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Who can loan me 4 grand?

Started by Watevaman, April 22, 2012, 05:21:18 PM

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Watevaman

Bike: 1990 GS500E (Vance & Hines full system, K&N Lunchbox, BM Clubmaster bars, Katana rear shock, 0.90 Sonic Springs), 2000 ZRX1100 (Kerker slip-on)
Location: Virginia

Big Rich

The prince of Nigeria would love to help you out - just needs some personal info first..........

Awesome bike!
83 GR650 (riding / rolling project)

It's opener there in the wide open air...

Roxtar

nice!
I'm a bit confused by the kick-start though... looks trapped behind the fairing.

... I have the money for this, but not the storage space
2009 GS500F

ojstinson

Will you take a counter check, I have a drawer full of those? 
I'm not a racist, some of my best friends are you people.

Electrojake

It's interesting how every man has his dream bike or what they would consider a "sweet" machine.
A 77 CB750F2 decked out as a CR750 is indeed "special taste" and I bet it would fit in your garage rather nicely!

Sorry I can't help you with the $4000. Keep in mind; I too ride a GS500.
Current Stable: Suzuki DL1000k6, a Grom, two 70's vintage PUCH mopeds, and my kid's WR250R

Kijona

Let me point out a few things here. First of all, unless he's using rust colored chain lube, the chain has already begun to "fret". It's toast.

Also, isn't that fairing DANGEROUSLY close to the exhaust pipe? Has it ever even been ridden with that fairing? - Upon further inspection I noticed the fairing is indeed metal - still, it's going to heat up like nobody's business and there's no telling how long the paint or whatever it's coated with will last being THAT close to the exhaust. Might just be my neigh-sayer attitude, though. Dunno.

Next point...he claims he has to sell his bikes because he doesn't have time anymore...yet he then turns around and says he'll trade for a sport tourer? Um...okayyyy...

Unless he hasn't ridden it in a while (possible but unlikely), the lack of chain maintenance is a sign that he likely did very little maintenance - was probably slack about changing oil, etc..


yamahonkawazuki

Quote from: Kijona on April 22, 2012, 07:19:10 PM
Let me point out a few things here. First of all, unless he's using rust colored chain lube, the chain has already begun to "fret". It's toast.

Also, isn't that fairing DANGEROUSLY close to the exhaust pipe? Has it ever even been ridden with that fairing? - Upon further inspection I noticed the fairing is indeed metal - still, it's going to heat up like nobody's business and there's no telling how long the paint or whatever it's coated with will last being THAT close to the exhaust. Might just be my neigh-sayer attitude, though. Dunno.

Next point...he claims he has to sell his bikes because he doesn't have time anymore...yet he then turns around and says he'll trade for a sport tourer? Um...okayyyy...

Unless he hasn't ridden it in a while (possible but unlikely), the lack of chain maintenance is a sign that he likely did very little maintenance - was probably slack about changing oil, etc..
couldnt see the chain to tell if it were rusty . what little i could see didnt look too bad. some chains rust quickly, some do not. chain on my goped does . so its lubed daily. almost daily on 3 of my gs' as well
Jan 14 2010 0310 I miss you mom
Vielen dank Patrick. Vielen dank
".
A proud Mormon
"if you come in with the bottom of your cast black,
neither one of us will be happy"- Alan Silverman MD

Big Rich

How do you figure the fairing is metal?
83 GR650 (riding / rolling project)

It's opener there in the wide open air...

yamahonkawazuki

Quote from: Big Rich on April 22, 2012, 07:58:45 PM
How do you figure the fairing is metal?
im trying to figure how whomever figured the chain was rusty
Jan 14 2010 0310 I miss you mom
Vielen dank Patrick. Vielen dank
".
A proud Mormon
"if you come in with the bottom of your cast black,
neither one of us will be happy"- Alan Silverman MD

Big Rich

Agreed. Maybe a little bit dry, but I didn't see any rust.

Kijona - if that fairing is metal, I would be amazed. That would mean it was hand made and took hours upon hours to do. Airtech sells that fairing (or one very similar) made from fiberglass. And when he said he didn't have time for this bike, he probably meant this "vintage" bike. Old bikes generally require more upkeep to maintain.

