what the heck happened to him **IMAGE WARNING**

[Pam G]

I did not look at the image, but just think how you guys might feel if you know of someone, friend or family member, that was killed in an auto accident or the like, and photos were taken & posted on the internet somewhere?  I think this type of thing is totally disrespectful of the deceased person & their family.
Reminds me of when Dale Earnhardt's wife filed to prevent the release of  photos of Dale after his accident at Daytona.  Does the general public really need to see that?  IMO no.

[purerealm]

so a guardrail did it? blueknight, a guardrail had your guts hanging out? well thanks for telling us, i'll be more careful not to hit on eof those when i get my bike

[pizzleboy]

I agree with that.  

But if common decency doesn't prevent you from posting it, and there are no specific rules against it, then technically there's no reason to pull it down.  IMO

[sprint_9]

You've got my support fully John, a great point by Pam G also.

[South East Rocket]

You could argue both sides...  Anyway, I always think it's discusting and after i see it I feel like puking....  But for some dumbass reason, I always look!

[javio1]

Brutal pic? Yes. Do we need to be reminded that this kind of stuff happens? Yes. May whatever supreme being you guys believe in watch over all of us so that this doesn't happen. Don't delete the post it's a good wake up call. Pam does have a very valid point, but didn't they show you guys those "Red Asphalt" movies in driver's ed? All those were pics of accident scenes used to try and scare us into driving safely, right? My condolences to his family. It is a tragedy none the less.

[kyzee]

Regardless of what protective gear is worn,  there is no defying the law of physics. The energy on impact must go somewhere. Even a cage will not save our life if the condition of the accident does not favor us.

[Blueknyt]

so a guardrail did it? blueknight, a guardrail had your guts hanging out? well thanks for telling us, i'll be more careful not to hit on eof those when i get my bike

yes, i did, and guess what, it happend at 15 mph.  damage to bike? not even a mirror broke.

Does the general public really need to see that?

Yes, how many of you got ill at it? how many of you will remember this picture when your riding? what will it do to your riding style?


privacy thing, well, yes and no, it was on a public roadway so there is no privacy, but why not shade out the face/name if shown to keep reconition down. that i could live with.  

And don't even start with that censoring crap, anyone here will tell ya that posts are almost never ever censored.

yes john, that is specificly why most of us Value what is said here, cuz its presented as typed, not blacked out or deleted. its also why so many here respect one another and can get along, cuz everyone can have their say.

funny i didnt read alot of bitching when someone posted a link to a topless chick holding a sign, i love gstwin.com  that had NO warning. this being the case then i can easly assume that all the members of this board find porn acceptable, but not realistic gore that does deal DIRECTLY with what we do?  

again, I will agree... let me quote this,  

" I agree, that such postings of pictures/links containing gore/porn have a warning to content in the subjectline, and that only such must be connected to motorcycleing.  other such content is not exceptable or wanted, and will not be tolerated and will be subject to deletion and a possible suspention of your posting privleges"

Signed

Charles J. Peagler

Nothing, could be more fair, or expected then the above statement. to do more or less would be wrong.

I value and respect everyones thoughts and statments here, regaurdless if i agree with them or not.   I may not agree with what you say, but i will defend your right and option to say it.

you can look over any of my old postings, i dont trash talk anyone and wont. i dont look to piss ppl off, intentionaly anyway.  and i have A DAMN BIG LOAD of respect for someone to put up and operate such a site with the amount of dedication that you have john. you being the owner/sysop have the right to do as you plz. But i think most here would agree and do respect you for the fact you dont play god on here. (unless someone is trying to be a blatant a$$) i have said my peace, i willstand by it 100%  I hope no one thinks less of me for it.

[MattyC]

Sorry, this is reality folks. If you work in EMS or at a hospital, you get to see things like this often. It's an absolute tragedy for the family, but it's also (hopefully) a wake up call to anyone who who thinks he doesn't need to be concerned with safety, skill development and caution on the street. Maybe this kid was a safety freak... none of us know, but clearly there's a lot of risk in this sport even if you do everything right. What do you think it means when people say motorcycling is dangerous and potentially deadly?? To ban these types of pics just helps sanitize people's perception of riding. There's obviously a lot more to it than specs, mods, dyno charts and theortical discussions about which bike carves better and accelerates faster. Ride safe.

