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Started by ghostrider_23, October 30, 2011, 08:24:23 AM

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ghostrider_23

How many of you have done something to you GS and regret doing it or did not turn out the way you expected it?

What did you do?

Knowing what you know now, would you have done it?

I am planning on changing out the exhaust, (in my opinion a must) and know that I will have to re-jet. I am not sure how to re-jet or the jets to use. So now I am thinking that maybe I should leave well enough alone.

Need some advise here, please.

Suzuki Stevo

Why is changing the exhaust a must, more noise or power??
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gtscott

being a mechanic, as i was learning i learnt something, If I realy do not have the confidence to do something, I have 3 options, don't do it (badish yet safe option as you never learn anything or get very far), Do it under supervision getting help with things your unsure of (good option as you get things done and you learn how for next time) or Rip it apart and see how you go (BAD OPTION as you will f%$k things up alot)
that being said, rejetting isnt to hard as long as you follow all the guides for it, look at the fsm, ask for advice, read over the guide again like 50 times, then if you think you can do it, go for it, if you need help ask someone, or if you think its to hard then leave it alone or pay someone to do it for you

ghostrider_23

Reasons for changing the exhaust:

I hate the shiny exhaust muffler on it.

I've heard other ppl's GS and like the sound a lot better than stock.

Reading over the threads, the exhaust is one of the Major mod's that will improve ones GS all around. (very restrictive)


bombshelter13

The answer is simple: PM Buddha, tell him what exhaust you're going to install and what air filter you're going to run, send him 25$ and you will get the jets you need.

Suzuki Stevo

The hard part to rejetting is getting the bank of carbs onto the workbench. Remove the seat, plastics, tank and airbox. Now label, take pictures, scribble hieroglyphs on parchment, do whatever it takes for you to get EVERY VACUUM/FUEL line back EXACTLY where it came from, sparing everybody the post about how you just removed your carbs and now your bike runs like compost.

Once the carbs are on the bench take your JIS screwdriver or small Vice-Grips and remove the screws to the fuel bowls. Once the bowls are off, the main jet is in the middle and the pilot is off to the side. THAT IS IT PERIOD!

SUZUKI GS500F 2004-2008

STOCK JET SIZE: These values are provided to assist in finding a starting point for jetting. Slight changes for regional variation may occur so the jets in different engines may vary. It is always good practice to confirm what jets are in the carburetor.
main jet 130
slow jet 17.5

Pilot Jet


Main Jet
 

SUZUKI GS500E 1989-2000

STOCK JET SIZE: These values are provided to assist in finding a starting point for jetting. Slight changes for regional variation may occur so the jets in different engines may vary. It is always good practice to confirm what jets are in the carburetor.
main jet 122.5
slow jet 37.5

Pilot Jet


Main Jet
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ghostrider_23

Suzuki Steve,

Thanks for the link and the advise. I have been spending all weekend reading up and searching threads, pictures, etc on how to re-jet.

For the Buddha, I have been waiting for him to get back to me. I think he is busy as I haven't seen him on here much. I know he is the know all for jetting and he has a muffler I am interested in. So for now I will continue to read and research and hopefully in a couple of weeks be ready to do the deed. :2guns:

Suzuki Stevo

As far as what jets to use all I know is you can take a bone stock GS500F and swap the #130 for a #132.5 main and swap the #17.5 for a #20 pilot, improving warm up and throttle response on a unmodified bike right off the showroom floor.
(No emission requirement for MC's in my state)

Start changing pipes and filters and your on your own  :dunno_black:
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ghostrider_23

#8
Thank you Steve, :thumb:

I gave you Karma points for your help. I think this may be where I will start until I get the pipe on.

What about spacer and turning screws 3 times etc?  This is where I get lost, where does this spacer go and what screw am I unsecuring?

Suzuki Stevo

Quote from: ghostrider_23 on October 30, 2011, 09:47:29 AM
Thank you Steve, :thumb:

I gave you Karma points for your help. I think this may be where I will start until I get the pipe on.

What about spacer and turning screws 3 times etc?  This is where I get lost, where does this spacer go and what screw am I unsecuring?
I have no experience shimming needles because I was happy with the jet change I made on my stock bike. Yes drilling out the brass plug and turning out the screws is an improvment, I set mine to 3 turns out and never looked back.
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ghostrider_23

Where did you gett the jets from???

Suzuki Stevo

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Ourea

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knowles

I have put jets, kn filter and jardine rt-1 exhaust. I love the sound and better performance that I have now. I also did a carb kit at the same time because I had a leaky carb. Get all the parts ahead of time set everything out take it slow. I took one apart at a time and then we able to look the other other one if I had any questions. If you have someone that would show you some stuff that would be the best. Just know your limits. And have fun
1989 GS 500EK

pertt-UP-

New tires really are slippery. I changed both tires last year and I knew they are slippery at first, but still lowsided on the first left turn on a T-junction.
'95

Phil B

Quote from: Suzuki Stevo on October 30, 2011, 09:41:48 AM
As far as what jets to use all I know is you can take a bone stock GS500F and swap the #130 for a #132.5 main and swap the #17.5 for a #20 pilot, improving warm up and throttle response on a unmodified bike right off the showroom floor.
(No emission requirement for MC's in my state)


What other side effects does that have, though?

Suzuki Stevo

#16
Quote from: Phil B on October 30, 2011, 01:43:08 PM

What other side effects does that have, though?

It doesn't hurt the mileage, if that's what your thinking. My jetting change with a +1 CSS I got 69.8 Mpg on one tank under ideal gas station to gas station conditions (Garmin GPS). 55 Mpg to 65 Mpg without even trying (open road), combination freeway/intown I could go 190-200 miles before I had to switch to Res. Before you say "BS my bike gets nothing close to that!" you have to remember I ride to RELAX, I take it easy to unwind. I don't rail like most clowns out there, so easy in fact, I haven't crashed or dropped a bike in 35 years, my numbers are legit. Just like when your fuel map for an injected bike is correct, you are then out of the carbs/TB's more, performance and mileage go hand in hand <<as told to me by Nels Byersdorf of http://2wheeldynoworks.wordpress.com/
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Adfalchius

Not so much MY regret (yet), as the PO did a fenderectomy before I got the bike...but while I was riding two weeks ago, BaltimoreGS was driving his cage behind me.  I kicked up a rock and cracked his windshield. 

Sorry, Jessie....but like you said "you better be glad it was me and not some [insert expletive and or mildly racist comment here] guy with a shotgun who would've gotten angry at you because of your fenderectomy".  Yes, I'm glad...but I also like my fenderectomy.

I think if a cop ever gives me a ticket for a mod...then I'll regret it.
1981 Honda CM200t
1995 Suzuki GS500E
2007 Suzuki DR200se

Phil B

Quote from: Suzuki Stevo on October 30, 2011, 02:51:13 PM
Quote from: Phil B on October 30, 2011, 01:43:08 PM

What other side effects does that have, though?

It doesn't hurt the mileage, if that's what your thinking.  (...)

okay then.. so what does it hurt?
Otherwise surely suzuki would have done it in the first place.
"There's no such thing as a free lunch". There are always tradeoffs. I'd just like to know what the negative part of the trade is. Anyone know?

Big Rich

Fuel emissions. A lot of bikes are sold with the intake on the lean side. At least, older bikes.
83 GR650 (riding / rolling project)

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