Gun Owners?

[yamahonkawazuki]

Whiskey   Tango   Foxtrot. that is sickening.

[adidasguy]

How, HOW!!!?? is this ok?    >:(This has me in a bit of a foul mood!

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2014/01/27/ABC-News-Has-Two-Handguns-Placed-On-Table-Tells-Kids-There-Is-Candy-On-The-Table

OK. Guns not loaded. It was a test to see what kids learn in a safe, controlled environment. We blow it out of proportion. It was a SAFE test. How do you know if kids pay attention and learn if you do not test them? If they didn't learn, then review your teaching on gun safety.

And as for private gun sales.....

They are done everywhere - legal or not. Just ask a criminal on the street.

However here in Washington where it is legal, most all advertise on recognized gun sites (seaguns.net and waguns.org) or armslist.com
I find all want a WA DL because sales across state line s are illegal. Most want to see your carry permit. Everyone I have dealt with first talks about guns for a while- to get a feeling of who you are and your mental state. For me, most all sales happen right in my office - a safe, controlled space. If they don't like it then no sale or purchase. Above board sales. Publicly advertised. Works very well.

[mister]

Oh Yama, forgot you asked about Cost as well as time... All prices are rough and for ease of math, not the precise costs...

Membership of rifle club - $80
Safety course - $100
Weapons License - $88
PTA - $33
Passport photos - $10

Total = $311

PLUS... all firearms MUST be stored in a secure container which either ways 150kg+ or is bolted to the ground or both. BUT, handsguns the secure storage MUST be metal and MUST be bolted down. So factor in the cost of said container as well.

All firearms are registered to your Weapons License. No private sales UNLESS handled through a dealer who will fill out the necessary paperwork so the gun can be transferred from the seller's license to the buyer's license.
After your first rifle, subsequent PTA costs $33 and can be obtained in a week or even less.

[tialloydragon]

Membership of rifle club - $80
Safety course - $100
Weapons License - $88
PTA - $33
Passport photos - $10

Total = $311

Exercising your un-infringed Second Amendment Rights=  Priceless

[Soloratov]

Exercising your un-infringed Second Amendment Rights=  Priceless

They are not here in the States, so they were not promised that right from the beginning like we were...as far as I know. I could be wrong. The reason this is such a touchy issue for me is just that, we have a nice document outlining the basic definition and laws our GOVERNMENT must abide by, and they are coming up with any reason to get around it, with the help of the weaker citizens persuaded by fear and propaganda. This does not apply simply to the second, but also the 1st, 4th, 5th, 6th and ESPECIALLY the 9th Amendments to our Constitution are constantly being pushed pulled and broken down to please ignorant and self righteous people. IT'S SICKENING!

[slipperymongoose]

Try 250+ for your 5 year first time license

[yamahonkawazuki]

Try 250+ for your 5 year first time license

oye

[mister]

Try 250+ for your 5 year first time license

oye

Here's the list of fees payable in my state http://www.police.qld.gov.au/programs/weaponsLicensing/fees/fees.htm $234.00 for first five years - firearm license fee of $29.15 times five + License Application fee of $88.25 = $234. So the actual First time total isn't $311 like I said but $457.

See, they don't make it illegal, just discouraging. Put a few hoops to jump through and a nice chunk of change and see what happens. And what happens is... people still flock to get their firearm license each year.

[Roxtar]

Try 250+ for your 5 year first time license

oye

Here's the list of fees payable in my state http://www.police.qld.gov.au/programs/weaponsLicensing/fees/fees.htm $234.00 for first five years - firearm license fee of $29.15 times five + License Application fee of $88.25 = $234. So the actual First time total isn't $311 like I said but $457.

See, they don't make it illegal, just discouraging. Put a few hoops to jump through and a nice chunk of change and see what happens. And what happens is... people still flock to get their firearm license each year.

ouch!
as a comparison, I just bought a stripped lower receiver so I can build one of those evil black rifles.
$27 covered all of the paperwork and the dealer's transfer fee. background check was completed in seconds, and I walked out the door with it.
no required training
no required licensing
just show some ID, fill out a form, and be on your way with your new weapon.

[adidasguy]

Penn &Teller ongun control...

http://bearingarms.com/penn-teller-gun-control-is/

[mister]

Try 250+ for your 5 year first time license

oye

Here's the list of fees payable in my state http://www.police.qld.gov.au/programs/weaponsLicensing/fees/fees.htm $234.00 for first five years - firearm license fee of $29.15 times five + License Application fee of $88.25 = $234. So the actual First time total isn't $311 like I said but $457.

