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bombsquad83 · February 18, 2012, 12:02:30 PM

Quote from: adidasguy on February 18, 2012, 11:39:19 AM
I see you have the wrong battery in your bike.
The drain belongs on the right side. When you put the bike on the center stand, your drain is on the low side - causing acid to drain out.
Maybe now is the time to replace that with the correct battery - and maybe a better one.

You'll definitely want a battery with the vent on the correct side with a drain tube. Otherwise you will end up with battery acid on your frame, eating into the paint and corroding everything it touches.

adidasguy · February 18, 2012, 12:34:36 PM

You can see the problems are just beginning on this bike with the wrong battery. Parts bike - but only 9 months with the wrong battery. Corrodes the bike and battery won't last because the acid is dripping out. That's the ignition control box right there getting acid on it.

Kijona · February 18, 2012, 12:43:47 PM

I've had very good luck with the Everstart AGM batteries from Walmart. AGM batteries are sealed and do not require any maintenance. One sat in my DL1000 for over 9 months without being used (after being in the bike for several years),

The best part of it is that the Everstart batteries are pretty darn cheap...last I looked in Walmart, they were $55.

gsJack · February 18, 2012, 01:49:21 PM

My experience with the left side battery vent as opposed to stock right side vent hasn't been a problem. On my 97 GS all my replacement batteries were the more commonly available left vent 10L-A2 type instead of the oem 10L-B2 type. The drain hose was a nice tight fit so I just let it hang down freely to somewhere near the swingarm. Never had a problem with it for the remainder of the 80k miles I put on that bike. Got a bit fancier with my 02 GS and ran the hose from the left side vent over to the right side of the bike and down to were it was intended to come out and no problem with those either for about 70k miles when I switched to sealed AGM batteries with no vent, on my second AGM now and will stick with them. The scorpion AGM is about the same price as the Walmart one and is a proper fit.

http://www.batterystuff.com/batteries/motorcycle/sYT10L-A2.html

Rubicon · February 18, 2012, 08:36:01 PM

Heres the battery

I guess i may op for the scorpion that you showed me GSjack.

What are the drain hoses you mention:P ?? There are no openings/hoses to the battery:( excuse my battery noobness

bombsquad83 · February 18, 2012, 08:51:08 PM

If my bike was together I would take a picture for you to show you the tube and the routing. The vent tube we are talking about should go from the vent on right side of the battery, through the hole on the outside of the battery box, down the inside of the frame and then clipped on the outside of the bike draining just behind the engine on the right side of the bike.

http://www.ronayers.com/Fiche/TypeID/26/Type/BATTERY/MakeID/2/Make/Suzuki/YearID/34/Year/1993/ModelID/7106/Model/GS500E/GroupID/307498/Group/BATTERY

Part number 4 in this fiche

adidasguy · February 18, 2012, 09:21:06 PM

Wow! That's exactly the same WRONG battery that my parts bike has!

Rubicon · February 18, 2012, 10:32:33 PM

I see now! Yep its definelately on the wrong side! Well, i guess thats one more things to add to the list

bombsquad83 · February 18, 2012, 11:05:34 PM

When I got my bike, it was not only on the wrong side. It was also too tall, so the seat wouldn't sit down where it should.

adidasguy · February 18, 2012, 11:13:41 PM

Quote from: bombsquad83 on February 18, 2012, 11:05:34 PM
When I got my bike, it was not only on the wrong side. It was also too tall, so the seat wouldn't sit down where it should.

Saw that one, too. One member in West Seattle bought his bike with the wrong battery. He wondered why the seat didn't fit right. Battery too tall and drain on the wrong side. He got one of my batteries and everything fit. I had some fairly new batteries on the shelf because I had put Shorai's in my bikes.

Amazing what some previous-owners do for batteries and other stuff just to save a dollar or two. Causes more problems down the road.

gsJack · February 19, 2012, 08:57:21 AM

If Rubicon's battery is still good I see no reason why it needs replaced when all it needs is a drain hose down to the bottom of the bike and it's probably best to run it out on the right side where the air box and gas tank hoses drain.

