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Oil Filter Size and Where to Buy??

Started by GSProdigy, May 31, 2011, 11:27:59 AM

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GSProdigy

My Local CycleGear did not have an oil filter.

What sizing is it and where can I buy one. There seem to be no dealerships with them.

Thanks

LimaXray

I just got one from Autozone.  They had to order it, but they got it in the next day.  I don't remember the part number, but they can look it up for you.  It was only ~$7 which is much cheaper than the stealership I used to get them from.
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4strings

The wiki has all you need  :thumb:
http://wiki.gstwins.com/index.php?n=Maintenance.ChangeOil

OEM part numbers:
Suzuki filter 16510-45040, Suzuki O-ring 16518-4500. Yes, you buy the OEM O-ring separately.

Aftermarket part numbers:
STP SMO-00
FRAM CH6000
Purolator ML16800
Wix 24931
Hi Flo HF133
NAPA PS4931

Though most do, check that the aftermarket ones come w/ an o-ring.  I bought mine off Bikebandit w/ some other stuff. 
Be CAREFUL tightening the filter cover nuts back onto the studs.  They REALLY don't need that much tightening.  I also used regular grease on the o-ring to help keep it in the groves during installation.
I tightened mine snug plus just a little more with only two fingers.  It's not terrible if you snap the stud (as MANY have done before), but it's just easier not to have to replace one.

Happy filter changing!
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CndnMax

OEM at dealer is about 6 bucks. I've reused the o-ring for 20k miles and never got a leak, I would replace the crush washer everytime though.

LimaXray

The filter I got from Autozone was the Fram and it did come with a new o-ring.
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ben2go

Advanced Auto stocks GS filters and you can get them cheaper through NAPA if you buy them in bulk.
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The Buddha

Yes and nighthawks, vulcan 750's (same filter as honda accord) eliminators, virago's, honda shadow 600's, etc all are available @ autoparts and at walmart even.
However the one and only filter that is worth buying made by a motorcycle manufacturer is the yamaha one. It has a 6 lobe construction with some unique pleating, near about 2X the surface area over the straight up and down pleats. Its like a square paper pleated into that round shape if you can imagine that.
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rickster21

OK, so I'm getting ready to buy some parts for a tune-up this weekend and I see that Amazon has the Purolator ML16800 filter for $3.89 w/prime.
http://www.amazon.com/Purolator-ML16800-Black-Motorcycle-Filter/dp/B000E8XFF0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1313080672&sr=8-1
That's a great deal, but has anyone used a Purolator filter? Also, the pic on Amazon is probably wrong, but can anyone confirm?
Thanks
Rick E.


ben2go

Quote from: rickster21 on August 11, 2011, 09:43:48 AM
OK, so I'm getting ready to buy some parts for a tune-up this weekend and I see that Amazon has the Purolator ML16800 filter for $3.89 w/prime.
http://www.amazon.com/Purolator-ML16800-Black-Motorcycle-Filter/dp/B000E8XFF0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1313080672&sr=8-1
That's a great deal, but has anyone used a Purolator filter? Also, the pic on Amazon is probably wrong, but can anyone confirm?
Thanks

That's not a pic of the correct filter.Never ran Purolator filters.I used fram until I talked with my friend that owned a NAPA.He got me a case of NAPA brand filters and they came to roughly $2 a filter.I believe there was 12 in a case.He has since closed so I'll check with the NAPA in the next county to see if I can get another case for the same price.Have you considered doing the same?If you ride a lot or plan to keep a bike for an extended period,it's cheaper to buy oil and filters by the case.
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paalak

I'm using the K&N KN-133 filter. Put it in at my last oil change, which is going on 3000 miles ago, just bought another one for my next change. Haven't had any problems with it.

Nugent

Quote from: paalak on August 11, 2011, 09:07:31 PM
I'm using the K&N KN-133 filter. Put it in at my last oil change, which is going on 3000 miles ago, just bought another one for my next change. Haven't had any problems with it.

