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[Janx101]

It is my fondest wish to win Lotto ... Buy a bulldozer .. Nice ROPS cabin with good air-con ....and super-wing pusher blade on the front...

I'm planning to help the hell out of the environment and 'doze in as many greenies as I can!! 

[ThatOtherGuy]

except for better or worse we do have "the Greens" that supposedly keep the bastards honest, though they seem to be selling out lately.

What do you mean lately? the greens have always been sellouts in attempts to push their socialist agenda forward.

I just seem to have memories of the greens actually being green once (upon a time).  This latest government has shown them to be less than green though, selling out their vote to he highest bidder.

[mister]

Dat-O!

Man Made Global Warming is BS

Climate Change is real. Happens all the time. Every year. It's called Seasons. The rest, well, the Water is the largest supplier of CO2. It's released from the ocean in Warm Water and goes back into the ocean in Cool Water. Biggest things to change the water temp are: Sun and Internal Earth Temp. We are currently at the top of a 100,000 year heating/cooling cycle. Continents shift. When they do, the bodies of water still need to flow. Large volumes of different temperature water in different flow configurations alters weather. The only consistent thing about weather on this planet is that it is not consistent.

There you go, the summation version. Still think your SUV makes a difference?

Michael

[Janx101]

Eh Mister .. You read that book... Heaven and Earth by Ian Plimer ... It's a bit trudgy but not bad when you finished and think it over

[mister]

Eh Mister .. You read that book... Heaven and Earth by Ian Plimer ... It's a bit trudgy but not bad when you finished and think it over

Nope. Never heard of it until you just mentioned it.

I do find it interesting though... the carbon pump is known about. Glacial melt from humidity and not temperature is known about. but when it comes to Global Warming, well, we can forget about those scientifically proven things and blame cars. Never mind there is more argon in the atmosphere than CO2, never mind Man's contribution to that minuscule amount of CO2 is way under 10%.

Fuking media is in cohoots with lying bastard politicians to tax us for no reason.

There's a book.... great scams, swindles, and fads of the 20th century, or something like that. I'll get the right title later. Good read how stupid entire nations are. I imagine this will be another chapter in that book.

Thanks for the mention of the other book though. I'll certainly need to check it out.

[codajastal]

[The Buddha]

Dat-O!

Man Made Global Warming is BS

Climate Change is real. Happens all the time. Every year. It's called Seasons. The rest, well, the Water is the largest supplier of CO2. It's released from the ocean in Warm Water and goes back into the ocean in Cool Water. Biggest things to change the water temp are: Sun and Internal Earth Temp. We are currently at the top of a 100,000 year heating/cooling cycle. Continents shift. When they do, the bodies of water still need to flow. Large volumes of different temperature water in different flow configurations alters weather. The only consistent thing about weather on this planet is that it is not consistent.

There you go, the summation version. Still think your SUV makes a difference?

Michael

The water release of CO2 is true, but it is a self reinforcing phenomenon. It will get warmer as it gets warmer.
That is why the 2 degree mark has been used as a reference mark. We got 2 degrees of co2 already in the atmosphere. The thing will take several years for the full effect. We stopped acid rain, cos sulphur dioxide lasts only 2 hours. Co2 lasts 1000. It takes several years to play out even. Co2 causes warming, warming causes co2, repeat over 50 years and you get a stable new temperature with the added co2. Suck it out of the air, and 50 yrs later you will be cooler.

BTW there is a technique, where they spray sulphur in the stratosphere and that reflects the incoming solar radiation. Seriously we need to do something like that now.

However I should tell you ... every biker knows man made global warming is 100% real. Have you ridden out into the country and when you ride back to the city you'd literally feel a wall of temperature change a mile or so from the city ?

Cool.
Buddha.

[john]

I want to party with that cop.

[yamahonkawazuki]

except for better or worse we do have "the Greens" that supposedly keep the bastards honest, though they seem to be selling out lately.

What do you mean lately? the greens have always been sellouts in attempts to push their socialist agenda forward.

I just seem to have memories of the greens actually being green once (upon a time).  This latest government has shown them to be less than green though, selling out their vote to he highest bidder.

and usually emit more carbon or whatever than we do. take al bore for example. look at his home. and mister, love your explanation. try convincing a greenie on that though.

[The Buddha]

Classic argument ... The tree huggers are driving to the trees and hugging them, what a huge impact that is, they should stay home so they wont use gas and oxygen breathing by the trees ...

Dude, stay with the science, complaining about greenies is useless. Al Bore house is big and uses lots of power etc ... however, the correct comparison is other houses of that size/type. Not your little 2 bed apartment. Unfortunate, the president lives in a big house when he's president ... cant complain he's making global warming either.

Dont compare the gas mileage of an SUV to a bicycle.
Complain the SUV is driving 10 mph with 1000's of other SUV's with 1 occupant ...

Cool.
Buddha.

[mister]

Stop trying to control the weather. The planet has a 100,000 year warming cooling cycle. We didn't do jackshit 400,000 years ago or 300,000 years ago or 200,000 years ago. But now we have cars somehow it is US making that 100,000 cycle happen. Not the Sun or any other thing. Us alone. Sheeet!