While there are definitely flaws in this bike, I wouldn't mind throwing a leg over it.
83 GR650 (riding / rolling project)

It's opener there in the wide open air...

shonole

Quote from: yamahonkawazuki on April 22, 2012, 09:21:40 PM
Quote from: Big Rich on April 22, 2012, 07:58:45 PM
How do you figure the fairing is metal?
im trying to figure how whomever figured the chain was rusty

Did you click on the ad?  Next to last photo is a close-up of the chain.
2004 SV650n - Blue

Kijona

"You say it will never happen, but then you have kids, have no more free time, and have to sell your bikes. . . I can't believe I've become "that guy". " - from the ad. I don't know what he means but it is obvious he wants to get rid of his bikes but also wants to trade. I guess you're right, he COULD mean he doesn't have time to mess with old bikes anymore but that wasn't the impression I got.

I'm looking really hard at that picture of the chain, I really cannot seem to tell if it's rust or some funky colored chain lube that was put on sparingly. I don't know. Especially considering its location on the chain, I'd say it's rust.

The fairing looks metal - look at the closeup of it - the hole looks like a hole in metal not plastic or fiberglass. Also, how could it be ½" from the header and not melt if it WASN'T metal? I know fiberglass and some plastics can withstand a lot of heat but holy crap. Additionally, the lines look a little rough like it's custom made. Meaning worth less. Custom made stuff (aka homebrew) doesn't bring more in the bike market. Sure, it looks good but is it worth $4000? I think not.

I'd take it for a ride too but I'd never pay more than $2000 for it. If he really expects to get that much he should try selling it somewhere other than Craigslist.

Kijona

Also, as far as not seeing the photos...it may be that he recently updated and added more pictures. Dunno  :dunno_black:

Twisted


Big Rich

Wow. Thanks for the wonderful display of ignorance.

I'm on my phone so even a close up wouldn't reveal the material of the fairing. But like I said, I would be amazed if it was any other material. They make heat shields for their fairings and other products for just that type of application. All of Airtech's products are "custom made" and they say they will need fit to each application. So that's probably what he did.

And custom made (or home brew) does not always equal crap. Well built items can and very often do raise the price of a bike. Find out how much a normal CB750 costs, then add up the cost of the fairing, tank, seat, custom paint, and anything else on that bike. I bet it gets real close to his asking price or even over. Just because it's not your "thing", doesn't mean you have to examine every little detail.
83 GR650 (riding / rolling project)

It's opener there in the wide open air...

codajastal

I am not interested in anything you have to say
Don't bother talking to me, I will not answer you

Kijona

Quote from: Big Rich on April 23, 2012, 12:13:34 AM
Wow. Thanks for the wonderful display of ignorance.

I'm on my phone so even a close up wouldn't reveal the material of the fairing. But like I said, I would be amazed if it was any other material. They make heat shields for their fairings and other products for just that type of application. All of Airtech's products are "custom made" and they say they will need fit to each application. So that's probably what he did.

And custom made (or home brew) does not always equal crap. Well built items can and very often do raise the price of a bike. Find out how much a normal CB750 costs, then add up the cost of the fairing, tank, seat, custom paint, and anything else on that bike. I bet it gets real close to his asking price or even over. Just because it's not your "thing", doesn't mean you have to examine every little detail.

Whoa...hey man take it easy. I never said that custom or home made was crap - I just was pointing out that it doesn't really add value to the bike. Hell, OEM "options" never really add value - appeal yes, but value? Not really. The bike is worth what a normal CB750 is worth - in the world of selling and buying motorcycles you can't expect to recoup money spent on a bike such as that one. Custom lights, fairings, etc. etc. mean nothing in my opinion and I feel most would tend to agree. Just because you add a $1200 Ohlins shock to a bike doesn't mean you can add $1200 or even $600 to what the bike would be worth stock. People just don't care about that from my experience.

I just think the guy is asking a little too much, might not be being completely honest (it is CL after all), and may have not been the best about maintenance. I'm sorry if I wasn't clear or came across the wrong way. I know custom bikes like that hold a special place in your heart and I wasn't trying to offend you.

dougdoberman

Quote from: Kijona on April 23, 2012, 01:25:49 PM
Quote from: Big Rich on April 23, 2012, 12:13:34 AM
Wow. Thanks for the wonderful display of ignorance.

