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My EFI 'kit'

Started by JeffD, October 19, 2008, 06:06:29 AM

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Gizmoman

We never said it will be Plug and Play, Easy to install or cost $250. What we did say was the kit will have everything you need to get it working and will be affordable.

For the time being we are working on the schematics of the device and haven't added anything additional except for what was part of the original design. Once this is finished we shall look into adding and modifying the design as needed.

If you have any suggestions about the project then we are more than happy to listen in our project section or the Community group of the project. As for the Power, system and other issues.. You should actually visit our site and see what we do. :) We aren't doing this since yesterday and this is by far the most complicated thing we have done so far so no worries about it working properly.

NickyNumbers

Quote from: Gizmoman on April 29, 2011, 10:30:37 AM
We never said it will be Plug and Play, Easy to install or cost $250. What we did say was the kit will have everything you need to get it working and will be affordable.

For the time being we are working on the schematics of the device and haven't added anything additional except for what was part of the original design. Once this is finished we shall look into adding and modifying the design as needed.

If you have any suggestions about the project then we are more than happy to listen in our project section or the Community group of the project. As for the Power, system and other issues.. You should actually visit our site and see what we do. :) We aren't doing this since yesterday and this is by far the most complicated thing we have done so far so no worries about it working properly.


http://www.diyautotune.com/catalog/megasquirtii-engine-management-system-wpcb3-assembled-unit-p-65.html

Assembled its 450.  Parts alone is around 180 or something.  You mentioned before its going to be cheaper than the megasquirt box but more than 100 dollars because "the throttle body costs 50".

I don't have any suggestions for your project other than my criticism for it.   Its just a fair warning to people reading this thread. 

Also, don't be condensing by telling me to go your site like that.  I already did and the first post is the guy saying he is quitting.  There are no visible links to your "project section" and it looks to me like a Wordpress blog that you just took over from him. 


I love hearing "No worries about it working properly"



I may be new to the board, but I'm not afraid to share my opinion.  I'll eat humble pie if you guys actually build something, but to me it just seems like an overly ambitious project for an application that really doesn't require it. 

And remember before you post back to me,  this is a public forum.  I'm not trying to be mean, I just have a completely different opinion than you.  Good luck and I'll refrain from posting anymore, I don't want to seem like I'm picking on you or something.  Just my .2 cents

Gizmoman

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Nicky,

I am sure that if you read through the project description, you will find all the links to everything related. We just started the project yesterday so don't expect to see the finished project any time soon.

Not sure what the whole fuss is about here, we done many projects and we are doing this one as every other for free and sharing all the designs. If someone doesn't like what we do or the project in general then simply ignore the post. Putting negative feedback on an Open Source effort is really unnecessary at this point when the project just begun.

We aren't resellers and we aren't a cheap retail store. Our work and the feedback from the community can be clearly seen and found. The Original EFI can be found on YouTube working so there is no reason to doubt the original design. We simply want to make it smaller and cheap.

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Also, don't be condensing by telling me to go your site like that.  I already did and the first post is the guy saying he is quitting.  There are no visible links to your "project section" and it looks to me like a Wordpress blog that you just took over from him. 

Clearly you are quite lost at this point as you haven't even read our post in this forum regarding the project. Try reading what we initially posted and i am sure it will all become clear. Especially the part where it says:

QuoteIf anyone is interested then feel free to read about the project here.

PS: the Project section is titled "Projects" on the top bar of the website. You can't miss it.

scottychop

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I'm missing something.  The link provided is a blogspot page with picture errors, all from 2010.  Which project link are you referring to?  woops.  Found the other thread.  disgregard.

jeffdodge

IDK... this got my hopes up for something cheap, and plug & play ready. Sad to see thats a no go.

Gizmoman

We shall try to make it as cheap as possible. As for Plug & Play.. We shall do our best to describe how to install the system and select the best Throttle body, pump and other parts so it is as simple as possible to install. The rest we leave to anyone who wishes to do it. Hopefully this will turn out as good as we expect it to.

tb0lt

Here is an idea that I think could help keep the project cost down. Instead of replacing the carb hardware completely, you could just strip the unnecessary parts  and reuse the original GS500F carb since it already has a TPS sensor and vacuum ports and such built in. The injectors could be incorporated into the existing carb (which requires drilling and sealing up the hole around the injector) or added post carb straight into the rubber necks that connect the carb bodies to the intake ports. Best solution... no... MacGyver solution.. i think ..yes.  :cheers:

gregvhen

Quote from: tb0lt on April 29, 2011, 03:57:33 PM
Here is an idea that I think could help keep the project cost down. Instead of replacing the carb hardware completely, you could just strip the unnecessary parts  and reuse the original GS500F carb since it already has a TPS sensor and vacuum ports and such built in. The injectors could be incorporated into the existing carb (which requires drilling and sealing up the hole around the injector) or added post carb straight into the rubber necks that connect the carb bodies to the intake ports. Best solution... no... MacGyver solution.. i think ..yes.  :cheers:

itd probably much easier to machine a new throttle body than try to turn a carb into one

Gizmoman

Tnx for the idea guys but it really would be much cheaper to just get a compatible throttle body as the one from Polaris Indy 500 and incorporate all the necessary features into it. Don't forget that we are trying to make this as simple as possible so that others can install it as well.

tb0lt

Quote from: gregvhen on April 30, 2011, 01:10:11 AM
Quote from: tb0lt on April 29, 2011, 03:57:33 PM
Here is an idea that I think could help keep the project cost down. Instead of replacing the carb hardware completely, you could just strip the unnecessary parts  and reuse the original GS500F carb since it already has a TPS sensor and vacuum ports and such built in. The injectors could be incorporated into the existing carb (which requires drilling and sealing up the hole around the injector) or added post carb straight into the rubber necks that connect the carb bodies to the intake ports. Best solution... no... MacGyver solution.. i think ..yes.  :cheers:

itd probably much easier to machine a new throttle body than try to turn a carb into one

Im curious... why would it be easier or cost friendly to machine a new one?

I just looked at a Ninja 650R throttle body assembly next to a GS500F carb (both parallel twins and closely sized), and the throttle body is just a stripped down carb with an injector port. That is why I felt it would be more cost effective to reuse what you. In the simplest form, a throttle body is just a stripped down carb with the fuel metering circuitry removed from it.

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