600RR and CBR1000RR supersports. Aside from a refreshing new look, the CBR125 gets three more litres of fuel capacity, now at 13 litres, and to ease maintenance the fuel filter has been moved to outside the fuel tank.

Beneath the bodywork is the same, reliable 125 cc fuel-injected engine and sturdy steel, twin-spar frame.

Wheels are wider, up from 1.85 and 2.15 inches front and rear, to 2.5 and 3.5 inches respectively. The wider rims accommodate wider tires, the front now a 100/80-17 and the rear a 130/70-17 (they used to measure 80/90 and 100/80 front and rear). This should improve handling considerably, adding stability and reducing the tendency of the CBR125R to turn in too quickly.

Unfortunately, claimed wet weight is up 10 kg to 137 (302 lb).

Pricing isn't available yet but the new CBR125R should be priced near the $3,599 of the previous model."

Here is an accomanying picture...




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tt_four

I was comparing the ex250 and the cbr250, I'm just so used to being able to say 'the 250' after all this time that I forgot to specify. The kawasaki 250 has bars that bolt onto the top clamp similar to the 89 gs500 so thats what youre stuck with. the cbr bars are actually on the fork tubes so itll be easier to put lower clipons on the cbr250. I wouldve loved my ex250 a lot more back in 2002 if I couldve put some real clipons on it.

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