Carbs are the devil...

[Winghnut]

i'm struggling with my carbs.  i put new jets in my bike and it wouldn't start.  i got it close to starting but just wouldn't turn over.  finally, after some more research i realized that i had bleeding jets in.  so i put everything back together as it was and it still doesn't run.  i've taken out the spacers, put the old jets back in, hoses are correct to kerry's fuel line info...the only thing thats different is the pilot air screws which is currently at 2.75 out.  
Any ideas what to do next?

[scratch]

Welcome to GStwin! I had the same prob when I jetted mine, I just put it together and waited til the parts came in (I have a car). I know, bad me. I would suspect that the mixture screw needs to be screwed back in; I'd put it back to 1.5 turns and check the idle screw to 1.5 turns also. Other than that, I finally get to use this icon! :dunno:

[nicebelair]

are u in chico california?
if so thats my home town, damn i wish i were there :x

[Winghnut]

thanks for responding so quick. i ran out right away and dialed it in as you said. although it still did start running, it was turning over...so it is closer.

yeah i'm here in chico, CA for school. i'm liking your hometown. its a good place.

[Winghnut]

well, my bike is still not runnign. after taking everything apart (again), i have a couple questions.
1.  my 'stock' jets are 122.5 and 37.5. is that uncommon?
2.  where should the clip on the needle be for those jets?
thanks guys

[mwdbruno]

Welcome to the board...afraid I can't be any help on the carbs...but I'm just down the road from you in Vacaville/Fairfield area.

Again wlecome        

[scratch]

1. Yep, those are quite common to CA due to emissions restrictions.
2. Clip for the needle!? Is your bike really a stock '96? Just for kicks, I'm gonna guess that you lucked out and got adjustable clip jet needles, and suggest 2nd from the top, because I think all the 2001 & '02's are running that.

[Winghnut]

i put 'stock' in quotes because i don't think it is. the pilot air screw plug had already been removed and i do have an adjustable clip jet needle. right now the clip on the second from the bottom...so i'll try changing that tomorrow. thanks for the help and welcoming me on the page.

[Winghnut]

...i had to take it to a shop - its been over a MONTH!  

[The Buddha]

Yea... send me your carbs... I'll sort it out and send back to you. BTW your choke is open when you try to start it???. and the idle screw needs to be a bit open too. And it isn't turning over previously... is the battery charged up. Maybe it turning over now but not strong enough to strat it.
Cool.
Srinath.

[Briggs]

An adjustable needle with stock mains and pilots, sounds very strange to me. I know that the DJ jet kit needle has adjustable needles. I had a hell of a time tunning with DJ so I eventuly stopped using them and switched to all miquni parts. if you are using a DJ needles with miquni mains you will probably have alot of trouble because DJ uses there own marking system for the mains and it dosn't correspond to the miquni system. Also the taper on DJ needle is such that when combined with miquini parts will cause a very rich mixture.

[The Buddha]

It will start though... run like crap maybe but start yes... Might be the Gino bike syndrome... new plugs... and it never strated, old plugs... bam it ran great. But this one may not have the choke on, or weak battery or no spark or no gas supply.
Cool.
Srinath.

[Winghnut]

:guns: i have no idea whats up with my bike...well thats obviously why its in the shop. i think you're right...there's something odd about stock jets and adjustable needle. it ran like a typical stock GS before i started messing with it and stopped running as soon as i looked at the carbs in wrong way. it did backfire on occasion and sputter but definitely not running. i kept the battery charged with a trickle charger while all this was going down so i'm pretty sure it had the juice.

how is a DJ needle different that any other? is there something noticeably different?

the latest update is that they're waiting on some parts. so after my bike being down since before thanksgiving and in the shop for over a week, hopefully monday my bike will be coming home...running!  
thanks

[The Buddha]

Dynojet needles are significantly thinner especially in the lower 1/2 inch or so... that would be the lower part as it sits in the bike, making it richer in the top 1/2 of throttle opening. At the low end It wont affect anything. And yes the shop is up to their blind squirrel methodology or replacing parts at random... in the hope it will fix it. How do they care... you're paying for it. Atleast tell them to save up and give you the old parts... I am sure they are good and useable. Anyway... if it fails to work send the carbs to me. I'll fix it and send it back. DJ needles will let the bike strat and run just fine. If anything they will solve your over 1/2 throttle lean problems from the factory. Lower end will be un affected for the most part.
Cool.
Srinath.

[Winghnut]

well, the shop called today; bad news.  
after they rebuildt the carbs, one of their guys tried to start the bike for the better part of an hour. no luck. he then went on to check the compression. the bad news is that the compression was really low. so they called me and said due to the low compression the bike isn't running. so they're checking the valves right now.

does this make sense to anyone?!?!  :dunno:
my bike was running just fine; no smoking, smooth throtle repsonse...the only thing that was bothersome was stalling RPM's and cold starts, nothing major. then i try and jet the carbs and nothing works. i'm so damn frustrated!!  :x

any ideas about whats happening? my only other idea is to pay a priest to preform an exorcism on my bike.