Farkling unbelievable spark plugs!

[Saiman619]

Can you define "more responsive" in some objective terms?

0-60 times faster?   0-30?  0-10?

Are you telling me that my throttle is "unresponsive"?

I would gladly do the blind taste test with you......think you can really tell the difference?

Cookie

The difference between flooring the gas pedal in a 1990 camry vs 2012 camry.  That's the best way I know to describe it.  The other set of plugs I had in were only a few weeks old and I do believe that I could tell the difference blind.

[twocool]

OK...I'm not really up on my Camry's...I'd assume a 2012 is faster than a 1990?

I mean if you said the difference was like that of a Camry compared to a top fuel dragster....well then...

I'm working out a blind test that anybody can do, by themselves.......only cost is the two sets of plugs (which you have already) and the gas to run the course (which will be your normal weekend run, or daily commute or whatever).....so the cost is nothing...and the time is what you would already be doing.....

the only "rub" is you have to somehow randomly select the pairs of plugs, without looking at them...and also install them without looking at them, or the plugs you are removing.....sort of blind mechanic....

Of course, those of you who actually have "friends" could get the friend to assist in the random selection and installation........

Then there is a bit of time required for record keeping..probably 5 parameters, with 5 choices each..

like:
terrible,
fair,
good (average),
great,
fantastic......
or
runs rough,
slight roughness
runs like stock,
runs smooth,
runs like a Swiss watch,

I'm going to do 10 runs of my weekend commute....about 180 miles each ...so its gonna take 5 weeks altogether......

The parameters are still kind of nebulous:
so far:

1)Smoothness "feel"
2)Throttle response "feel"
3)Acceleration "feel
4)Overall impression and "feel
5)Gas mileage

I'd also like to do an exhaust gas analysis....


Anybody else interested in running similar tests...or have a better way to set up a fair objective blind test?

Cookie

Can you define "more responsive" in some objective terms?

0-60 times faster?   0-30?  0-10?

Are you telling me that my throttle is "unresponsive"?

I would gladly do the blind taste test with you......think you can really tell the difference?

Cookie

The difference between flooring the gas pedal in a 1990 camry vs 2012 camry.  That's the best way I know to describe it.  The other set of plugs I had in were only a few weeks old and I do believe that I could tell the difference blind.

[twocool]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzZeyc0m1Iw

Cookie

[twocool]

http://www.lxforums.com/board/f164/mods-face-off-result-brisk-lgs-spark-plugs-56217/

Cookie

[codajastal]

twocool,
Not trying to offend but NO-ONE FUKKING CARES!!!!!!!!!!!
Those that have used them have found them to have improved the bikes running. Thats it FULLSTOP

[NortwestRider]

Wow really. !!!!!!


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[twocool]

Take a chill pill......If you don't care, OK.

Interesting that when you "call" somebody on a fantastic claim...they become defensive and belligerent.  (but don't offer anything to the actual discussion)

If you want to discuss...OK discuss.....If you don't care, don't discuss...(but if you don't care, why do you even bother reading the posts?)

Many people ARE interested...that is why this topic went to 14 pages.....also Internet has thousands of posts and questions re. Brisk.

Cookie

twocool,
Not trying to offend but NO-ONE FUKKING CARES!!!!!!!!!!!
Those that have used them have found them to have improved the bikes running. Thats it FULLSTOP

[NortwestRider]

This forum is very difficult to figure out,there are so mamy members that seem to want to pick fights and argue!!.Since I have a GREAT local resource for all my GS questions and  problems I think I will just sit back and watch for awhile and decided wether or not to stick around..Over on the OTHER GS forum I have NEVER seen anything like all this negativity !!.Really takes all the fun out of it now doesn't it !!.


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[codajastal]

The "selling" was the feeling that people thought I was trying to sell them because they kept insisting that I give test results and "hard facts".
Bull. I like them. That's enough. Others like them.

Sorry Cookie - you want tons of data and I no longer care. I don't have time nor the desire to do comparative tests or dyno runs. Buy a pair and try them. Your time in all the postings has probably cost you (or the company you work for) far more in labor costs than the price of 2 Brisk plugs ($34 a pair .vs. bout $14 a pair for others). You want to look deeper: they are not that expensive. Buy a pair and please do your own tests.

Now if I can just remember where I found the place selling the extended mixture screws for Mukini BST33ss carbs.
Though in my search I did fine this SUPER write upon our carbs.
http://faq.f650.com/FAQs/CarbMiscFAQ.htm#Alternative%20Carb%20Parts:

(never mind on that - called Factory-Pro and ordered 3 sets of them. I will report later to start yet another endless "prove it" thread.)

Twocool,
As adidas stated above he was just informing those interested that they were available and seem to have a marked increase in performance.
It has absolutely NOTHING to do with what you said below

Interesting that when you "call" somebody on a fantastic claim...they become defensive and belligerent.  (but don't offer anything to the actual discussion)

Many people ARE interested...that is why this topic went to 14 pages.....also Internet has thousands of posts and questions re. Brisk.