[Katie]

Not that I am an expert, But I have serious doubts that this picture is real. I am an EMT so I guess the sicko in me had to examine the picture. How lucky that all the gear ended up close to the body Also I noticed that there were no hands and feet visable (the hardest thing to make look real) Perhaps my computer image was not as good as some peoples but honestly...for those injuries there was not enough blood. The average male contains six liters of blood...just my opinion. However warnings for graphic/pornographic pictures are always appreciated.

[purerealm]

im thinking the clothes are like that because they dragged him and his stuff off the road so that cars could pass

[purerealm]

katie, he had both gloves and boots on

[Afterburner]

I find such pictures to be educational and cautionary.  It makes me think: We are not invincible or immortal, and even good gear can't save us from everything. This does happen, and can happen to me.  

This helps me think twice when I'm tempted to go all macho gung-ho aggressive and ride like a maniac.  It causes me to ride more carefully.

There are a lot of wild riders who give in to the temptation to push beyond their limits or the limits of the machine or physics, and I wish more of them would see pictures like this and think about them.  It might save their lives.

It takes this kind of gore to make it real, to give it emotional impact, to make it more than a mere theoretical possibility that could be too easily shrugged off or ignored.

It would be more helpful, however, it there was also information about what happened and why.

Just my opinion.

[Dragonfly]

I have a grandfather who is permanetly disabled, and whos girlfriend was killed in a motorcycle accident.
In 96 my stepdad was killed when he was blindsided by a truck (on a Honda Elite 150 of all things).
I was also the first responder to a fatal accident involving a Harley and a car load of teenagers.
Motorcycle tragedy runs very deep in my family, and is at the very front of my mind at all times.
Every time I suit up and go for a ride, wether it be a sunday ride or a ride to work, I prepare that it very well could be the last time I ever get on my bike. I kiss my Fiance like its the last time I will ever be able to kiss her.
I feel that this awarness of my own mortality helps hone my awarness to what is going on around me.

Allthough pictures like this are very gorry, and difficult to look at. I would hope that it reminds everyone how incredibly vurnerable we are out there between all those 3000lb blind beasts.

I am glad and respect the moderators of this board very much for not censoring things like this.

Good luck, and ride safe.
Micah

[purerealm]

good for you micah.   ride safely.
live everyday like it's the last...

[Blueknyt]

well, if you go to the link, and change the last number on the link, up or down, there is a total of about 4 pics to this scene. this guy didnt hit and fall, whats more, there was a passenger. notice there is a Boot, and there is a sneaker, BOTH are for the left foot. also, alot of that plastic isnt from the bike, its Fan shroud and splash gaurd from the car that drug him along, there is a wheel from the bike laying less then 5 feet from him, and its destroyed.  this did not happen at no 60 mph, and they did not come to rest within 250 feet either i will leave it up to you to find the other pictures. this is a real pic sadly enough. i too have seen enough of these as both my father being a miami Cop, and mother working trama.  

True i am a gore fan, i find Forensic's very interesting, yes i do feel sorry for those involved, both alive and dead. but the how it happend = results will always peek my intrest.  its also seeing gore and the whys/howcomes that allows me to deal with things like this in person,  how many of you have stuck a finger in someones artery without freaking just to keep them from bleeding out?  better yet, how many of you can hold your own innerds from falling out? no this isnt machismo. i went into shock bigtime after i got to hospital. but  there isnt much that can freak me since then.

[werase643]

mr road pizza did this on a straight stretch of road....
no guard rail....
no car in pic....
in brazil....
the link pic is where they were collecting pieces

gotta love adding a little bleach to the gene pool

[DrtRydr23]

If you change the number on the link to 840, 841, etc there are some more pictures of a different motorcycle accident where the guy riding appears to have been ripped completely in half.  Its a pretty grusome pic so those of you with weak stomaches consider yourselves so warned.

John L.

PS- Its been a while kids, its nice to be back.  Its too bad that its involving some nasty stuff like this.

Later.

[96gs]

whatever you do do not go to the site that this is from it is disgusting as hell.

[Laura]

funny i didnt read alot of bitching when someone posted a link to a topless chick holding a sign, i love gstwin.com  that had NO warning. this being the case then i can easly assume that all the members of this board find porn acceptable, but not realistic gore that does deal DIRECTLY with what we do?  

Good point.

I didn't look at the picture. I for one appreciate the warning, and I like that I can still read the posts about this topic without actually looking at the picture. A few months ago some gory pictures were posted right on the page when you opened up the topic. That pissed me off. I think most of us are old enough to decide if we need to see disgusting pictures to appreciate life, and the risks inherent in motorcycling.

I did type in the the address up to ".com" and left the rest of the url off. I agree 96gs, just looking at the index page is sickening.