See, they don't make it illegal, just discouraging. Put a few hoops to jump through and a nice chunk of change and see what happens. And what happens is... people still flock to get their firearm license each year.

ouch!
as a comparison, I just bought a stripped lower receiver so I can build one of those evil black rifles.
$27 covered all of the paperwork and the dealer's transfer fee. background check was completed in seconds, and I walked out the door with it.
no required training
no required licensing
just show some ID, fill out a form, and be on your way with your new weapon.

20 years ago, or so, in our state you could walk into a gun store, show your driving license and walk out with a rifle. My how things have changed....

[yamahonkawazuki]

Try 250+ for your 5 year first time license

oye

Here's the list of fees payable in my state http://www.police.qld.gov.au/programs/weaponsLicensing/fees/fees.htm $234.00 for first five years - firearm license fee of $29.15 times five + License Application fee of $88.25 = $234. So the actual First time total isn't $311 like I said but $457.

See, they don't make it illegal, just discouraging. Put a few hoops to jump through and a nice chunk of change and see what happens. And what happens is... people still flock to get their firearm license each year.

ouch!
as a comparison, I just bought a stripped lower receiver so I can build one of those evil black rifles.
$27 covered all of the paperwork and the dealer's transfer fee. background check was completed in seconds, and I walked out the door with it.
no required training
no required licensing
just show some ID, fill out a form, and be on your way with your new weapon.

20 years ago, or so, in our state you could walk into a gun store, show your driving license and walk out with a rifle. My how things have changed....

last year when our president mentioned the word gun control, we sold 64 pieces around a thou apiece in 2 hours. so around 1098 plus checkout fee of 10 = a good day. so do slip thru the cracks, but for the most part all is well

[Badot]

And we STILL don't have .22lr ammo regularly available. It's amazing how much these threats to increase gun control scare people into buying more.

[weedahoe]

I added a new piece to my collection. I bought a Springfield XD 40 sub compact yesterday. Really small and light.

[Roxtar]

I have the XDm .40 compact. it's a little bigger, but I really like it.

just bought a build kit for the stripped lower I got last week
http://palmettostatearmory.com/index.php/ar-15-05/lower-build-kit-sale/psa-str-lower-build-kit-black.html

[Soloratov]

Being that I am stuck in the ultimate commie state, I have been been looking at one of these beauties:

Mossberg MVP Patrol 5.56/.223


OR

Kel Tec SU-16 A/B/CA


Since we were recently informed that all our evil assault rifles were illegal, I needed an excuse to use the existing hardware and ammo I have. So, these guys use standard AR-15 mags. Both are 5.56/.223. I'm leaning toward the Mossberg however...I have a soft spot for bolt action. I like the precision...however, the thrill of semi auto is great. With both coming in around the same price it will come down to which I can get easier as they are both a bit hard to find.

[mister]

Speaking of Springfield... local guy buys a XDM9mm 5.25. They come with 3 mags down here - yeah, plus the holster and two mag holder. Anyways. Normal XD mags are like $60 each. He said, he's been calling around for XDM mags cause the XDs won't fit. And he's being quoted $180 per mag 

My immediate thought was... shoulda bought a Glock  - their mags are interchangable from Gen 3 to 4, unless you want to have the mag release on the left, in which case only a Gen 4 mag will do.

I keep meaning to ask him but forget so I'll ask you Springfield folks. Do you ever get your webbing pinched buy the grip safety?

[mach1]

Ill add my collection

Mossberg 715t Flat top .22lr
Kahr CW9 9mm
Rock River Arms LAR458 .458 SOCOM
S&W M&P15 .223
Savage Axis .308

[Roxtar]

Speaking of Springfield... local guy buys a XDM9mm 5.25. They come with 3 mags down here - yeah, plus the holster and two mag holder. Anyways. Normal XD mags are like $60 each. He said, he's been calling around for XDM mags cause the XDs won't fit. And he's being quoted $180 per mag 

My immediate thought was... shoulda bought a Glock  - their mags are interchangable from Gen 3 to 4, unless you want to have the mag release on the left, in which case only a Gen 4 mag will do.

I keep meaning to ask him but forget so I'll ask you Springfield folks. Do you ever get your webbing pinched buy the grip safety?

never had that happen to me.

as for magazines, I'm not sure about the legality of shipping them internationally, but you can get the big 9mm xdm magazines here for under $30 US.

http://www.slickguns.com/product/springfield-mag-9mm-19rd-stainless-xdm-xdm5019-3681-shipped

[adidasguy]

Look at the Springfield EMP. Really sweet! Hard to find because once someone has one, they rarely get rid of it. All new design of the 1911 but at about 80% of the size. Perfect for carry and other uses.

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