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Started by Twism86, June 21, 2011, 07:34:35 AM

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Twism86

So my horn has stopped working on me. The bike took a gentle fall a few months ago and the button cracked but it was still functional. I also recently had the head light and wiring apart, and had the handle controls off when changing the bars. Now the horn doesnt work...

Ive already checked all the wires to make sure I didnt miss a connection, it doesnt appear that I did. I took the controls off again but didnt want to take apart the blinker part to get to the horn button but it seems functional. I think my next step it to use a multi meter to check the electrical connections.

Can anyone suggest something? Maybe to test the actual horn to see if its just not shot? Thanks.
First bike - 2002 GS500E - Sold
Current - 2012 Triumph Street Triple R
"Its more fun to ride a slow bike fast than a fast bike slow"

Tom

xunedeinx

The first thing I did on my bike was the horn.

When I bought it, it didn't work. To see if it was the horn, or the wiring, I took some speaker wire and jumped the horn to the battery, dead.

So, I bought these...

http://www.autozone.com/autozone/accessories/Blazer-High-and-low-tone-replacement-twin-horns/_/N-25ki?counter=53&itemIdentifier=6074_0_0_

One is in the stock location. Other is above the left side spark plug location, pointing down, underneath the tank. There was a blank screw hole, so I used it.

Need to wire in a relay to the stock horn harness, 10 minute job.

IT IS LOUD!

-Justin

PS-I can take pics if you'd like.

tt_four

Did you ever pull those 2 plugs off the actual horn? Check and make sure they're not backwards. It won't work if you put them on the wrong sides.

Twism86

Quote from: tt_four on June 21, 2011, 07:56:28 AM
Did you ever pull those 2 plugs off the actual horn? Check and make sure they're not backwards. It won't work if you put them on the wrong sides.
I never removed it since it worked so I dont think thats it. Maybe it just died? I will try jumping it and see if its shot or not. I hope thats it because I REALLY dont want to re-wire anything (and I probably wont) and my dad has been on my @$$ about getting this fixed ASAP  :icon_rolleyes:
First bike - 2002 GS500E - Sold
Current - 2012 Triumph Street Triple R
"Its more fun to ride a slow bike fast than a fast bike slow"

Tom

sledge

The horn circuit on the GS5 is unusual in that it is permantly live with the ignition on and grounds through the switch on the negative side. Testing is simple, with the ignition turned on pull the black/blue wire off and run a length of spare wire from the terminal to the frame or even better the - terminal of the battery, if the horn is servicable and seeing 12v it will operate. If you are going to test with a meter you should see 12v on the black (yeah......positive on a black wire  :dunno_black:) with the ignition on and a very low resistance circuit between the black/blue wire and the frame or - terminal with the button pressed in.

As mentioned the horn is polarised and wont operate if the 2 wires that connect to it have been reversed.

Twism86

Thanks, now I just need to find me some speaker wire...... I will probably just get a new horn anyway once i figure it all out.
First bike - 2002 GS500E - Sold
Current - 2012 Triumph Street Triple R
"Its more fun to ride a slow bike fast than a fast bike slow"

Tom

scratch

Also, adjust the little screw on the back while holding the button down.
The motorcycle is no longer the hobby, the skill has become the hobby.

Power does not compare to skill.  What good is power without the skill to use it?

QuoteOriginally posted by Wintermute on BayAreaRidersForum.com
good judgement trumps good skills every time.

Twism86

Quote from: scratch on June 21, 2011, 01:42:44 PM
Also, adjust the little screw on the back while holding the button down.
Not sure what you mean? Can you you explain that a little better? Thanks.
First bike - 2002 GS500E - Sold
Current - 2012 Triumph Street Triple R
"Its more fun to ride a slow bike fast than a fast bike slow"

Tom

Mart3y

Quote from: Twism86 on June 21, 2011, 06:02:31 PM
Quote from: scratch on June 21, 2011, 01:42:44 PM
Also, adjust the little screw on the back while holding the button down.
Not sure what you mean? Can you you explain that a little better? Thanks.

correct me if im wrong, but, im pretty sure he just means press the horn button and hold it in while adjusting the the screw on the horn itself to change the sound slightly.

I haven't tried it, but i assume it changes the tone and maybe gets you a bit more volume?
2002 GS500

Twism86

Ok thanks. Yea I have no volume right now, not even a peep. Rain is forecast for the next few days so bike stuff will have to wait.
First bike - 2002 GS500E - Sold
Current - 2012 Triumph Street Triple R
"Its more fun to ride a slow bike fast than a fast bike slow"

Tom

scratch

Yes, hold the horn button down, ignition on, and adjust the little screw on the back of the screw.  That screw adjusts the bi-metal contact, and if it's screwed all the way out it wont contact; all the way in and it cannot separate (short).
The motorcycle is no longer the hobby, the skill has become the hobby.

Power does not compare to skill.  What good is power without the skill to use it?

QuoteOriginally posted by Wintermute on BayAreaRidersForum.com
good judgement trumps good skills every time.

Twism86

Quote from: scratch on June 22, 2011, 10:18:22 AM
Yes, hold the horn button down, ignition on, and adjust the little screw on the back of the screw.  That screw adjusts the bi-metal contact, and if it's screwed all the way out it wont contact; all the way in and it cannot separate (short).
I think you said something wrong... Sorry im just trying to figure this out.
First bike - 2002 GS500E - Sold
Current - 2012 Triumph Street Triple R
"Its more fun to ride a slow bike fast than a fast bike slow"

Tom

scratch

Yeah, you got me.  I meant the screw on the back of the horn.
The motorcycle is no longer the hobby, the skill has become the hobby.

Power does not compare to skill.  What good is power without the skill to use it?

QuoteOriginally posted by Wintermute on BayAreaRidersForum.com
good judgement trumps good skills every time.

Twism86

First bike - 2002 GS500E - Sold
Current - 2012 Triumph Street Triple R
"Its more fun to ride a slow bike fast than a fast bike slow"

Tom

Toogoofy317

The $39 stebil scooter horn is one of the best presents I could have gotten! 139db has saved me a couple of times! IF you can't see me you darn will hear me!

Mary
2004 F, Fenderectomy, barends, gsxr-pegs, pro grip gel covers, 15th JT sprocket, stock decals gone,custom chain guard,GSXR integrated mirrors, flush mount signals, 150 rear tire,white rims, rebuilt top end, V&H Exhaust, Custom heel and chain guard (Adidasguy)

Twism86

Thanks Mary, ill look into it!
First bike - 2002 GS500E - Sold
Current - 2012 Triumph Street Triple R
"Its more fun to ride a slow bike fast than a fast bike slow"

Tom

Twism86

Good news: The horn isnt broken. It works when hard wired to the battery

Bad news: That means something in the wiring or switch is broken..... Harder to fix  :icon_sad:

Any advice? Everything else works on the bike electrically that plugged into the same plug behind the headlight. My guess is  that its the button itself.
First bike - 2002 GS500E - Sold
Current - 2012 Triumph Street Triple R
"Its more fun to ride a slow bike fast than a fast bike slow"

Tom

ben2go

There's no horn relay so it has to be in the switch on the bars or a pinched or broken wire.Souldn't be that hard to trace down.
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runabout879

When I got my old Goldwing, the horn would barely make a peep. I went up to Autozone and got universal replacement horns, and installed them. Since the bike originally came with a twin horn system, they bolted right on and I didn't have to mess with the wiring. I loved having loud horns on my bike.

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