I checked amazon and entered in my gs and the site says that filter does not go with my bike. Have you had any problems with your K&N KN-133 filter since your last post?

adidasguy

#5205
Quote from: Nugent on August 01, 2012, 08:41:22 AM
Quote from: paalak on August 11, 2011, 09:07:31 PM
I'm using the K&N KN-133 filter. Put it in at my last oil change, which is going on 3000 miles ago, just bought another one for my next change. Haven't had any problems with it.

I checked amazon and entered in my gs and the site says that filter does not go with my bike. Have you had any problems with your K&N KN-133 filter since your last post?

I just checked - it is listed. Did you just look at the first page of fitments? There are 5 (FIVE) pages. Fir a total of 106 in the list. All GS500-s 1989-present use the same filter.

Compatibility Chart
Make    Model    Year
Suzuki   GS450GA   1982
Suzuki   GS450GA   1983
Suzuki   GS450GA   1985
Suzuki   GS450L   1980
Suzuki   GS450L   1981
Suzuki   GS450L   1982
Suzuki   GS450L   1983
Suzuki   GS450L   1985
Suzuki   GS450L   1986
Suzuki   GS450L   1987
Suzuki   GS450L   1988
Suzuki   GS450S   1980
Suzuki   GS450S   1981
Suzuki   GS450T   1982
Suzuki   GS450TX   1981
Suzuki   GS450TX   1982
Suzuki   GS450TX   1983
Suzuki   GS500   1989
Suzuki   GS500   1990
Suzuki   GS500   1991
Suzuki   GS500   1992
Suzuki   GS500   1993
Suzuki   GS500   1994
Suzuki   GS500   1995
Suzuki   GS500   1996
26 to 50 of 106 Fitments
Page: 1 2 3 4 5

twocool


I've been using the K & N 133......just seems a little better built than the Fram...

I have used Fram with no bad results as well as OEM.....

Cookie




Quote from: adidasguy on August 01, 2012, 11:03:35 AM
#5205
Quote from: Nugent on August 01, 2012, 08:41:22 AM
Quote from: paalak on August 11, 2011, 09:07:31 PM
I'm using the K&N KN-133 filter. Put it in at my last oil change, which is going on 3000 miles ago, just bought another one for my next change. Haven't had any problems with it.

I checked amazon and entered in my gs and the site says that filter does not go with my bike. Have you had any problems with your K&N KN-133 filter since your last post?

I just checked - it is listed. Did you just look at the first page of fitments? There are 5 (FIVE) pages. Fir a total of 106 in the list. All GS500-s 1989-present use the same filter.

Compatibility Chart
Make    Model    Year
Suzuki   GS450GA   1982
Suzuki   GS450GA   1983
Suzuki   GS450GA   1985
Suzuki   GS450L   1980
Suzuki   GS450L   1981
Suzuki   GS450L   1982
Suzuki   GS450L   1983
Suzuki   GS450L   1985
Suzuki   GS450L   1986
Suzuki   GS450L   1987
Suzuki   GS450L   1988
Suzuki   GS450S   1980
Suzuki   GS450S   1981
Suzuki   GS450T   1982
Suzuki   GS450TX   1981
Suzuki   GS450TX   1982
Suzuki   GS450TX   1983
Suzuki   GS500   1989
Suzuki   GS500   1990
Suzuki   GS500   1991
Suzuki   GS500   1992
Suzuki   GS500   1993
Suzuki   GS500   1994
Suzuki   GS500   1995
Suzuki   GS500   1996
26 to 50 of 106 Fitments
Page: 1 2 3 4 5

skudman

Never run fram..they are awful

"This filter cartridge has a small outside diameter with a rather low filter element surface area (193 sqin), and features cardboard end caps that are bonded in place using a thermal adhesive.  The rubber anti-drainback valve seals the rough metal backplate to the cardboard end cap.  In practice these seem to leak, causing dirty oil to drain back into the pan.  If you use this filter and have a noisy valve train at startup, the filter is likely the cause.  The bypass valves are plastic and are sometimes not molded correctly, which allows them to leak when they should be closed.  The backplate has smaller and fewer oil inlet holes, which may restrict flow."

Purolator is the filter I run, its inexpensive and can be bought where I buy my oil (Bimart), last I checked more is better!

