Gun Owners?

[Kijona]

I do like kel tek stuff the sub 2000 and the cool looking shotgun they do with the 2 tubes

I'm trying to decide on a next purchase between the sub-2000 and the HK MP5 A5.  The question is which comes first, the toy that's cheap as hell to shoot, or the tool that's 2-3 times as expensive to shoot.  I want them both 

The H&K is a piece of crap, just letting you know. The parts feel cheap and we've gotten two that broke after only 2-3 days of being in the store. One had the charging handle completely break off, another the threads stripped on the "suppressor" which, by the way, is just a pipe covering a very thin and crappy looking barrel.

[slipperymongoose]

Started re finishing my Mauser stock today. Varnish stripped off, now steaming out the wood dents

[wayne242]

http://www.remingtonle.com/rifles/7615.htm

Wouldn't use one.

[slipperymongoose]

I've been recently advised to Stay away from post naughty remmy 700's as the quality has dropped off something shocking.

[Kijona]

I've been recently advised to Stay away from post naughty remmy 700's as the quality has dropped off something shocking.

Also heard the same thing. Savage rifles are far better (trigger, barrel, smoother action, etc.) for about the same price (+/- ~30 bucks).

[steezin_and_wheezin]

Well I'm gun-less now, but not for long! I traded the .44 special straight for a Suzuki FZ50, and just this weekend I traded the Bersa .380 plus a little cash for a Honda MB5.

Looked at a new SAR B6P yesterday, and think I may pick it up this weekend. Brand new with an extra mag for just over $300. It fits my left handedness much better than the bersa which i had planed on keeping. Its a clone of the CZ-75, and i've heard only good reviews about it. Especially for the price they go for.

Here's the Sellers photo;

[steezin_and_wheezin]

Got it out on the range yesterday. Fits my left handyness much better than the 380 or 44. Really liking it, but only got to shoot 20 rounds yesterday. Got to stock up on some 9mm ammo now

[adidasguy]

9mm under 30 cents is now pretty common.
LAX new and reloads are really good. I buy them a lot and never have a FTF. 

http://www.gunbot.net/ammo/9mm/

Now with Herters I get FTF's with 45 long colt and a friend the same with other calibers. We will use up what Herters we have and never buy again.
Iconsistent firing of Fedral .22's (and a few FTF's).  results in some stove pipes in Buckmark due to weak charge - not enough power to push action back and fully eject case.

[john]

I will trade 9mm for some .22

[slipperymongoose]

Stock is repaired and sealer is on. Ready for the sanded in oil finish

[adidasguy]

This pissed be off a little.
3 out of 75 rounds. i wrote to the ammo company. Curious to see what they haveto say.


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[Janx101]

.45 LC? ... thats classic old/overworked brass IIRC .. 

[adidasguy]

They say once fired brass. also very unusual. They asked for pictures and what gun was used (2 month old new Henry Big Boy) to rule out the gun.

[yamahonkawazuki]

Gun is NOT  at fault. You dont use crappy ammo my friend, may i ask what ammo it was? Also make sure b
arrel wasnt harmed

[adidasguy]

The Henry Big Boy is a very strong, thick barrel. If it was the Pietta revolver, it could have cracked the cylinder (thin walled for .45's in a cylinder that diameter).
The company is very concerned about it. LAX Ammo. I never had any problems with their ammo. If they find a problem with over loading the rounds or some other production issue, then they will recall the batch. They do new and reloads (supposed to be once fired brass). It is a rather large, reputable company with automated equipment. Not a home-business or hand re-loader business.

[Janx101]

Once fired? ... Only if the previous load was a big one! ... But I reckon whoever is turning brass into them for reloading might just be slipping a few many fired cases in! ...

With a good tumbler machine you can turn old cruddy brass into shiny newish looking stuff ... Last time I saw case cracking that bad though was on WWII era .303 cases ... Used about 15 years ago! ... That bloke was THE tightass of the century when it came to ammo! ... 

.. Edit ... Looking at the case pic again though . ... They may be a reputable company ... But who loaded the cases?.. Contractor? ... Mouth of cases not even/poorly chamfered, different types of brass, inconsistent crimping, I think the one on the left has been tumbled/cleaned? ... Which also hardens the brass.... Not the company fault directly perhaps.... But that's really crap QC!!

[adidasguy]

Reputable company. Has their own machines.
They get brass that is supposed to be once fired. Crimp depends on brand of brass.
They offered to replace it with new.
I said I'd run another test and let them know so I know if it is a fluke or production  problem. never had a problem with their reloads before.
Or maybe someone slipped in multi-reloaded brass.



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[Janx101]

i dont have facts and figures (for those that want such things) ... but ... those 3 cases... once fired? .. nope!! .. not even close.... even the 2 Winchester headstamps.... could be around a decade or more apart in production...

.. again... if they have their own machines and all onsite yeah cool... not directly their furphy.... but someone is slipping old brass into bulk lots... probably in an effort to clear their own old stocks ...

... cracking of that type... 'can' happen in new brass with imperfections... but its very uncommon... even more so considering the brands of cases to start with!

[mister]

Once fired

Odd thing though, that 3 different production run shells should all suffer the same fate. So is probably a reloading glitch on Their machines which is highlighting the multi-fired brass.

As a curiosity, what is the cost difference between their reloaded stuff and new stuff?

[Kiwingenuity]

Once fired? doubt it - more like powder too warm in a case that has been fired at least 20 times.. Mister is right, someone hasn't set something up right on the reloading line - it is possible they forgot to lube the cases before they sized them and work hardened the brass (not that it would be an issue with once fired brass).. but never the sight you wish to see.

I have a frustrating issue at present - my beloved FN medallist .22 semi is not feeding properly.  I have cleaned it from top to bottom, checked all the springs, checked all the parts for burrs, even swapped the clip out for one of my brothers (his FN works just fine with my clip). it has a new firing pin, and it keeps picking up a round and jamming it up at an angle into the receiver.

I had our club armourer / local tame gunsmith look over it for me - he has not been able to trace any mechanical fault with the gun (it is built like a swiss watch and he is German so it was difficult getting it back from him), so I am suspecting the ammo may have something to do with it.  This weekend will see me off to the range with:

• Winchester T22
  
• Winchester super X
  
  • Winchester subsonic
    
  • Winchester supersonic
    
  • CCI minimag
    
  
  I have tried Remington, colibri and a few others already - just be nice to get a group in without a jam.
  
  It will be nuisance if I have to use something really expensive, club ammo is $5 a box here, and the stores usually charge between $9-20 odd for non mainstream brands.
  
  If anyone has had this issue - the FN150/medallist/challenger/nomad was the forerunner to the browning buck mark - would be interestingt to know if anyone has had this issue and if they resolved it.
  
  For now I am using my Ruger KMK-10, but it is a bit heavy for one handed shoots with the 10" bull barrel.. It thankfully has never jammed however.