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What do you think the Occupy movement is about ?

Started by The Buddha, October 10, 2011, 09:09:42 AM

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The Buddha

In the old days though the politicians family farm was still there before he started campaining and will be there when he's done.
Now not only will his job be out sourced to China, his whole field will be done by machines.

He wont just need a job, he'd need a whole new field and probably never get back to his original situation.
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yamahonkawazuki

Quote from: madjak30 on December 08, 2011, 09:12:13 AM
I've often wondered why we don't have a flat tax system...everyone just pays 25%, no loop holes...but the graduated taxation system that we have is hard to justify in my opinion...the more you make here in Canada, the more you pay in taxes...you make a personal amount, which is tax free (if you don't make more than this, you don't pay taxes), then it jumps to 15%...then 22%...then  26%...then 29%...(these are just the federal taxes, there are still provincial taxes that are another 10%...)

Sometimes your raise puts you into the next tax bracket and you actually bring home less money...I knew guys that used to take every second Friday off, because their take home didn't change (actually was higher by $10 or something like that)...so really, unless you make a pile more money...there isn't as much incentive to make more...but I'm chasing my career, not just the money (although the money is nice  :icon_twisted: )

As for Buddha being so negative on the CEO & VPs...they have the stressful job of dealing with the shareholders and bean counters...not an easy task...and they need to bleed the company colours...so I really don't have a problem with them making the big bucks...you try and run a company without direction...it will work fine for a small company, but as you grow and diversify...all the "chiefs" want to go their direction and the company starts to get fragmented...that's where the value of good leadership steps in...

Capitolism does work...it may just need some fine tuning in the taxation department...I still don't get the sentiment of hating someone for doing well...it's America, the land of opportunity...go grab a handful!! (can't believe a Canadian has to tell you this... :flipoff: )

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the left wing and occutards, want all the benefits of those htey despise. aka hte ceo's , and dont want the work involved. they want mail room responsiblity amd ceo benefits. doesnt work liek this anywhere. unless you are doing something not morally right. my taxes went up under obummer. idprefer a flat tax as well. or a return to the gold standard. basicallyt run this country like a small business. spend no more than you make. anyhoo, i agree. theceo is responsible to me the shareholder. i bought oneshare of Govt motors after obama sold it to the unions. ( should have let them go bankrupt first, to void contracts.)THEN get involved. sicne they did this, hte stuimulus went to mexico. the tards want more money? you go after a promotion, you get mroe money, not enough? work harder.
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knowles

I believe that the occupy people should be given a day to leave all the places that they are staying then have the police cone in and move them, and arrest them and put them in with real criminals. These bunch of hippies are costs $10,000's a day. If they wanted a job they should have went into a trade. I worked through my a.a.s degree andhad o ly $6,000 on loans to pay off. work while your going to school. My brother has a a.a.s, bachelor's, and a master's degree, he only has $45,000 in loans. when my son gets older he is going to have to work while he goes to college. Bottom line you should go to college to learn more and get a degree, not like the movies where college is one big party I took 23 credits a semester and work 30 plus hours a week. It sucked but I got it done. If your life sucks then you have no one to blame but yourself. For 99% of people anyway.
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bill14224

Quote from: mister on December 04, 2011, 11:46:21 AM
I think this fits...

Ineptocracy (in-ep-toc'-ra-cy) - a system of government where the least capable to lead are elected by the least capable of producing, and where the members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed, are rewarded with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a diminishing number of producers.

Michael

We can call it whatever we want but it's communism/socialism, pure and simple.  Early communists learned that too many millions of people starve to death when you put them under a communist system immediately, so socialism was invented by Stalin to do it more slowly, to make it less horrible on its way to its eventual goal.  Say whatever you want but that's the record of socialism/communism.  It's brought more suffering, persecution, and death to more people all over the world than any disease, natural disaster, or anything else mankind has ever encountered.
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The Buddha

Quote from: knowles on December 10, 2011, 12:02:13 PM
I believe that the occupy people should be given a day to leave all the places that they are staying then have the police cone in and move them, and arrest them and put them in with real criminals. These bunch of hippies are costs $10,000's a day. If they wanted a job they should have went into a trade. I worked through my a.a.s degree andhad o ly $6,000 on loans to pay off. work while your going to school. My brother has a a.a.s, bachelor's, and a master's degree, he only has $45,000 in loans. when my son gets older he is going to have to work while he goes to college. Bottom line you should go to college to learn more and get a degree, not like the movies where college is one big party I took 23 credits a semester and work 30 plus hours a week. It sucked but I got it done. If your life sucks then you have no one to blame but yourself. For 99% of people anyway.

I am nearly sure the british thought of gandhi this way too.
I cant agree with the occupy but I dont agree with pepper spraying them either. Maybe enforce the rules of littering and what not that are in place, have a light police perimeter and what ever. Its their right to assemble in peace and yell and scream slogans ... cant deny them that. They however cant litter, block traffic or impede other activity.
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ghostrider_23

While I don't agree with pepper spray, it's a lot nicer than the firehose that use to be used on protesters.

Today is much more tame than back in the 60's and cops don't get away with as much now as they did back then either.

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The Buddha

Well I think there oughta be a national rule on the occupy thing.
Apparently in Charlotte they were thinking they found a loophole in the law and were going to "occupy" and then the loophole turned to be invalid. This sorta crap only encourages lawsuits.
Then a few weeks ago 4 punks - 17-19 yr olds burned the american flags near the occupy encampment, and the occupy people made it clear they were not part of the occupy.

Anyway the BS has to be streamlined. I dont think they should be dispersed, I think its time for Obama to show some leadership even if he may not agree with them, they do have a right (limited to where they dont impede others rights) to "occupy". And it cant vary from one city to another.

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