Wanna suck more CO2 from the air. Plant trees. How hard is that? One thing is sure, though, taxing people won't do anything bar make more politicians more and more money.

Maybe they can legislate against volcanoes erupting. This way we won't have another "year without summer" or "medieval mini ice age" or whatever. 

[codajastal]

When is the end of the world conning, I'm bored?

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[mister]

When is the end of the world conning

Conning? Well, I think the conning is going on all the time, while coning only through Maccas drive throughs.

[The Buddha]

Stop trying to control the weather. The planet has a 100,000 year warming cooling cycle. We didn't do jackshit 400,000 years ago or 300,000 years ago or 200,000 years ago. But now we have cars somehow it is US making that 100,000 cycle happen. Not the Sun or any other thing. Us alone. Sheeet!

Wanna suck more CO2 from the air. Plant trees. How hard is that? One thing is sure, though, taxing people won't do anything bar make more politicians more and more money.

Maybe they can legislate against volcanoes erupting. This way we won't have another "year without summer" or "medieval mini ice age" or whatever. 

We are already controlling the weather by pumping carbon dioxide.
The earth does warm, and it has been much much warmet, I think almost 8-10 degrees warmer. It got that much warmer over 100,000+ years. Evolution will have a good chance to catch up if we did it over 100,000 yrs. We have warmed it 2 degrees in just about 25 years. That is far too rapid. Oddly the last 15 years the earth has been cooling though. But we have simply been bailed out temporarily cos cooling has occoured for some reason.

You're again talking about how its dis-incentivized in your state/cuty/country. The beyond proof part - we have put co2 in the air and we have got it warmer, and a trend that will happen and un roll in the next 50-100 years. We have 2 degrees counted in already. We have never ever had 400 ppm if I recall in over 30,000 years of the earths life. Polar Ice cores have proved that.

The carbon tax or this or that is some politicians idea. We have those kooks too. Will make no difference except push all the manufacturing to china, where coincidentally they have no such laws.
We probably should hit em with 100% import taxes.

Cool.
Buddha.

[Zookmang]

Stop trying to control the weather. The planet has a 100,000 year warming cooling cycle. We didn't do jackshit 400,000 years ago or 300,000 years ago or 200,000 years ago. But now we have cars somehow it is US making that 100,000 cycle happen. Not the Sun or any other thing. Us alone. Sheeet!

Wanna suck more CO2 from the air. Plant trees. How hard is that? One thing is sure, though, taxing people won't do anything bar make more politicians more and more money.

Maybe they can legislate against volcanoes erupting. This way we won't have another "year without summer" or "medieval mini ice age" or whatever. 

We are already controlling the weather by pumping carbon dioxide.
The earth does warm, and it has been much much warmet, I think almost 8-10 degrees warmer. It got that much warmer over 100,000+ years. Evolution will have a good chance to catch up if we did it over 100,000 yrs. We have warmed it 2 degrees in just about 25 years. That is far too rapid. Oddly the last 15 years the earth has been cooling though. But we have simply been bailed out temporarily cos cooling has occoured for some reason.

You're again talking about how its dis-incentivized in your state/cuty/country. The beyond proof part - we have put co2 in the air and we have got it warmer, and a trend that will happen and un roll in the next 50-100 years. We have 2 degrees counted in already. We have never ever had 400 ppm if I recall in over 30,000 years of the earths life. Polar Ice cores have proved that.

The carbon tax or this or that is some politicians idea. We have those kooks too. Will make no difference except push all the manufacturing to china, where coincidentally they have no such laws.
We probably should hit em with 100% import taxes.

Cool.
Buddha.

[The Buddha]

One thing we have going with respect to china, their air quality is so awful, we can put LA's air in cans and sell it to them as "fresh air" and they'll buy it.
They're choking on their own fart. Its only a matter of time before they turn to us and say, OK we're screwed ... now what do we do ?

Cool.
Buddha.

[Janx101]

Maybe it's just my cynical 'old man' view... I don't think china will turn to anyone and ask for help... More like .. "Oh, our air is very bad now.. Perhaps we should invade somewhere with fresher air... And send all the very bad people there back to china for doctrination .... Our people can live in most esteemed new territory... The people we take over will be very happy... We build these new cities for them to live... Sure air is bad... But they can work to fix problem!   

[The Buddha]

Yea probably. I suggest siberia.
Cool.
Buddha.

[Janx101]

nah bro .. the cities are there already! .. maybe they were built during the peak a few years ago??... but... looks like preparing for something?!

http://www.hoaxorfact.com/Miscellaneous/china-and-africa-governments-build-ghost-towns-facts-analysis.html

[The Buddha]

Oh yea we should move the rich chinese to angola ... really I think that wont solve much of their problems ... They will be shipping chinese crap to the chinese ... like Indians survive on buying 1/2 their food and the rest of it from the injun store ...
I know of a few people who used to drive to the nearest big city ... like if you were in say columbia SC, you'd go to atlanta and buy Injun stuff.
Chinese will be buying soy sauce and fish from china which will be flown there ... nope wont solve a thing. Oh, but they dont know that, no problem.

Cool.
Buddha.