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Started by Tombstones81, October 08, 2011, 02:37:36 PM

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Tombstones81

Ok, nephews having brake problems on his car so we've been to a few stores numerous times.

Seen the Aircraft Stripper at one store for $20, then $15 at another.

Grabbed the $15 one and just got done strippin my rear rim about 90% of the way.

Now, what do I all need to paint the rims Properly where it will last and look good?

Do I just go over it with regular paint I would use on tank etc? and nothin else?

Or is it the usual, Primer, Paint, then Clear?

Just being safe as the only thing I've ever painted so far is a brick wall. haha
well and my exhaust.

94 GS500
01 Engine
Personally repainted!  (Traded)

87 Honda VF700C Magna
(Super Magna)

NorwayGT1

dude i just tried painting my bike with spray can paint.. an the advice i got for you is simply ... DON"T lol
I waisted a whole lot of time and thats about it, how ever i put flat black paint on it and it actually came out good. but as far as shiny black with clear coat i would take it to the pros just do all the prep work your self (primer, sand, etc. whatever that you have to do)

I found out that even moisture in the air will completely ruin ur paint as well as small dust!

but it dont hurt to try as long as you have some money to waist if it goes bad.. we are only talking 20-30 bucks at the most for spray paint you know lol

Good luck to you!

Tombstones81

#2
yeah its only the rims for now.

The rest will be over the winter when its too cold to enjoyably ride.

Good advice on doing all the prep work myself tho.
I will probably call around and check the cost of a professional job with that done.

as for the rims, im not too worried.

and going to go with a dark red / burgundy, as that is what I plan to paint the tank and plastics.

which gives me even more of a reason to fully strip the frame down this winter, get it sand blasted and painted black as that would look better with red then the grey that it is now.

(edit)
thanks again!
got me thinking of sand blasting my frame, so for the heck of it I started looking up prices of units.
Then I seen that you can actually rent ones for a day for a mere $65. ( I would just buy one if I didnt plan to only use it Once and not need to again for YEARS)

So hell yeah :)
Just learned another way I can get things done myself and cheaper :)
and since I never sand blasted, if its pretty easy to mess up, can always have my neighbor do it for a case of beer :) (who knows how)
which I can now get a lot more done instead of just the frame and the rest with elbow grease.
94 GS500
01 Engine
Personally repainted!  (Traded)

87 Honda VF700C Magna
(Super Magna)

mitch79

I would have the wheels and frame powder coated rather than painting. More durable than paint and really not that expensive to have done.
2006 GS500F



weedahoe

yeah,my entire bike is stripped right now and EVERYTHING is getting powder coated. ;)

just gotta pick out my colors
2007
K&N Lunchbox
20/62.5/142.5
chromed pegs
R6 shock
89 aluminum knuckle
Lowering links
Bar mirrors w/LEDs
rear LED turns
89 clip ons
Dual Yoshi TRS
Gauge/Indicator LEDs
T- Rex sliders
HID retrofit
GSXR rear sets
Zero Gravity screen
Chrome Katana rims
Bandit hugger
Custom paint
Sonic springs

Tombstones81

thanks
yeah I havnt Really looked into alot of details until recently.
Why should I during riding season? haha

if im not strapped for cash this winter, pretty sure I will get at least my rims and frame powder coated.
was looking at some pics of frames and rims powder coated, Very nice!  :thumb:
94 GS500
01 Engine
Personally repainted!  (Traded)

87 Honda VF700C Magna
(Super Magna)

weedahoe

IDK about where you live but i called a guy last week about powder coating mine and was told 250 for the frame and 125 for the swing arm. Thats a bit high for me. Then was also told any special paint he had to order would be more.

Ive been on the powder coating forums for some time because i anticipated doing my own and already have my gun. I can tell you know the paint itself is cheap. Ive got my own blasting cabinet and parts washers also.

