Gun Owners?

[yamahonkawazuki]

weve sold quite a few of those bersas, btw addy where you finding that 22lr?, we order thousands of rounds of 22, mainly cci blazer

[adidasguy]

I could get all 10 shots off in a few seconds with that ruger. Down under they sell for around a grand

It uses standard Ruger magazines. I've seem 25 and 30 round magazines in the store. I think someone makes a 100 round drum for Ruger's.

Yama - here in WA you can have private sales. It is fun to browse the ads and see what people have for sale.We have some good arms message boards with for sale sections, where to shoot, gun smithing, tips, gun law sections and other areas. Interesting to read and browse.

[yamahonkawazuki]

I could get all 10 shots off in a few seconds with that ruger. Down under they sell for around a grand

It uses standard Ruger magazines. I've seem 25 and 30 round magazines in the store. I think someone makes a 100 round drum for Ruger's.

Yama - here in WA you can have private sales. It is fun to browse the ads and see what people have for sale.We have some good arms message boards with for sale sections, where to shoot, gun smithing, tips, gun law sections and other areas. Interesting to read and browse.

yup i enjoy the FTF sales. usually id get a copy of dl if i was selling, or buying, and a written bill of sale. a CMA if you will. ( cover my a**)

[adidasguy]

It was interesting today. Sunny, so I went to the police range. Nice because hardly anyone goes there. Though today was VERY crowded - I think 5 of the 32 pistol stations were used. For a while there was even a supervisor/instructor there! Got a few tips.

Talked to people and it seems that those that know of the Bersa Thunder know it is a really good, inexpensive concealed carry gun. Otherwise, they have never even heard of Bersa.

Ammo supply is weird. .223 is like pallets of it. .22's sell out as fast as anyone can get them. Tons of .45acp. One store now has 9mm brass at $14 a box of 50. Some stores have no 9mm at all. 30-30 is impossible to find in the stores. Has to be ordered. Even the police range didn't have any. Lots of other oddities. Though for the most part it seems like the ammo shortage is easing up. You can find .22's under a dime. Probably everyone has 100,000 rounds stored for the zombies and have run out of storage space so they stopped buying and now there is more for the rest of us.

Do you Ausie's have ammo problems or is it so regulated and expensive you don't shoot much?

Anyone have a a Springfield 9mm EMP? It looks pretty cool - a miniature 1911.
http://www.genitron.com/Handgun/Springfield-Armory/Pistol/EMP/9-mm/Variant-1

[adidasguy]

I'm ready. Just I don't have anything that shoots .223 so I guess I throw the box at the zombies.

[Kiwingenuity]

Well it has been an interesting weekend - finally got a morning off at the range to try sort of my FN150..

Lets start with the good - scored a nice set of wooden grips for my MK II.. $30.. not a bad score (I must get a dam scope on this thing)


Now I went along to try sort out my FN - has been jamming like no tomorrow.. At first I had assumed it was the clip since it has been dropped probably more than once in its life, and the wall of the mag has been straightened. After borrowing my brothers mag, same issue.. Tried all flavours of ammo, same.. then I thought about the fact the firing pin had been replaced.. when it had been re-crowned.

Low and behold, I think I found the culprit after a few jams - classic fail to feed - seems the spring that returns the firing pin to its seated position is a bit marginal.. Took a lot of rounds to catch it in the act.


Now I just have to track down a firing pin and firing pin spring for a firearm that was manufactured in 1969.. If anyone knows a good FN / Browning dealer who is happy to ship to NZ, please let me know..

[mister]

Do you Ausie's have ammo problems or is it so regulated and expensive you don't shoot much?

We can get whatever ammo we need. That's because we don't panic buy and run out supplies 

Although, primers are hard to come buy in large quantities 

If it comes to American Made, it is harder.

For example, the Colt 1911 in 9mm is made by Umarex, shipped by Walther (both German companies) and branded Colt. So no supply issues. But, any Ruger 22lr pistol is not available and not even the importer knows when they will be getting any - but they think at least 12 months as Ruger is flat out fulfilling US orders for all kinds of semi-autos.

Cost of ammo, while more pricey than in the US, isn't bankrupting.

Eg. Only $7 or so for a box of 50 Winchester Power Points (22lr) and $67 for a brick. $60 for a brick of CCI 40gr standard. While you can get those buckets of 1,400 for around $80 from memory. Though 17HMR has maybe jumped five bucks or so from around $24 a box of 50 to around $29 - but it's odd cause you can get it for $22 a box in one brand and $29-ish in another, for essentially the same thing as it all comes from the same factory   

But go to a different store and you can get a brick of CCI for $39 and 5,000 for $320. While a brick of 17HMR is had for $165.

Centerfire is obviously more pricey. Look around and you'll find 223 for $30 for 50, but usually $15-$39 for 20 depending on brand. Price of a brick of this is up around the $300 mark. Some brands over others under.

Strangely, there was a little difficulty getting some airgun pellets in a few years ago as Europe was panic buying them and the factories were at full capacity just to keep up with That demand. But no issue now.

Sounds to me like you need to get yourself a 223 so you won't have to throw the box of ammo at Zombies and can shoot them instead. 