I'm on my phone so even a close up wouldn't reveal the material of the fairing. But like I said, I would be amazed if it was any other material. They make heat shields for their fairings and other products for just that type of application. All of Airtech's products are "custom made" and they say they will need fit to each application. So that's probably what he did.

And custom made (or home brew) does not always equal crap. Well built items can and very often do raise the price of a bike. Find out how much a normal CB750 costs, then add up the cost of the fairing, tank, seat, custom paint, and anything else on that bike. I bet it gets real close to his asking price or even over. Just because it's not your "thing", doesn't mean you have to examine every little detail.

Whoa...hey man take it easy. I never said that custom or home made was crap - I just was pointing out that it doesn't really add value to the bike. Hell, OEM "options" never really add value - appeal yes, but value? Not really. The bike is worth what a normal CB750 is worth - in the world of selling and buying motorcycles you can't expect to recoup money spent on a bike such as that one. Custom lights, fairings, etc. etc. mean nothing in my opinion and I feel most would tend to agree. Just because you add a $1200 Ohlins shock to a bike doesn't mean you can add $1200 or even $600 to what the bike would be worth stock. People just don't care about that from my experience.


Some people don't, some people do.

Somebody just looking for a random motorcycle who doesn't know any better likely doesn't care and won't pay a premium.

Someone looking for a nifty cafe racer would likely pay a premium for this Honda.

I'm more than willing to pay a slight premium for parts that I know I'd be adding anyways.  Id'a happily paid another coupla hundred bucks if the GS I just bought had come with a full exhaust and springs. 

There are smart buyers who know what they're looking for out there.   If you (as a seller) can afford to wait for the right buyer to come along, you'll definitely get your premium price. 

If you can't be a good example, at least try to be a horrible reminder.

Kijona

Quote from: dougdoberman on April 23, 2012, 05:00:47 PM
Quote from: Kijona on April 23, 2012, 01:25:49 PM
Quote from: Big Rich on April 23, 2012, 12:13:34 AM
Wow. Thanks for the wonderful display of ignorance.

I'm on my phone so even a close up wouldn't reveal the material of the fairing. But like I said, I would be amazed if it was any other material. They make heat shields for their fairings and other products for just that type of application. All of Airtech's products are "custom made" and they say they will need fit to each application. So that's probably what he did.

And custom made (or home brew) does not always equal crap. Well built items can and very often do raise the price of a bike. Find out how much a normal CB750 costs, then add up the cost of the fairing, tank, seat, custom paint, and anything else on that bike. I bet it gets real close to his asking price or even over. Just because it's not your "thing", doesn't mean you have to examine every little detail.

Whoa...hey man take it easy. I never said that custom or home made was crap - I just was pointing out that it doesn't really add value to the bike. Hell, OEM "options" never really add value - appeal yes, but value? Not really. The bike is worth what a normal CB750 is worth - in the world of selling and buying motorcycles you can't expect to recoup money spent on a bike such as that one. Custom lights, fairings, etc. etc. mean nothing in my opinion and I feel most would tend to agree. Just because you add a $1200 Ohlins shock to a bike doesn't mean you can add $1200 or even $600 to what the bike would be worth stock. People just don't care about that from my experience.


Some people don't, some people do.

Somebody just looking for a random motorcycle who doesn't know any better likely doesn't care and won't pay a premium.

Someone looking for a nifty cafe racer would likely pay a premium for this Honda.

I'm more than willing to pay a slight premium for parts that I know I'd be adding anyways.  Id'a happily paid another coupla hundred bucks if the GS I just bought had come with a full exhaust and springs. 

There are smart buyers who know what they're looking for out there.   If you (as a seller) can afford to wait for the right buyer to come along, you'll definitely get your premium price.

I suppose you're right...things are only worth what someone is willing to pay. Sure, you MIGHT find somebody that's willing to pay that much for it. What I was saying is that you can't expect a premium because in the world of cars/motorcycles etc., custom stuff doesn't add value. Most people don't care about that, as far as I'm concerned. It's just a very specific market.

The Buddha

I believe the dustbin fairing was made to cover the kick starter, on these bikes the kick starter will turn backward flip and it will at that time be outside of the dustbin fairing.
Cool.
Buddha.
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