Video of my GS being crappy

[J_Walker]

2005 GS500f All stock. Can't figure out whats wrong, the more I google the more possibly it could be, have checked the carbs MANY times. everything LOOKS right.. cleaned and everything. so maybe someone with a good ear could figure this one out...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nx_zY30jTHA

[Dizzledan]

If you start a new thread, at least tell us what you think the problem is, and what the symptoms are.
Have you adjusted your valves?
How many miles on the bike?
When was the last time you watered your grass?

[xunedeinx]

Believe it or not, back a few years, my iron duke Fiero made that same exact sound, and than wouldn't run, and than magically started running.

Turns out, when I dropped the motor, I bent the spark plug connector on the coil, so at times, it would ark to the frame, and other times it'd be fine. When it was arching, it made that funny gallopy sound.

Check your wiresfor damage, go ahead and change out your plugs just to be safe (its cheap) and grab some carb cleaner and check for vac leaks around the vac lines if you still got them.

Betcha that'd fix it.

[Dr.McNinja]

First off, I'm guessing here because riding your bike by the camera does nothing for anyone. Start your bike on the center stand and record it there.

To me it sounds like the exact problem your having is your bike is stock. The GS500 is a PoS stock. Absolutely atrocious. The stock configuration is designed to reduce emissions (and fun). Your bike sounds like it's incredibly lean throughout the entire range which is exactly what the stock GS500 is designed to be.

Have you changed your sparkplugs? Check your plugs to confirm it's running lean. You can Google for a "color chart" for spark plugs to do matching with. Replace your plugs afterwards and try it again. Search the forum for the proper checking technique.

Once you confirm you're running real lean clean/rejet your carbs and test it again. My GS500 is running fine after installing K&N pods, a Dynojet Stage 1 kit, chopping out the cat/PAIR system, and installing a yoshi TRS exhaust. If you want precision take your carbs to be rejetted by a guy with the 500 dollar O2 testing tool. He'll dial your carbs in to your elevation/weather.

[J_Walker]

First off, I'm guessing here because riding your bike by the camera does nothing for anyone. Start your bike on the center stand and record it there.

To me it sounds like the exact problem your having is your bike is stock. The GS500 is a PoS stock. Absolutely atrocious. The stock configuration is designed to reduce emissions (and fun). Your bike sounds like it's incredibly lean throughout the entire range which is exactly what the stock GS500 is designed to be.

Have you changed your sparkplugs? Check your plugs to confirm it's running lean. You can Google for a "color chart" for spark plugs to do matching with. Replace your plugs afterwards and try it again. Search the forum for the proper checking technique.

Once you confirm you're running real lean clean/rejet your carbs and test it again. My GS500 is running fine after installing K&N pods, a Dynojet Stage 1 kit, chopping out the cat/PAIR system, and installing a yoshi TRS exhaust. If you want precision take your carbs to be rejetted by a guy with the 500 dollar O2 testing tool. He'll dial your carbs in to your elevation/weather.

Okay, you GIVE me the money and ill do this... And the spark plugs look fine! Almost PERFECT. PO took off my center stand, and my mom was watering the bushes, and didn't wanna be on camera, ALSO the popping doesnt happen much standing still. I'm sorry to disappoint you.

[xunedeinx]

Check your wires, replace your plugs (even if they LOOK fine, there could be something wrong. Its a 5 dollar proposition), and take some carb cleaner to your vac lines to check for leaks.

[adidasguy]

Okay, you GIVE me the money and ill do this... And the spark plugs look fine! Almost PERFECT. PO took off my center stand, and my mom was watering the bushes, and didn't wanna be on camera, ALSO the popping doesnt happen much standing still. I'm sorry to disappoint you.

So I guess you wanna buy a center stand, the 2 bolts and the 2 springs? You really need it to work on a bike and clean & lube the chain.

(Sorry to thread jack into a selling thread. People say I have a problem being a parts whore and just got another center stand yesterday in my parts haul.   )

TRY THIS: In neutral, unplug one plug. Note how bike runs. Plug back in wire and do other side.
Now, swap plugs.
Repeat.
Did each side seem to reverse how they ran? If so, it is the plugs. If each side still seems the same, then it is not the plugs.
TREY had a problem of a nearly new, perfect looking plug. That was his problem. Found out when swapping plugs. problem with to other cylinder!

based on this thread:
http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=58598.msg665859#msg665859

[Dr.McNinja]

First off, I'm guessing here because riding your bike by the camera does nothing for anyone. Start your bike on the center stand and record it there.