Cookie

It went to 14 pages because you HIJACKED the thread and wont stop with your testing talk etc.

If you want to do a test then do a test and stop talking about it on someone elses thread.

Start you own BRISK test thread and stop hijacking this one which started out an an information only thread with one persons view and not anything to do with marketing etc. That way all the people that want to discuss it with you can do so on your thread.
Again it has nothing to do with arguing? I read this thread because it interested me up until you started  with the constant arguing/discussion about testing.

[codajastal]

This forum is very difficult to figure out,there are so mamy members that seem to want to pick fights and argue!!.Since I have a GREAT local resource for all my GS questions and  problems I think I will just sit back and watch for awhile and decided wether or not to stick around..Over on the OTHER GS forum I have NEVER seen anything like all this negativity !!.Really takes all the fun out of it now doesn't it !!.


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I am not trying to pick a fight at all?? I am just reiterating what you said below?

I must have missed something,I didn't see where anybody was trying to sell these plugs only people saying THEY found some improvement by useing them.I don't really think the OP could give a S$@;" if anybody agrees with him he's posting what HE found when useing these plugs !!.I love Suzuki's always have and always will but I could care less if anybody agrees with me or not !!.


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[NortwestRider]

So when somebody finds something they like be it bike parts,food,something for there house ETC,sit back and say
" thats cool brother,glad you like it "
The world would ( and this forum ) would ne a better place !!


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[codajastal]

So when somebody finds something they like be it bike parts,food,something for there house ETC,sit back and say
" thats cool brother,glad you like it "
The world would ( and this forum ) would ne a better place !!


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I have no idea what you are saying here and if its directed at me but if so then you have me pegged so far off its not funny. Please go back and read what I posted.
I am saying that adidasguy/Patrick started this thread as an information thread about his view on the Brisk plugs and I happen to agree with his findings as I have also bought them to use in my bikes and found the same results. I just believe that the testing discussion of Twocool should be taken to his own thread for those that care and I believe Pat would and already has agreed?

[Phil B]

Then there is a bit of time required for record keeping..probably 5 parameters, with 5 choices each..

like:
terrible,
fair,
good (average),
great,
fantastic......

words like that are only appropriate for marketing, or psychological profiles.

they dont belong in a serious, objective test.

[Zwerski]

I like turtles!

[twocool]

Phil,
you are right on...........

People are judging this product subjectively.......OK for what it is worth..


I want to take it to the  level........

How to you quantify such parameter such as "feel"....?

Cookie

Then there is a bit of time required for record keeping..probably 5 parameters, with 5 choices each..

like:
terrible,
fair,
good (average),
great,
fantastic......

words like that are only appropriate for marketing, or psychological profiles.

they dont belong in a serious, objective test.

[twocool]

All I can say is "rough crowd man"...If  you don't toe the party line, watch out....

But really, don't that this crap too seriously!

Cookie

This forum is very difficult to figure out,there are so mamy members that seem to want to pick fights and argue!!.Since I have a GREAT local resource for all my GS questions and  problems I think I will just sit back and watch for awhile and decided wether or not to stick around..Over on the OTHER GS forum I have NEVER seen anything like all this negativity !!.Really takes all the fun out of it now doesn't it !!.


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[GI_JO_NATHAN]

Looks like the only way to settle this is to get a GS, some normal plugs, iridium plugs, and some brisk plugs, a camera, and a dyno.

For the people that have actually bought and used them, there's nothing to settle.

Not sure what there is to settle here ??.One guy likes his Brisk plugs,ok great he's happy end of story !!!!!!!.


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This.

[jestercinti]

I'm an auditor.

Whenever I talk to someone at work they ask "Am I being audited?". To which I reply "no, not today. Had this been an actual audit, it would be followed by news and or additional instructions."

Sad that I have to say that just to say hello to someone.

[Phil B]

I'm an auditor.

Whenever I talk to someone at work they ask "Am I being audited?". To which I reply "no, not today. Had this been an actual audit, it would be followed by news and or additional instructions."

I would have said, "If this were an actual audit, I would have started by saying 'assume the position'"

If they ask what position, I would have replied 'bend over'

[ned from PA]

Has it ever occured to folks that in a multi-electrode spark plug, the spark will take the path of least resistance?  So, given four ground tabs facing one center electrode, only one spark will result, not four. 

Long ago, my optimistic nephew told me I would get 10% better mileage in my Ford F-250 if I switched to platinum plugs.  I took the bait and installed the plugs.  No difference in either "performance" or mileage resulted.

The only physical explanation for Brisk plugs working better IMHO is that the plug protrudes farther into the cylinder and that there is no ground tab to obstruct it from the cylinder's charge.

I just swapped my old NGK plugs for brand new NGKs and noticed no change in performance.  Installing a K&N Lunchbox, however, made a huge improvement (because my carbs had Level-3 Dynojetting with the stock airbox which was totally starving my engine of air).

Ned