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Hyosung GT250R rear sets?

Started by crzydood17, January 08, 2013, 10:28:45 PM

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slipperymongoose

I agree somewhat with the valving out of the box, but I must say that I would take adjustability, then work on the valving afterward. On mainstream bikes like Honda cbr, GSXR'S, the Yamaha R's out of the box have decent enough suspension that can be reasonably upgraded with a simple spring change. It's only when you get serious about your track days etc or hard street riding that you would then look into upgrading the valves etc on those particular ones. But back onto topic I wouldn't use the hyo forks unless they like u said burning came with adjustability. There's no point swapping for the sake of USD if its not going to give you more then what stock has.
Some say that he submitted a $20000 expense claim for some gravel

And that if he'd write a letter of condolance he would at least spell your name right.

mustangGT90210

Ghetto measuring says the sets will fit? I may have to be the guinnea pig...
'93 GS - Clubmans - '04 tank/seat - Custom "slip" on - Airtech fender - Drag Specialties speedometer - GSXR drag bike grips - GSXR pegs - Lunchbox - Re-jet - Sold!

-94 GSX-R 750 - Sold

-02 SV650 - Crashed, sold for parts

-96 Bandit 600 - Sold

-93 Intruder 800 - bobbed out basket case,new project

burning1

Quote from: slipperymongoose on January 14, 2013, 07:56:49 PM
I agree somewhat with the valving out of the box, but I must say that I would take adjustability, then work on the valving afterward. On mainstream bikes like Honda cbr, GSXR'S, the Yamaha R's out of the box have decent enough suspension that can be reasonably upgraded with a simple spring change.

That's fine for the suspension from a GSX-R or an R6, but not necessarily true for a budget suspension. Even if the GT250R has external adjustments, if the internals are conventional damper rods, it won't be worth a swap. Conversely, if there are no external adjustments but it has nice valving, it could be a huge upgrade for us.

slipperymongoose

Thing is a simple spring and pre load change is what most people here do and need but yes I agree. On the other hand there's not many budget suspension upgrades for our forks. Rear shock yes but front forks not much.
Some say that he submitted a $20000 expense claim for some gravel

And that if he'd write a letter of condolance he would at least spell your name right.

burning1

Understood. Pointing out what to look for in a fork swap.

slipperymongoose

Some say that he submitted a $20000 expense claim for some gravel

And that if he'd write a letter of condolance he would at least spell your name right.

oz353

and thats why i mentioned it.... to get you tech gurus talking about it. hopefully we can get some real answers about all of it soon. i did watch a "official review" on the gt250r, they dont linger on the subject of suspension for too long, however they do say that it is an overall good suspension. i also checked pricing for front end parts and they are relatively cheap.

now who is gonna be the guinea pig and pick one up so we can get some specs?
'92 GS500E
'89 US factory clip ons
RELOAD fork brace
Bridgestone S20R evo tires 110/70 17 140/70 17
.85 sonic springs & Bel ray fork oil
K&N Lunchbox & rejetted carbs
Vance and Hines full exhaust
Suzuki GSXR600 750 TL 1000 - REAR FOOT PEGS as found on gstwinswiki
R6 rear shock

crzydood17

another aside that swingarm/wheel might be a good swap as they come from the factory with 150 profile tires.
2004 GS500F (Sold)
2001 GS500 (being torn apart)
1992 GS500E (being rebuilt)

slipperymongoose

#28
Time will tell.

Another thing to consider is making sure that, that swingarm doesn't change the geometry of the rear at all such as the angle of the swingarm in relation to the ground. It's around 12 degrees ballpark figure and Suzuki would have spent a bit making sure this is spot on. You don't go messing with this stuff unless u really know what you are doing and what you want the bike to behave like. A fact I only recently just learned is that not all tyres are the same size (circumference) in a given category, e.g 180/55/17 aaand between manufactures. All of which affects the bikes geometry therefore handling.
Some say that he submitted a $20000 expense claim for some gravel

And that if he'd write a letter of condolance he would at least spell your name right.

Banzai

Took one for the team and test-fitted a Hyo GT650 rearset (identical to the 250) on my GS. The bolt spacing is actually about 3mm different so you would need to elongate one of the holes on the Hyo part. The Hyo left side also has the gear changer which is easy to remove. Not sure how fiddly it would be to adapt/connect the rear brake lever on the right hand side as we decided the rhs would be a bit too much to r&r for the exercise.


The Hyo sets the pegs back quite a bit on the lowest setting and the upper settings would have you folded up a bit more.
Wherever you may be, there you are.

crzydood17

So just a slight bore out on the top and bottom with a dremel and they would fit? EXCELLENT! Not a super aggressive change but looks like it would be worth it! And you can do GP shifting now!
2004 GS500F (Sold)
2001 GS500 (being torn apart)
1992 GS500E (being rebuilt)

gsatterw

GP shifting is far superior in my book. Got it set up like that on my gs
2002 GS500
Progressive Springs|15w oil|Heavy Duty Fork Brace|R6 Rear Shock|Cbr900rr Rear Sets|Reverse Shifting|'89 Factory Clipons|R6 Throttle Tube|K&N Lunchbox|V&H Exhaust|Jets: 22.5/65/147.5|3 turns|Shorai Li/Fe Battery|Iridium Plugs|Blue SS brake line|Blue Levers|Blue Chain

slipperymongoose

Least we know now well done. Now also the aftermarket more adjustable rear sets would also be suitable.  :thumb: :woohoo: :thumb:
Some say that he submitted a $20000 expense claim for some gravel

And that if he'd write a letter of condolance he would at least spell your name right.

burning1

Considerations:

-- How difficult is it to attach the rear brake?
-- Does the Hyo shift linkage use the same thread pattern as a Suzuki linkage? If so, we might be able to keep the Hyo shift lever and install a suzuki knuckle. Would improve the ergos of the shift lever.

Really exciting discovery!

Banzai

I would only enlarge one hole (probably the lower one) on the Hyo bracket for strength/stability. I didn't really look at the shifter linkage but the Hyo uses an adjustable rod similar to a turnbuckle arrangement so at worst that would need to be replaced with a longer one or shortened and rethreaded (remember one end is reverse thread. Suzi is directly into the side of the gearbox so you would need to check the spline on the gearbox end for a match.

If you desperately want the Hyo-style adjustable rear set, yes it is do-able but there will be bit of stuffing around and for a lot of people a reduction in rider comfort.
Wherever you may be, there you are.

burning1

It's useful for guys like me... Back and up is what you want on a race bike. If you want improved comfort, there are a number of manufacturers that offer drop-pegs which can fit the GS.

Banzai

I can definitely see the attraction for racing and having a position that is more like a sports bike.
Wherever you may be, there you are.

mustangGT90210

They fit?  :woohoo: I know my next mod. I'll hold off until someone has put together the right side as well, but I'm really excited. I need sets that go farther back and up. My legs are dead cramped after an hour with clubmans on an otherwise stock bike
'93 GS - Clubmans - '04 tank/seat - Custom "slip" on - Airtech fender - Drag Specialties speedometer - GSXR drag bike grips - GSXR pegs - Lunchbox - Re-jet - Sold!

-94 GSX-R 750 - Sold

-02 SV650 - Crashed, sold for parts

-96 Bandit 600 - Sold

-93 Intruder 800 - bobbed out basket case,new project

average

im sure after having the sets in your hands it d probably take about 2 beers and an hour to figure it out. Unless someting happens to my F2's, im stickiing with them....
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