To me it sounds like the exact problem your having is your bike is stock. The GS500 is a PoS stock. Absolutely atrocious. The stock configuration is designed to reduce emissions (and fun). Your bike sounds like it's incredibly lean throughout the entire range which is exactly what the stock GS500 is designed to be.

Have you changed your sparkplugs? Check your plugs to confirm it's running lean. You can Google for a "color chart" for spark plugs to do matching with. Replace your plugs afterwards and try it again. Search the forum for the proper checking technique.

Once you confirm you're running real lean clean/rejet your carbs and test it again. My GS500 is running fine after installing K&N pods, a Dynojet Stage 1 kit, chopping out the cat/PAIR system, and installing a yoshi TRS exhaust. If you want precision take your carbs to be rejetted by a guy with the 500 dollar O2 testing tool. He'll dial your carbs in to your elevation/weather.

Okay, you GIVE me the money and ill do this... And the spark plugs look fine! Almost PERFECT. PO took off my center stand, and my mom was watering the bushes, and didn't wanna be on camera, ALSO the popping doesnt happen much standing still. I'm sorry to disappoint you.

You act like I was prepping celebratory pints for when you announced the popping occurs on the centerstand. Talk about overreaction. You have to spend money to fix a problem most of the time. A simple rejet costs less than 40 bucks if you buy from Buddha, carb cleaner is less than 5 dollars at your local auto parts store, plugs cost 5 bucks unless you get iridium plugs, cleaning carbs takes 3-4 hours if you're not used to it, and you can have someone rejet your carbs for less than 80 bucks if you look hard enough. Rejetting itself is fairly easy, having someone with the tool do it takes away the guess work. If you're not willing to put money and time into the bike you should sell it and buy a car.

[xunedeinx]

working on the bike is part of keeping her happy, and the motorcycle gods pleased.

You dont, and things go wrong, enough things go wrong, and it stop running.

Things cost money to fix.

Just buy a set of new plugs and some carb cleaner after checking the wires (which is free, minus some elbow grease), and start from there.

10 bucks will probably fix it

[Funderb]

it was pretty hard to determine anything on that video, what is the problem?

-are the carbs popping? (backfire)  then its either the coil, plug, vacuum leak post carburetor, or a clogged idle circuit.
follow this order:
plug check - they may look fine, but fail under compression. It happened to me
Coils are easy to check, is there spark? no? oh, replace them
vacuum leaks, you are on your own. just check all the applicable places.

other problems from this will be found under load. uneven, poor acceleration, stumble when the throttle opens, quickly degrading to unridable condition.

-pop on deceleration? its normal. The idle jet will not support running down from high rpm, and the exhaust will pop. it will not damage your bike. It just sounds kinda bad.

[J_Walker]

Okay, you GIVE me the money and ill do this... And the spark plugs look fine! Almost PERFECT. PO took off my center stand, and my mom was watering the bushes, and didn't wanna be on camera, ALSO the popping doesnt happen much standing still. I'm sorry to disappoint you.

So I guess you wanna buy a center stand, the 2 bolts and the 2 springs? You really need it to work on a bike and clean & lube the chain.

(Sorry to thread jack into a selling thread. People say I have a problem being a parts whore and just got another center stand yesterday in my parts haul.   )

TRY THIS: In neutral, unplug one plug. Note how bike runs. Plug back in wire and do other side.
Now, swap plugs.
Repeat.
Did each side seem to reverse how they ran? If so, it is the plugs. If each side still seems the same, then it is not the plugs.
TREY had a problem of a nearly new, perfect looking plug. That was his problem. Found out when swapping plugs. problem with to other cylinder!

based on this thread:
http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=58598.msg665859#msg665859

I just use a 2000lb car jack, 2x4 and some careful planning if I need to lube my chain :X I'm still confused why PO took off my center stand.. :/

[Twisted]

-pop on deceleration? its normal. The idle jet will not support running down from high rpm, and the exhaust will pop. it will not damage your bike. It just sounds kinda bad.

You think? I kinda like the snap crackle and pop on deceleration. It is about the meanest sound my GS makes.

[J_Walker]

A guy I met today offered to give me his stock jets from his bike, He has 4 sets considering that its a 4cly. He said they worked fine, just wanted to put bigger one's in, But I don't think they'd work in mine.. Idk. Also, I was curious on something.. his bike has something i've only seen on go-karts.. the air filters are connected right to the carbs. DUR I know. I mean its a spongy like piece that covers the holes of the carbs air side. Now ive seen this on gokarts MANY times never on a motorcycle before? or am I just under a rock? If I rejet- hopefully I can try this.. I think the only down side is that the air filters would get dirty faster from the dirt kicking up. Basically they cover where the boots would normally go.

