What do you think the Occupy movement is about ?

[The Buddha]

Muhahahahah and the best way to lose $$$ is to leave it in an open field under a tent when the cops are comming.

One frui-tard was on radio talking about how the cops put everything he had in a pile whether it was fragile or not. Yea retard ... the cops will do your house keeping job.

I think they are looking for a job though yamahon, in the mean time they want to free load and waive their obligations.

Its like this "solve your problems by getting rid of them" ... the ole "cure insomnia by taking a nap"

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Buddha.

[The Buddha]

And apparently the cops cleared out that tent sity cos they wanted to prevent crime etc.

Nice, so that way locking up everyone - all the people in the world should be the best thing to do.

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Buddha.

[yamahonkawazuki]

And apparently the cops cleared out that tent sity cos they wanted to prevent crime etc.

Nice, so that way locking up everyone - all the people in the world should be the best thing to do.

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Buddha.

they could take a job in fast foodFFS. theyre not looking. like the engineers who are laid off. theyre looking for their old job back. while ignoring anything else. take somethign, ANYTHING. while awaiting your dream/ideal job

[NorwayGT1]

bhahahha they all got kicked the f%$k OUT LOL!!!!

about time, lazy a holes need to go to work or do something i mean damn.. its one thing to protest on weekends or everyday when you get off of work. But when you camp out in a public park, idk about you guys but i call that homeless lol

[slipperymongoose]

They kept shifting the occupy wankers round our city through parks n stuff I havnt heard a peep from them for weeks now I assume their still there. The ones in Melbourne were allowed to stay but there tents were taken.

[yamahonkawazuki]

bhahahha they all got kicked the f%$k OUT LOL!!!!

about time, lazy a holes need to go to work or do something i mean damn.. its one thing to protest on weekends or everyday when you get off of work. But when you camp out in a public park, idk about you guys but i call that homeless lol agreed.

i also call that lazy. i keep doing what i can until my disability starts. i refuse to be a bum though. like these ocutards are doing.
like i said. take ANY job one can get their hands on, and spread their spam amongs coworkers. whiel they dont offer up any short and long term proposals to fix what isnt broken. ( theres always 2 ways to fix somehting. even in obummers camp. a short  ( maybe 2 mos) andf a long 2 years? fix. needs both. many on LW want us to revert back to hippy commune style living. cease usage of oil completely. which means there goes their pc, cell phones, anythign electronic and msot foods. 99% of everythign we have, is owed in its makeup , to oil. or its byproducts.

[The Buddha]

LW doesn't want that at all. Where do you get that - really you need to probably stop blaming Obama for everything from the economy to the temperature.
Economy sucks but that is wall street's doing, regulations against wall street and banks are absolutely required else they will run the thing off the road again, but try to regulate them and they retaliate by choking off lending to small business while still taking in billions in bail out and paying out billions to executives. Regulating them sadly has also lost steam, so the banks are going to get away with it. Obama isn't the reason for it, republicans are, starting with the lack of regulations under bush and now killing the consumer protection agency and blocking elizabeth warren's nomination to it.

"Regulations kill jobs" is their operative and incorrect assesment. Regulations when introduced in the aftermath of a crisis, wihtout the imprisonment of the culprits who broke the rules when regulations were present but never enforced kill jobs.

However I am an insider and I get to see what regulations are doing inside the banks. Banks are waiting to get a friendlier govt in place, then they will be fully let off the hook after which they will likely go right back to where they were in 2005.

Economy sucks, but it sucks less than it would have otherwise, it also sucks less than it did in 2008, it also cannot be much better given the political wrangling. It simply put is the new world order.

Back to the oil question. The LW, RW, AFAIK - they all want to use less oil, especially foreign, but less oil period, solar, wind, ground anything. If I recall sarah palin is also about drilling ... she's all about drilling y'know ... yea ... and Ron Paul is also for getting out of the middle east and well while he's not explicitly said about drilling or about solar/alternative, I would seriously say he's for alternative energy.

Long term we are going to have to really start printing $ cover the deficts, cap SS, medicare/medicaid military, kill insurance industry and do a million other things to get to where we can sustain anything.

The SS and medicare and medicaid boat sailed looooooong ago. I remember a few years ago reading something like this - the first medicare recipient back in 1933-34 something received 32,000 something in benifits over her life time. She paid in $12.
That right there was a losing system.
Broken, fix it or broken, kill it, whatever. Print $ to cover it and dont adjust the payments from SS and medicaid with inflation. That is a good way to grow the economy and keep the medicaid/medicare problem under control.

If you think the realestate problem is bad now wait till 2015 or so. The retirement from baby boozers will flood the market with 70's junk including houses. In my case it is these humongous tanks of audio equipment ... supposedly rare sheite ... and I dont find 1 ... I find em in pairs. Or 3's. Of course since they will all be moving to florida and AZ, that will turn into a hot spot, but the northern tundra ... forget it.

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Buddha.

[yamahonkawazuki]

hell were blaming obummer for this, liek he was blaming bush for stuff that happened under carter. ( started under carter) hes as equal to blame as bush or anyone is. except for libya, that is his own illegal war lol

[The Buddha]

Obama isn't blaming bush, for carter initiated problems, AFAIK He's blaming surrent republicans in senate and congress.

