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Time to upgrade.. Sv650s-sv1-fz6-fz1

Started by BassWoW, January 19, 2013, 06:57:09 PM

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SAFE-T

Where did you find that ? I am floored that Suzuki would bother to put a longer swingarm and different triple clamps on the 'N' model, along with different footpegs. 

shonole

Quote from: SAFE-T on January 29, 2013, 07:57:36 AM
Where did you find that ? I am floored that Suzuki would bother to put a longer swingarm and different triple clamps on the 'N' model, along with different footpegs.

Oops. meant to edit that out.  The rest is true, but it doesn't have a different swingarm, the swingarms are the same, but the S uses a shorter chain (108 vs 110) along with 1 tooth smaller rear sprocket, which gives a slightly shorter wheelbase.

From SVrider.com.
2004 SV650n - Blue

crzydood17

SV650S top speed is 135... my buddy has one... no iffs and or buts... he is almost at redline in 6th at that speed and is wind limited.

I vote for the F4i, they are beautiful bikes, very very comfortable, sit almost like the GS500 with 89 clipons (maybe a hair more forward).

I love mine!
2004 GS500F (Sold)
2001 GS500 (being torn apart)
1992 GS500E (being rebuilt)

shonole

Quote from: crzydood17 on January 29, 2013, 11:57:44 PM
SV650S top speed is 135... my buddy has one... no iffs and or buts... he is almost at redline in 6th at that speed and is wind limited.

I vote for the F4i, they are beautiful bikes, very very comfortable, sit almost like the GS500 with 89 clipons (maybe a hair more forward).

I love mine!

Yep, anywhere between 125-135.  Usually closer to the lower.
2004 SV650n - Blue

mcg2000

Quote from: crzydood17 on January 29, 2013, 11:57:44 PM
SV650S top speed is 135... my buddy has one... no iffs and or buts... he is almost at redline in 6th at that speed and is wind limited.

I vote for the F4i, they are beautiful bikes, very very comfortable, sit almost like the GS500 with 89 clipons (maybe a hair more forward).

I love mine!

I like the "no iffs and or buts" because I have recently gotten my stock 06 sv650s to 150 mph. You gotta keep on it after 135 for about a minute, but it'll get there. I know I already defended this, but... the no iffs or butts made me chuckle.

And thank you SAFE-T for the insight to the N model. I figured it was the handlebar vs clip-ons that made the seating angle difference, but wasn't aware of the other information.

dry_humor


shonole

Quote from: SAFE-T on January 26, 2013, 06:58:31 PM
The '04 apparently had some '04 only parts, so some people advise against that year. The 05+ had a dual-plug head that increased fuel efficiency.

It's the 03 that has specific parts (subframe, seat).  04+ are all the same, bodywork wise.
2004 SV650n - Blue

shonole

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Quote from: mcg2000 on January 31, 2013, 11:56:08 PM
Quote from: crzydood17 on January 29, 2013, 11:57:44 PM
SV650S top speed is 135... my buddy has one... no iffs and or buts... he is almost at redline in 6th at that speed and is wind limited.

I vote for the F4i, they are beautiful bikes, very very comfortable, sit almost like the GS500 with 89 clipons (maybe a hair more forward).

I love mine!

I like the "no iffs and or buts" because I have recently gotten my stock 06 sv650s to 150 mph. You gotta keep on it after 135 for about a minute, but it'll get there. I know I already defended this, but... the no iffs or butts made me chuckle.

And thank you SAFE-T for the insight to the N model. I figured it was the handlebar vs clip-ons that made the seating angle difference, but wasn't aware of the other information.

There's a video on youtube of someone hitting 143.  Of course, given that Sv's speedos run anywhere from 8-10% high, that would put him (and you) in the right range.
2004 SV650n - Blue

mcg2000

Whoa now, the speedometers are reported to 8-10% error? That's a HUGE error margin for electronics! I wanna find a way to test the accuracy of it now. Maybe someone in my engineering department will have the right tools... I'd actually be pissed if it was that far off. I mean, what would I tell the  :police: when he asked if I knew how fast I was going without lying? Geesh... lol.

Mechmech

Quote from: mcg2000 on February 02, 2013, 01:46:03 PM
Whoa now, the speedometers are reported to 8-10% error? That's a HUGE error margin for electronics! I wanna find a way to test the accuracy of it now. Maybe someone in my engineering department will have the right tools... I'd actually be pissed if it was that far off. I mean, what would I tell the  :police: when he asked if I knew how fast I was going without lying? Geesh... lol.
A GPS with speed tracking should be all you need.