"The Purolator filter elements generally have the highest surface areas out of all the filters in their price range (and in general).  This filter cartridge has an impressive surface area of 316 sqin.  It features a spring-loaded metal bypass valve and a nitrile rubber diaphragm-type anti-drainback valve, which doubles as the seal between the backplate and the cartridge.  The bypass valve is stamped right into the bottom end cap of the cartridge, so it is all one piece"

by the way this can all be read here: http://minimopar.knizefamily.net/oilfilters/reference.html#fram
some interesting reading if you want to make an educated decision.

RossLH

Quote from: skudman on August 01, 2012, 11:08:34 PMNever run fram..they are awful

Agreed (at least, according to my experience with their car oil filters). Buuuut they do come with an oil filter cap o-ring, which my local parts store doesn't otherwise carry.

twocool

So does K&N..

Cookie


Quote from: RossLH on August 01, 2012, 11:19:41 PM
Quote from: skudman on August 01, 2012, 11:08:34 PMNever run fram..they are awful

Agreed (at least, according to my experience with their car oil filters). Buuuut they do come with an oil filter cap o-ring, which my local parts store doesn't otherwise carry.

gsJack

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Quote from: skudman on August 01, 2012, 11:08:34 PM
Never run fram..they are awful

"This filter cartridge has a small outside diameter with a rather low filter element surface area (193 sqin), and features cardboard end caps that are bonded in place using a thermal adhesive.  The rubber anti-drainback valve seals the rough metal backplate to the cardboard end cap.  In practice these seem to leak, causing dirty oil to drain back into the pan.  If you use this filter and have a noisy valve train at startup, the filter is likely the cause.  The bypass valves are plastic and are sometimes not molded correctly, which allows them to leak when they should be closed.  The backplate has smaller and fewer oil inlet holes, which may restrict flow."

Except for a couple of STP filters I got from Autozone and which were identical to the Frams with the same mfg. part number stamped on them I have only used Fram oil filters in my 97 and 02 GS500s for the past 13 years and 175,000 miles.  Approaching 100k miles on the 02 now with approx 95600 miles on the clock and counting. 

I never saw a Fram for the GS500 that didn't have metal end plates.  Only problem with them I've had is the included molded 0-ring type cover seal is a bit small and hard to keep in place unless you use ample grease to retain it.  No problem if you have some all purpose grease handy and easier than ordering some overpriced o-rings from Suzi.

407,400 miles in 30 years for 13,580 miles/year average.  Started riding 7/21/84 and hung up helmet 8/31/14.

jestercinti

I have never been able to use the non-OEM o-ring that comes with the aftermarket filters.  I have an 09 F model, and I stick with the OEM ring for best fitment.  Just me I guess.

I have used Fram in the past on my Mazda cager.  193,000 miles no issues.  Also, I have had no issues with my bike with Fram thus far.  However, if I find a good deal on an OEM filter, I'll buy it and use it along with the Fram.
Bikeless and Broke at the moment...

Nugent

Ok, my mistake. I just entered in my bike and did not see any filters in the results.
http://www.amazon.com/2009-Suzuki-GS500F/e/B005AWEQRG/ref=au_pf_pfg__dn?_encoding=UTF8&carId=001

My bike is 200 miles past its scheduled oil change and I'm just a little nervious about changing it for the first time... pathetic right?


Quote from: adidasguy on August 01, 2012, 11:03:35 AM
#5205
Quote from: Nugent on August 01, 2012, 08:41:22 AM
Quote from: paalak on August 11, 2011, 09:07:31 PM
I'm using the K&N KN-133 filter. Put it in at my last oil change, which is going on 3000 miles ago, just bought another one for my next change. Haven't had any problems with it.

I checked amazon and entered in my gs and the site says that filter does not go with my bike. Have you had any problems with your K&N KN-133 filter since your last post?

I just checked - it is listed. Did you just look at the first page of fitments? There are 5 (FIVE) pages. Fir a total of 106 in the list. All GS500-s 1989-present use the same filter.

iclrag

Any auto zone and they have it or will order it for you, you also may want to look into the K&N filter it has a life-time warranty whoch is great for these kinds of things

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