[Kijona]

Okay, you GIVE me the money and ill do this... And the spark plugs look fine! Almost PERFECT. PO took off my center stand, and my mom was watering the bushes, and didn't wanna be on camera, ALSO the popping doesnt happen much standing still. I'm sorry to disappoint you.

So I guess you wanna buy a center stand, the 2 bolts and the 2 springs? You really need it to work on a bike and clean & lube the chain.

(Sorry to thread jack into a selling thread. People say I have a problem being a parts whore and just got another center stand yesterday in my parts haul.   )

TRY THIS: In neutral, unplug one plug. Note how bike runs. Plug back in wire and do other side.
Now, swap plugs.
Repeat.
Did each side seem to reverse how they ran? If so, it is the plugs. If each side still seems the same, then it is not the plugs.
TREY had a problem of a nearly new, perfect looking plug. That was his problem. Found out when swapping plugs. problem with to other cylinder!

based on this thread:
http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=58598.msg665859#msg665859

I just use a 2000lb car jack, 2x4 and some careful planning if I need to lube my chain :X I'm still confused why PO took off my center stand.. :/

So it wouldn't scrape the ground during cornering. If you're nice, I bet Adidas has an extra and would send you one for real cheap. You can also CAREFULLY set the bike on its sidestand and prop the rear swingarm on a jackstand from the right side of the bike. I know it shows a 2x4 but I prefer a jackstand - it has a cradle which better supports the bike.

Like this:

That's how I used to lube the chain on my KLR650 (and yes that is a KLR650). I'd be super careful though. If it feels unstable...don't do it. I have yet to try it on the GS.

[rayshon]

-pop on deceleration? its normal. The idle jet will not support running down from high rpm, and the exhaust will pop. it will not damage your bike. It just sounds kinda bad.

You think? I kinda like the snap crackle and pop on deceleration. It is about the meanest sound my GS makes.

Agreed, I like the popping as long as it's intermittent and doesn't sound like a machine gun

[J_Walker]

-pop on deceleration? its normal. The idle jet will not support running down from high rpm, and the exhaust will pop. it will not damage your bike. It just sounds kinda bad.

You think? I kinda like the snap crackle and pop on deceleration. It is about the meanest sound my GS makes.

See my bike never popped when I had got it.. than it started doing it. thats why I'm tryin to figure out wth is up.

Agreed, I like the popping as long as it's intermittent and doesn't sound like a machine gun

[adidasguy]

So it wouldn't scrape the ground during cornering. If you're nice, I bet Adidas has an extra and would send you one for real cheap. You can also CAREFULLY set the bike on its sidestand and prop the rear swingarm on a jackstand from the right side of the bike. I know it shows a 2x4 but I prefer a jackstand - it has a cradle which better supports the bike.

I kinda hinted at that, but didn't want to do a thread-jack. How much did you bet that I had one? Do I get a cut of that?
Some people remove them to save 2 pounds. If you want to save 4 pounds: replace your lead acid battery with a LiFe one. 1 pound .vs. 5 pounds. You need a center stand. The superior battery is also nice to have.

[J_Walker]

I know I know, I just can't afford nothing now.. TRUST ME adidasguy, I'd have 200+ dollars in stuff from you by now if I had the money! Once I can get some, I'm gonna become your biggest fan.

[Twisted]

Idk. Also, I was curious on something.. his bike has something i've only seen on go-karts.. the air filters are connected right to the carbs. DUR I know. I mean its a spongy like piece that covers the holes of the carbs air side. Now ive seen this on gokarts MANY times never on a motorcycle before? or am I just under a rock? If I rejet- hopefully I can try this.. I think the only down side is that the air filters would get dirty faster from the dirt kicking up. Basically they cover where the boots would normally go.

You mean pod filters? A lot of bikes run these.

[J_Walker]

Idk. Also, I was curious on something.. his bike has something i've only seen on go-karts.. the air filters are connected right to the carbs. DUR I know. I mean its a spongy like piece that covers the holes of the carbs air side. Now ive seen this on gokarts MANY times never on a motorcycle before? or am I just under a rock? If I rejet- hopefully I can try this.. I think the only down side is that the air filters would get dirty faster from the dirt kicking up. Basically they cover where the boots would normally go.

You mean pod filters? A lot of bikes run these.

Didn't know what they were called. I'm stupid. about 4 hours of sleep in the last 36 hours. Please.. do excuse me.