IMHO carter is too far off ... I'll blame clinton for 1 part and bush gets the rest. 1 term presidents IMHO should not get much blame unless they are of the same ideology of the previous term. The speed of legislation and regulations around it etc etc are far too slow for a 1 term president to get any more than a couple years of laws through. It was even slower in the 70's.

Clinton claims credit for the 90's growth, I dont agree with that. The growth would have happened regardless of who was in the white house. Clinton set the grounds for real estate speculation, IMHO bush should have killed it but he inflated it. Of course bush was trying to get re elected, and pumping up Realestate was one way to keep unemployment down. Seriously Clinton started that in 98. Time to deflate it was pre 9/11.

Anyway demographics are set so that medicare/medicaid and SS are going to explode, you cant fix it by saying the current benifits wont reduce. The whole system is going to get scrapped. Or we print $ and keep printing till everyone gets paid - and the payments are capped @ what you have paid in, no paying 12 bucks and collecting 30 grand.

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Buddha.

[mister]

All countries with a welfar system or tax system are in the same boat. When boombers start retiring there will be a drain in tax-generated income and a demand for welfare type payments (pension, etc.) not to mention the downward trend of the stock market when the boombers want to cash in their 401k or superannuation or whatever else their retirement funds are called.

Of course, one way to reduce the effect is to increase the retirement age by another five years. The govt will know from stats that that will mean X number of fewer people as a certain number of them will have perished in that time frame.

Every market the boombers have gone through has flourished as they went through then declined as they moved on. Retirement homes and the like should be the next Big Thing.

Michael

[The Buddha]

Shhhhh michael, the occupy Idiots are walking to washington to protest something. I think they want like nicer corporations or something like that. And they should all wear designer clothes ... whatever is the gheyest @ the moment.

I think they are walking to washington state, ecause its the "evergreen" state. The dummies.

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Buddha.

[SAFE-T]

"One reason why the Occupy movement attracted so much attention...was an innate understanding that it possibly represented a new manifestation of political unrest. And although it didn't gain great momentum, it was closely scrutinized."

http://money.ca.msn.com/investing/deirdre-mcmurdy/the-new-investing-reality

[The Buddha]

I do think we need some kind of "occupy" like movement ... but the Occupy fools are right up there with the "legalize cannabis" clowns, rapidly becoming fringe ... I do think we need to tar and feather wall street ... sadly I will have to wait.
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Buddha.

[The Buddha]

The article I didn't read, but the sign says it all -

http://www.cnn.com/2011/10/05/opinion/rushkoff-occupy-wall-street/index.html

Yea you fell asleep ... for like 30 years ...

When you woke up your college debt was 300k and you had a degree in CSI science and there were 18 million just like you.

I dunno I somehow should feel sorry for em, but its more funny and pathetic ... I understand they are looking for work and not finding it - working @ McD's isn't an option cos McD isn't hiring in droves ... nothing will make a dent in the unemployment numbers really. Yea the federal govt can, if they could fund the needed infrastructure build/re building that is needed. But that means govt spending and more debt ...

Anyway in spite of all this reason to take their side, the whole idea of wanting to have their college loans waived ... that is simple freeloading. Anyone who didn't go to college due to $$$ or went and worked to pay it off, or used up mom and dad's life savings etc etc ... yea a big skrew you to them ...

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Buddha.

[SAFE-T]

If you pay off someone else's unpaid student loans, make sure you give me the money back I spent to pay mine off 

[bill14224]

I'm inclined to agree with Buddha.

[The Buddha]

If you pay off someone else's unpaid student loans, make sure you give me the money back I spent to pay mine off 

Right, and there is a lot more like you than them ... they're not the 99% atleast not in this aspect, they are less than the 15%.

The simple thing is ... no one should have been bailed out. Not the banks, not the people who bought 20 houses to "flip" ... the most important thing in dealing with stuff like this is to follow the rule of moral hazard.

If you grant citizenship to Illegals ... that will only cause the flood to increase ...

If you start rewarding people for stealing ... that will cause more theft ...

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Buddha.

[hawaiianGS]

If you pay off someone else's unpaid student loans, make sure you give me the money back I spent to pay mine off 

Right, and there is a lot more like you than them ... they're not the 99% atleast not in this aspect, they are less than the 15%.

The simple thing is ... no one should have been bailed out. Not the banks, not the people who bought 20 houses to "flip" ... the most important thing in dealing with stuff like this is to follow the rule of moral hazard.

If you grant citizenship to Illegals ... that will only cause the flood to increase ...

If you start rewarding people for stealing ... that will cause more theft ...

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Buddha.

Amen Brother!  Glad to know I am not the only one who can see the logic in this.

[The Buddha]

Oh well you're not ... I am glad I am not the outlier either ... however but for that bone headed idea - which frankly I heard over a month ago in 1 radio show ... I have not heard too many dumb things from that crowd ... they do lack a coherent message though, its more like throw this sheite out there and see what sticks ... some OK and some good and some great and some bad ideas ...

Of course the off shoot movements - like occupy asheville - supposedly they wanted to legalize pot ... WTF ... That is out of left field ...

Then there is the famous ... "I am occupying this place for 5 years ... I'm homeless, you fools show up and trample over my bed/cardboard and ruin my sammich that this nice lady gave me last night thinking if she gave me $$$ I'd buy booze ... Fruck You ... "

Apparently the occupy Idiots in some places have run the homeless out of their park bench ...

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Buddha.

[mister]

This guys sums things up nicely.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GmsCdyGD00

Michael