1996 GS500E

rharding91

I rode a kawa zx-14 and a zx-10 today gotta say those are some nice bikes right there. First gear goes all the way to 90 and then some.

mcg2000

Quote from: Mechmech on February 02, 2013, 09:28:52 PM
Quote from: mcg2000 on February 02, 2013, 01:46:03 PM
Whoa now, the speedometers are reported to 8-10% error? That's a HUGE error margin for electronics! I wanna find a way to test the accuracy of it now. Maybe someone in my engineering department will have the right tools... I'd actually be pissed if it was that far off. I mean, what would I tell the  :police: when he asked if I knew how fast I was going without lying? Geesh... lol.
A GPS with speed tracking should be all you need.

That's true, except I don't think gps accounts for elevation change. I could also drive a determined distance and time it, but I'd like to see error as a function of speed, then complain to Suzuki lol.

Mechmech

Quote from: mcg2000 on February 04, 2013, 05:48:33 PM
Quote from: Mechmech on February 02, 2013, 09:28:52 PM
Quote from: mcg2000 on February 02, 2013, 01:46:03 PM
Whoa now, the speedometers are reported to 8-10% error? That's a HUGE error margin for electronics! I wanna find a way to test the accuracy of it now. Maybe someone in my engineering department will have the right tools... I'd actually be pissed if it was that far off. I mean, what would I tell the  :police: when he asked if I knew how fast I was going without lying? Geesh... lol.
A GPS with speed tracking should be all you need.

That's true, except I don't think gps accounts for elevation change. I could also drive a determined distance and time it, but I'd like to see error as a function of speed, then complain to Suzuki lol.
I can kinda see what their reasoning might be tho. Say your acceptable margin of error for speedos is ±5%. If you try to calibrate to normal speed, you might end up with a bunch of speedos that report speeds slower than true--in which case you'd get customers pulled over for going at what they thought was the speed limit.

If, instead, you calibrate it to +5% in the first case, the entire plausible margin of error is in the slower-than-you-think department which, although it may anger the rider, it won't get them in legal trouble (which in turn might tarnish the brand's name).

This is just pure speculation and mental wanking tho, so ignore me :P


1996 GS500E

mcg2000

That was pretty good mental wanking Mechmech. Good point.

ohgood

Quote from: dry_humor on February 01, 2013, 05:54:45 AM
Quote from: Twisted on January 25, 2013, 04:04:33 PMHyosung actually make the Suzuki 650 twin.

i am offended

don't be. hyosung makes stuff. a lot of stuff. bad body work, bad fit/finish, cheap controls sourced from other, even cheaper suppliers.....

but the engine works are good. very very good.





tt_four: "and believe me, BMW motorcycles are 50% metal, rubber and plastic, and 50% useless

ohgood

Quote from: mcg2000 on January 25, 2013, 11:04:58 PM


I find that hard to believe. A GSXR 600 can only do 155 mph and has 30 more horsepower. I've never heard of a stock SV doing more than 135 mph stock or 140 mph with extensive modifications.


Has the OP considered a Hyosung GT650R? I've never ridden one, but my buddy just picked up one of the older carb'd versions in mint condition for $1500 and he seems to like it


Dude... Ever heard of gear ratios? Just because an engine has more horsepower doesn't mean the bike will go faster. Your rotational speeds will vary from the engine to the wheel thanks to the transmission, which is geared differently for each bike (or model, etc.). The amount of teeth on your sprocket also affect the ratio.  Come out to Starkville, MS and I'll ride side by side with you at 150 MPH on my stock geared 06 Suzuki SV650S. Anyways, a GSX-R is a racing bike, so it'll be geared more towards acceleration, which sacrifices top speed.
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mmm, you're going to find more top speed variances from the fairing and tuck of the rider than a +1/-1 on the sprockets. try sitting up at 100mph, let alone 135. no DONT. it's like tossing out a f%$king anchor, and it HURTS.

i really just looked at this thread to see what the OP decided on for an upgrade on bikes. the hyosung bashing made me laugh a little, now i'm just hoping the OP comes around and tells us what he likes / dislikes.

:)


tt_four: "and believe me, BMW motorcycles are 50% metal, rubber and plastic, and 50% useless

mcg2000

Hah. Tilt up at 135+ and hold on to the handlebar tight, because you'll do the superman! Always gets the ladies...

mister

ALL speedos read Higher Than Actual - only the amount varies.
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gti5notrkt

Have you considered a Honda VFR800? The 06+ yrs are the best, but all are good back to 01. VFRs tend to be looked after. $5-7k will get you a pristine example.
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