[mister]

Now I just have to track down a firing pin and firing pin spring for a firearm that was manufactured in 1969.. If anyone knows a good FN / Browning dealer who is happy to ship to NZ, please let me know..

You might have better luck getting a new spring made for it. Hit up the NZ Air Gun forum. I was going to suggest http://www.nzairgunners.com but the forum seems to be down - shame cause there is a LOT of info there.

Why airgunners? Cause when they Tune their Springers they often get the spring remade and changed out with the old spring. And they would know Who can make a new spring for cheap.

[Janx101]

Now I just have to track down a firing pin and firing pin spring for a firearm that was manufactured in 1969.. If anyone knows a good FN / Browning dealer who is happy to ship to NZ, please let me know..

You might have better luck getting a new spring made for it. Hit up the NZ Air Gun forum. I was going to suggest http://www.nzairgunners.com but the forum seems to be down - shame cause there is a LOT of info there.

Why airgunners? Cause when they Tune their Springers they often get the spring remade and changed out with the old spring. And they would know Who can make a new spring for cheap.

That's a good idea! .... 

I'll ask around a few people also though .... My old boy knows a 'few' browning type people ... 

[Kiwingenuity]

Would be great to know if someone "knows someone" - I have already made contact with the gunsmith who actually made the new firing pin - it may be that it needs a good polishing.  That being said, I could always do with a spare or two 

The club armourer also indicated he may know someone in the EU that is willing to send "sewing machine parts" like springs and such.. 

[yamahonkawazuki]

kiwi, lmk I may be able to track down some sewing machine parts.

[steezin_and_wheezin]

This one is real pretty.

Limited edition in matt black & gold.

That thing does look pretty nice! I had the first .380 that bersa came out with, the old model 98. It was a fun gun to shoot, but didn't fit my left handyness. It had a right handed thumb rest on the left grip. Great for right handers, but it was directly under my pointer knuckle when aiming to shoot lefty. I would like to try their newer Bersa Thunder, i've heard a bunch of good reviews on it

[Kijona]

Do you Ausie's have ammo problems or is it so regulated and expensive you don't shoot much?

We can get whatever ammo we need. That's because we don't panic buy and run out supplies 
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Nice dig at Americans...allow me to throw one back:

Americans are afraid of the country becoming like Australia and THAT'S why people ran out and bought everything up. In fact, Australia is a common example used when people make the argument about gun laws and their ineffectiveness.

[adidasguy]

Time to impose a ban on umbrellas.    

Large umbrella triggers lockdown at Issaquah schools

ISSAQUAH, Wash. -- Three schools in Issaquah were briefly in lockdown Monday afternoon after someone reported what appeared to be a man with a long-rifle walking onto the campus of Issaquah High School.

Students and faculty at the high school, along with nearby Clark Elementary and Issaquah Middle School were told to stay in their classrooms as a precaution while police searched the campus.

A short time later, investigators located the man in question and it turned out he was a school district employee carrying a large umbrella, Issaquah police said.

[yamahonkawazuki]

Do you Ausie's have ammo problems or is it so regulated and expensive you don't shoot much?

We can get whatever ammo we need. That's because we don't panic buy and run out supplies 
[...]

Nice dig at Americans...allow me to throw one back:

Americans are afraid of the country becoming like Australia and THAT'S why people ran out and bought everything up. In fact, Australia is a common example used when people make the argument about gun laws and their ineffectiveness.

seems to be the in thing to do Eh?, bashing americans lol. even Bîtching betty enjoys that once in a while.

[codajastal]

Nice dig at Americans...allow me to throw one back:

Americans are afraid of the country becoming like Australia and THAT'S why people ran out and bought everything up. In fact, Australia is a common example used when people make the argument about gun laws and their ineffectiveness.

And I wouldnt have it any other way

[Janx101]

It's not bashing ... More mental torture ... Which I believe the Geneva convention has views on?!?

Lucky the twins page doesn't do 'convention' 

[tcmia]

What is the opinion on one of these stainless colt king cobra in 357 magnum?

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[Janx101]

Needs more barrel for accuracy with max loads... 

Apart from that ... Nice!

[adidasguy]

Is that single action or double action?
357 magnum loads pack a tremendous recoil. I've shot them in a Pietta single action revolver with a longer barrel.


Things that shoot 357 magnum can shoot 38 special. Much less kick. Still more kick than a 9mm or 380acp.

Why 357 magnum other than TV shows? That's why I did have a Glock 9mm - that's what came to mind because of TV. Hated it and sold it.

Buying for fun or personal defense? Do you need 357 magnum for that? If PD, then 9mm semi-autos are good because they are easier to conceal. 9mm is enough for PD and so is 380acp. Lots of choices there. With less recoil from 9mm or 380, you can get the next shot off much faster and with more accuracy. Popping in a new magazine takes a second or two where reloading a revolver takes longer.

9mm is much cheaper - now down to $14 a box of 50. While 357 magnum is double the price. If you're going to practice a lot, that's something to consider.

There is really nothing wrong with that gun. I think we can give more opinions (and we can give opinions until the sun don't shine) when we know
1. Purpose for it? Plinking, PD, both, raccoons or?
2. How do you plan to carry it? Concealed, holster, purse, backpack, bike carrier or?
3. Ammo cost .vs. how much you will shoot it .vs. what you can afford to spend