A properly filled battery is not going to overflow with the bike sitting on the sidestand (and certainly not when on centerstand as suggested above), might if grossly overfull though. Bike is leaned far more in turns than when placed on sidestand and to the right as well as the left I hope.

Battery will be tipped left same amount as it's tipped right with same left or right lean angles. Could be you kids are leaning a bit farther than I am now a days although I've done a bit of leaning thru the mountain twisties not too long ago with my left side drain batteries and without spilling my acid.

bombsquad83 · February 19, 2012, 12:22:18 PM

I agree Jack. I probably would have kept the battery and just run the vent tube differently if the battery wasn't also too tall.

Rubicon · February 20, 2012, 07:49:01 PM

I'll fiddle around to see what i can do, the tube is nowhere to be found on the bike, its almost like evident that they purposefuly took it out:*(
I would assume by some hose though than a new battery, becuase theres no way this battery is more than 6 months old.

Routing it would prove probematic.... maybe i can just diligienty clean the thing with a coke mix? Ugh ya that sounds nasty and problebly would be to healthy for me to do on a regualary basis, but hey, were talking a whole Ulysses Grant here

Any hows, carb kit on the way, i visited a bunch of colleges this weekend and today, just gona twiddle my thumbs till thursday......

Rubicon · February 28, 2012, 10:20:34 PM

Hey guys.
Carb kit came yesterday, and i took things apart today. I just have some general carb questions i guess.

This above image is from the Poor Man's Rejetting pictorial. Why do you need to take out the pilot air screw?

^^^^that little O ring on the float needs replaced right?^^^

^^does this look right to you?lol^^^^

My K&L kits only came with this one jet that holds the float needle, shouldnt there be some more? or will this suffice?

^^ so far, the carbs dont seem to be all that dirty. All the rubber was in good shape, though the replacements cant hurt. There hasnt been much notable buildup of nasty sludgy stuff.

I beleive that the cause of the shitty idle/poor start of my GS may be something wayyyyy simpler: The dirty air filter --- Please give me your 2cents on this. Im sure the thing is the original (meaning its 22 years old), and the only thing i can compare what it feels like, is that it feels like pudding. yeah. thats the closest sensory detail i can conjure.

Thanks!

Things

Rubicon · February 29, 2012, 06:55:06 AM

checked out the wiki .. lots of cool possible airbox configurations. What do you guys think?

Rubicon · March 05, 2012, 08:50:14 PM

Hey guys, I've hit the wiki and forum books and learnt alot about carbs and air filters the last week.
I ordered a HifloFiltro (3rd party) stock air filter, and the carb cleaning is going really smooth. I only get about 30 minutes a day before it gets to cold to work in the shop, but progress is being made!

I put 2 coats of rattle can primer, sanding in between, and all i can say is wow. like, i never would have imagined something could look that pro from a spray can!!!!

Ok, for my new golden question:

1 of the carbs is completey cleaned, jets were are in "good, clean shape"

I open other carb, and i am reasurred the bikes idle problem was carb-related. It was straight up nasty. I got the main jet sparkling clean, but the pilot jet was stripped of its poor head. I'm not sure if the previous owner did this or if i was dozing and did it then realized, but the pilot jet is not coming out by ordinary means.

You guys have any ideas on how to pull a stripped pilot jet out?
Also, since i will more than likely have to order i new pilot jet(stock), should i just go ahead and order the 3 other jets?

Thanks guys!!

bombsquad83 · March 05, 2012, 09:02:47 PM

You could try a left hand bit. I actually have a couple extra that you could try if you sent them back when you are done.

mitch79 · March 06, 2012, 02:43:41 AM

Try heating the carb body. Aluminium expands faster than brass. Obviously strip it of anything plastic or rubber first.
About 15min in an oven set to 200c should work nicely. Use a small pair of vice grips if the head of the jet is striped out.

Jets are really hard to clean properly by hand. I'd take the opportunity to replace all four of them whilst the carbs are apart. Stock jets are lean anyway, going a little richer will help you with easier starting and a better idle, especially with your cold weather. Stock jets are pilot 37.5, main 122.5. From the wiki you want pilot 40, main 125. http://wiki.gstwins.com/index.php?n=Upgrades.Rejetting

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