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Started by BRadGS, October 03, 2012, 03:42:51 PM

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ohgood

Quote from: BRadGS on October 03, 2012, 03:42:51 PM
Quick and easy question....
What type, brand, and viscosity oil do you use in your bike?

YAY ANOTHER OIL THREAD !!!!!


i only, and i mean ONLY use
















whatever falls off the shelf into my basket










and / or is cheapest.  O0


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burning1

Quote from: BRadGS on October 03, 2012, 04:04:41 PM
Reason I ask...
I can turn a wrench, however primarily only done so on cars/trucks. Same basics and have no problem doing repair/maintenance. My Uncle took his bike to the shop today for the clutch slipping. They told him that due to the oil he was using (Valvoline 10w40) that it is not designed to use for wet sump situation on clutches. Now his clutch needs replaced.  I did not see anything regarding this in my Clymer manual prior to using it in my bike (which I just changed the oil in as well and used Valvoline as this is what I run in all my vehicles). Want some insight on this so I know if I need to change my oil again.
Any feedback is appreciated.
Thanks.

Find a different shop; the one your uncle is using has no f%$king idea what they are talking about. You'd be *very* hard pressed to find a 10w40 that would cause slippage on a clutch that wasn't already failing.

More likely, the clutch lever or associated components are out of adjustment, preventing the clutch from fully engaging. This is a relatively common problem on the GS500.

bsheppar

Here's another thumbs up for Rotella T Triple Protection. Been running it in my gs for 22k miles without issue and in my 94 yz250.
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adidasguy

Quote from: burning1 on October 04, 2012, 12:49:58 PM
Quote from: BRadGS on October 03, 2012, 04:04:41 PM
Reason I ask...
I can turn a wrench, however primarily only done so on cars/trucks. Same basics and have no problem doing repair/maintenance. My Uncle took his bike to the shop today for the clutch slipping. They told him that due to the oil he was using (Valvoline 10w40) that it is not designed to use for wet sump situation on clutches. Now his clutch needs replaced.  I did not see anything regarding this in my Clymer manual prior to using it in my bike (which I just changed the oil in as well and used Valvoline as this is what I run in all my vehicles). Want some insight on this so I know if I need to change my oil again.
Any feedback is appreciated.
Thanks.

Find a different shop; the one your uncle is using has no f%$king idea what they are talking about. You'd be *very* hard pressed to find a 10w40 that would cause slippage on a clutch that wasn't already failing.

More likely, the clutch lever or associated components are out of adjustment, preventing the clutch from fully engaging. This is a relatively common problem on the GS500.
Agree.

Plus, it is not difficult to remove the right cover. Remove the clutch plates (what - 6 bolts there?). Then clean the plates in kerosene. Lastly, dip them in new oil and put back together.

I see no way the wrong oil would ruin the clutch plates. Maybe make them not work, but after cleaning and the correct oil they would be good as new.

Put in the right oil then adjust the clutch. Probably after a few miles all the right oil would have worked its way into the plates, displacing the wrong oil and things will work OK. Then if there is still a problem, then clean the plates.

NortwestRider

I have been riding for 45 years and changing oil for 40 of those.After I bought my Vstrom new I used Honda 10-40 for about 3 years.Before that and for the last 2 years I have been useing whatever AUTO oil is on sale.I have NEVER had a oil related issue,EVER!!.Back in the 70's we would have sticky clutches when cold and some people said it was because of the additives in the oil!!,I don't know if that was true or not but we kept useing the same oil !!.


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89500inPA

I have mostly used Silkolene, and Castrol 10w 40 and had no issues. For my last oil change I decided to try Rotella T 15w 40. From day 1, it ran kind of rough and shifting gears became stiff to the point of painful especially towards the end of an hours commute. Finding neutral became dang near impossible and shifting from neutral to first in the morning caused a lurch in the bike. Within a few rides, I had enough and drained it out. Pep Boys had Valvaline 4t synthetic on sale cheap so i bought that and everything is smooth as silk now.

I am by no means saying Rotella is bad oil, as I have seen so many glowing reviews, but I think our engines can be a little picky about whats in them.

gaillarry

Quote from: craigs449 on October 03, 2012, 05:13:04 PM
I run Shell Rotella 15W-40 in mine with no issues. It's good cheap oil that can be found at the local wally mart.  I run Mobil 1 10W-50 in my KTM supermoto.

I have 4 bikes, a pickup and a car.  Run Rotella  15W-40 in all of them,  Never had a problem.

NortwestRider

I think I will try Chevron Delo 400 next time,I can get it by the gallon for free !!!.


