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Do Frame SLiders help the GS500 or SV650

Started by dirtz, November 07, 2003, 08:25:55 AM

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dirtz

Frame SLiders........ do they really make a difference when I fall off my GS500 or SV650, when taking a very fast corner
at a very low angle and my bike slides away below me.

Coz I felt that the tank and exhaust are still gonna take a lot of damage.

Also what about the rear indicators, they will be completely scraped off.
(This one I know by experience, on my 125cc bike)

Is there anything to protect these too..................
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octane

On the GS I think the lower case covers take the brunt of a spill. Don't think there's any way to avoid scraping up the exhaust, etc. The sliders are designed to minimize damage to the frame and in the case of a faired bike, the plastic. If you go down, stuff's gonna break. No way around that.

fuzzymemory

They make different kinds of sliders for the SV650 - intuative has standard and "pro" sliders.  The pro sliders are longer and will protect your fairings in most cases.  Sliders also help with low-speed drops (such as tipovers) - they may save a shifter or brake lever on the SV.  The pegs are so strong on the GS (and heavy) that they help prevent damage during a tipover.  From what I've seen, the SV tends to break when you tip it in almost any situation, and the GS crashes better.
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rjsjr

On the GS I don't think frame sliders will help much.  The lower engine casing and cover, bar end, brake/clutch lever, and exhaust are typically what would get scratched up in a lowside.  The tank can get dented up, mostly from the bar being driven into the tank if hit hard where the lock is damaged.  With turnsignals as far out as the gses there is not way a slider would protect them, but that's a good excuse to upgrade to some better looking buells or similar.  Engine crash bars and fixed pegs are probably the best way to protect for lowsides, but one of the endearing qualities of the gs is that its pretty bulletproof and damage from moderate lowsides is usually just cosmetic and maybe some bent controls.

With an SVS, I'd invest in sliders.  The front and side fairings can easily get scraped up and crack during a lowside.  The tank can get scratched up as well, but I think that's less likely.  They look a little goofy since you there aren't strong symmetric mounts for them, but work well from what I've seen/heard at the track (at least for more moderate low sides).
... rjs

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fuzzymemory

Quote from: rjsjrWith an SVS, I'd invest in sliders.  The front and side fairings can easily get scraped up and crack during a lowside.  The tank can get scratched up as well, but I think that's less likely.  They look a little goofy since you there aren't strong symmetric mounts for them, but work well from what I've seen/heard at the track (at least for more moderate low sides).
Intuitive sells symmetrical sliders for the 99-02 SV650.  I think BikeSliders sliders are, too.  Most other brands aren't symmetrical.
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dgyver

Frame sliders are NOT designed to protect plastic. They may help reduce some plastic damage though. The frame is the main object to protect since it the most difficult part to replace.

The non-symetrical sliders for a SVS do not do any good. Most are too short and too far forward on the left side. I bought a wrecked SVS that had damage on both sides and the sliders were untouched, there wasn't even a left rearset or shift linkage. Maybe if the clipons broke, then they would have helped. The symetrical Intuitive Pro sliders use a long bolt to attach and are longer than most sliders I have seen.

On my race GS, I have been working on a design to attach frame sliders to act as case guards, similar to the Suzuki case guards but with replaceable sliders. Haven't found a supplier of a long enough bolt of the proper grade to replace the engine mounting bolts. I can attach mounting brakets to the frame but don't think the frame is strong enough and would bend in a crash.

I have seen sliders mounted on the rear footpegs to protect the exhaust. About the only way to keep turn signals fron getting damaged in a crash (outside of removing them completely) is to either flush mount them or to integrate them into the brake light.
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