Ive been using glass beads for bare metal cleaning and rust removal but it wont strip paint. At Tractor Supply Company (TSC) they have Black Diamonds in 50lbs bags for $8 and it wont superbly.

http://www.tractorsupply.com/tools/sandblasting-tools-accessories/black-diamond-20-40-blasting-media-50-lb--3905403
2007
K&N Lunchbox
20/62.5/142.5
chromed pegs
R6 shock
89 aluminum knuckle
Lowering links
Bar mirrors w/LEDs
rear LED turns
89 clip ons
Dual Yoshi TRS
Gauge/Indicator LEDs
T- Rex sliders
HID retrofit
GSXR rear sets
Zero Gravity screen
Chrome Katana rims
Bandit hugger
Custom paint
Sonic springs

adidasguy

There is one thing that makes powder coating expensive. PREPARATION
The metal must be absolutely clean and free of all old paint. Certain reasons:
1. Power sticks through static electricity so the metal must be clean for a proper even charge on the piece
2. Cracks must be filled, things need to be smooth
3. Powder coating bakes at 400 degrees F. Any oil, paint, plastic or anything left on the piece would melt and ruin the finish
4. Remember that powder coating is, in simple terms, powdered plastic you spray on then heat to melt it to the piece (that's why you can't powder coat plastic - it would melt)

Paint can go over most anything. You can dip, spray, brush or any way you want to put on cleaner to get rid of dirt and grime. You can put on rust converters and rust encapsulaters so you don't need to remove all the rust. Good primer can go over nearly anything. You don't need to clean down to bare metal.

Mess up paint - pretty easy to get back to a paintable surface where powder coating is all or nothing. You can't touch up powder coating - you can touch up paint. To re-powder coat, you have to clean back down to bare metal.

So preparation is the main cost of powder coating. Then I guess second is the cost of the oven that is big enough to hold your parts. You can buy a starter powder coating gun and powders for a hundred bucks or so. I bought one and intend to learn powder coating. Its the preparation that is the killer - especially all the stuff of a frame.

slipperymongoose

Get the pro's to do it. I got my frame and swingarm done plus a few bits n pieces for 250 Aussie dollars. Frame was even done in a metallic. When my tyres come up I'll be getting my rims done in a metallic flek black. They had to bake my old coating off the frame. Check out my build thread in the project section.
Some say that he submitted a $20000 expense claim for some gravel

And that if he'd write a letter of condolance he would at least spell your name right.

joshr08

Quote from: adidasguy on October 08, 2011, 10:43:49 PM
There is one thing that makes powder coating expensive. PREPARATION
The metal must be absolutely clean and free of all old paint. Certain reasons:
1. Power sticks through static electricity so the metal must be clean for a proper even charge on the piece
2. Cracks must be filled, things need to be smooth
3. Powder coating bakes at 400 degrees F. Any oil, paint, plastic or anything left on the piece would melt and ruin the finish
4. Remember that powder coating is, in simple terms, powdered plastic you spray on then heat to melt it to the piece (that's why you can't powder coat plastic - it would melt)

Paint can go over most anything. You can dip, spray, brush or any way you want to put on cleaner to get rid of dirt and grime. You can put on rust converters and rust encapsulaters so you don't need to remove all the rust. Good primer can go over nearly anything. You don't need to clean down to bare metal.

Mess up paint - pretty easy to get back to a paintable surface where powder coating is all or nothing. You can't touch up powder coating - you can touch up paint. To re-powder coat, you have to clean back down to bare metal.

So preparation is the main cost of powder coating. Then I guess second is the cost of the oven that is big enough to hold your parts. You can buy a starter powder coating gun and powders for a hundred bucks or so. I bought one and intend to learn powder coating. Its the preparation that is the killer - especially all the stuff of a frame.

Your mostly right.  You cant take your plastics to a powder coat company and get them to powder them but you can do it.  We have a powder coating line at my shop and that guy powder coats anything and everything just to see if it can be done.  He powder coated his welding helmet along with wood and even food.  Everything needs to be spotless to powder oat tho.  If your going to take it and have it done find out from them what they want taken apart.  Most places are going to charge you to clean them so they know its done right so you would be wasting your time if you do it and then have to pay for it to be done anyways. 

If your going to paint them get a good name paint and prep them good and it will hold up good.  I did my rims on my gs with dupicolor spray can and when i traded it in on my new bike they listed it as powder coated rims so if you take your time it will turn out good.
05 GS500F
mods
k&n air filter,pro grip gel grips,removed grab handle,pro grip carbin fiber tank pad,14/45 sprockets RK X-oring Chain, Kat rear shock swap and Kat rear wheel swap 160/60-17 Shinko raven rear 120/60-17 front matching set polished and painted rims

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