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Quote from: NortwestRider on October 05, 2012, 04:47:08 PM
I think I will try Chevron Delo 400 next time,I can get it by the gallon for free !!!
Why not, changing yer oil on a regular basis is more important than what oil you use.
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iclrag

I use the old school castrol 10W-40 synthetic, cheap and very effective

NortwestRider

At work when they change the oil in the refer units they bill it out by the gallon.It doesn't always take all of it so I get the left overs and in a week or two I have a gollon or more !!.Works for me !!!.


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Quote from: 89500inPA on October 05, 2012, 09:40:43 AM
I have mostly used Silkolene, and Castrol 10w 40 and had no issues. For my last oil change I decided to try Rotella T 15w 40. From day 1, it ran kind of rough and shifting gears became stiff to the point of painful especially towards the end of an hours commute. Finding neutral became dang near impossible and shifting from neutral to first in the morning caused a lurch in the bike. Within a few rides, I had enough and drained it out. Pep Boys had Valvaline 4t synthetic on sale cheap so i bought that and everything is smooth as silk now.

I am by no means saying Rotella is bad oil, as I have seen so many glowing reviews, but I think our engines can be a little picky about whats in them.

bull hockey.

if the bike is over filled, it will do this, every single time, no matter what you out in it.

rotella, delo, walmart special, redline, amsoil, will all run and protect the engines surfaces for the same number of miles... IF its changed regularly and not over filled.


there has NEVER been a gs engine failure diagnosed as caused by x brand of oil.



tt_four: "and believe me, BMW motorcycles are 50% metal, rubber and plastic, and 50% useless

slipperymongoose

Gotta agree with that last sentence
Some say that he submitted a $20000 expense claim for some gravel

And that if he'd write a letter of condolance he would at least spell your name right.

twocool

Damn!

I was nearly ready to give up on this forum all together....

But there are still a few voices of reason out there!

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Quote from: ohgood on October 09, 2012, 05:50:21 PM
Quote from: 89500inPA on October 05, 2012, 09:40:43 AM
I have mostly used Silkolene, and Castrol 10w 40 and had no issues. For my last oil change I decided to try Rotella T 15w 40. From day 1, it ran kind of rough and shifting gears became stiff to the point of painful especially towards the end of an hours commute. Finding neutral became dang near impossible and shifting from neutral to first in the morning caused a lurch in the bike. Within a few rides, I had enough and drained it out. Pep Boys had Valvaline 4t synthetic on sale cheap so i bought that and everything is smooth as silk now.

I am by no means saying Rotella is bad oil, as I have seen so many glowing reviews, but I think our engines can be a little picky about whats in them.

bull hockey.

if the bike is over filled, it will do this, every single time, no matter what you out in it.

rotella, delo, walmart special, redline, amsoil, will all run and protect the engines surfaces for the same number of miles... IF its changed regularly and not over filled.


there has NEVER been a gs engine failure diagnosed as caused by x brand of oil.

mass-hole

Rotella T6 here. Can't really beat $21 a gallon for motorcycle oil. Well i suppose you could but it wouldnt be synthetic.

I also use it in my Legacy GT as MANY people with subies have seen fantastic results from it based on Blackstone Labs oils anaylsis and better oil consumption rates. It holds up much better with the turbo.
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BassWoW

Quote from: mass-hole on October 10, 2012, 08:45:20 AM
Rotella T6 here. Can't really beat $21 a gallon for motorcycle oil. Well i suppose you could but it wouldnt be synthetic.

I also use it in my Legacy GT as MANY people with subies have seen fantastic results from it based on Blackstone Labs oils anaylsis and better oil consumption rates. It holds up much better with the turbo.

This what I use... I have noticed a sticky clutch when I start on cold morning in gear. I just throw it in neutral and fire-away.

k4

ohgood

Quote from: mass-hole on October 10, 2012, 08:45:20 AM
Rotella T6 here. Can't really beat $21 a gallon for motorcycle oil. Well i suppose you could but it wouldnt be synthetic.

I also use it in my Legacy GT as MANY people with subies have seen fantastic results from it based on Blackstone Labs oils anaylsis and better oil consumption rates. It holds up much better with the turbo.

$12 / gallon for rotella... I just beat your motorcycle specific oil with a bat.

oh god not oil analysis again!  its a f%$king gs500! it doesn't f%$king matter what brand x oil does in a Subaru or the Titanic. the bike in question is







a gs500!







f%$k. check the valves when it don't start first tick over, change the oil every 3k, and adjust the chain. its not rocket surgery.



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NortwestRider

Ahmen brother !!!!!.


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