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Started by wayne242, March 23, 2013, 05:58:28 AM

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joshr08

That motor didn't seize it was locked up due to a piece of the valve seat wedging between the piston and the combustion chamber.  That motor was also left on choke for way to long being cold outside or not.  If you look at the pics you can clearly see when the piece jammed into the bottom side of the head
05 GS500F
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k&n air filter,pro grip gel grips,removed grab handle,pro grip carbin fiber tank pad,14/45 sprockets RK X-oring Chain, Kat rear shock swap and Kat rear wheel swap 160/60-17 Shinko raven rear 120/60-17 front matching set polished and painted rims

jestercinti

Keep your oil clean, full, and changed often and you will not need a fan.

Just don't sit there and idle forever.  You'll be fine.
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Suzuki Stevo

Quote from: fetor56 on March 24, 2013, 01:49:46 AM
Yet to be determined the full extent of the damage.
http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=63577.0

No...try again, that engine was not idling, walking away and leaving the choke on is also a good way to Wash The Cylinder Walls.
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fetor56

Quote from: Suzuki Stevo on March 24, 2013, 10:49:35 AM
Quote from: fetor56 on March 24, 2013, 01:49:46 AM
Yet to be determined the full extent of the damage.
http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=63577.0

No...try again, that engine was not idling, walking away and leaving the choke on is also a good way to Wash The Cylinder Walls.

Leaving the choke on is still at idle,the same way as needing the choke on to idle is idle.
For example: you could say "my bike won't idle without the choke on"

joshr08

05 GS500F
mods
k&n air filter,pro grip gel grips,removed grab handle,pro grip carbin fiber tank pad,14/45 sprockets RK X-oring Chain, Kat rear shock swap and Kat rear wheel swap 160/60-17 Shinko raven rear 120/60-17 front matching set polished and painted rims

fetor56

Quote from: joshr08 on March 24, 2013, 02:46:54 PM
you call 4-5k rpm's an idle? :cookoo:

I call it a crazy technical idle and i'm sure it did not start out that way but that's unfortunately where it ended-up.

Calpantera

Quote from: ojstinson on March 23, 2013, 05:04:57 PM
A fan won't stop air flow, it may restrict it a bit but at speed you'd have more than enough flow through the fan.

Not true, I build muscle cars and have seen more than one guy put on an electric fan and shroud in that made their cars overheat when on the freeway. That is why many newer cars have holes in the shroud with little flaps that open with freeway speed airflow.
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Suzuki Stevo

Quote from: Calpantera on March 24, 2013, 03:19:07 PM
Quote from: ojstinson on March 23, 2013, 05:04:57 PM
A fan won't stop air flow, it may restrict it a bit but at speed you'd have more than enough flow through the fan.

Not true, I build muscle cars and have seen more than one guy put on an electric fan and shroud in that made their cars overheat when on the freeway. That is why many newer cars have holes in the shroud with little flaps that open with freeway speed airflow.
If it ain't broke don't fix it..

A friend of mine use to do roundie round at Evergreen Speedway, Monroe Wa, he put a screen (like a screen door) in front of his radiator. That only lasted one race, right away he noticed his car ran hotter during the race. We came to the conclusion that just being there the screen blocked approximately 1/3 to 1/4th the air flow to the radiator, so it had to go bye bye.
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Scoz

I have to agree with most sentiments here.  Turn the bike off if idling on a hot day for an extended time.  You'd save yourself a bit of fuel too.

wayne242

#29
You guy's carried over another topic into this one  :tongue2:

Anyhow I don't care about mounting it to the oil cooler, i just found that video and was showing that as a possibility.

I was more thinking mounting it to move heat from within the fairings when stopped (I have the F ). Its not a big deal i might not even do it, but I'm still exploring the option of doing it(if that makes sense.. then again its me and i never make much sense  :flipoff: ).
2006 GS 500 F

Calpantera

Quote from: wayne242 on March 24, 2013, 07:06:32 PM
I was more thinking mounting it to move heat from within the fairings when stopped (I have the F ). Its not a big deal i might not even do it, but I'm still exploring the option of doing it(if that makes sense.. then again its me and i never make much sense  :flipoff: ).
As long as it can be done without interfering with the airflow as designed, but then you may have a big drag on the electrical system..
Follow the path of least acceptance!

wayne242

#31
Quote from: Calpantera on March 24, 2013, 07:23:51 PM
Quote from: wayne242 on March 24, 2013, 07:06:32 PM
I was more thinking mounting it to move heat from within the fairings when stopped (I have the F ). Its not a big deal i might not even do it, but I'm still exploring the option of doing it(if that makes sense.. then again its me and i never make much sense  :flipoff: ).
As long as it can be done without interfering with the airflow as designed, but then you may have a big drag on the electrical system..


Yeah, that's why I'm researching on fans now. Look at fans and how much needed to run them. There is actually some nice flowing ones that don't use a lot of current. I would mount it where it would not restrict airflow during riding, and probably have a on off switch mounted (again if i do it).
2006 GS 500 F

fetor56

#32
Quote from: wayne242 on March 24, 2013, 07:06:32 PM
You guy's carried over another topic into this one  :tongue2:

Anyhow I don't care about mounting it to the oil cooler, i just found that video and was showing that as a possibility.

I was more thinking mounting it to move heat from within the fairings when stopped (I have the F ). Its not a big deal i might not even do it, but I'm still exploring the option of doing it(if that makes sense.. then again its me and i never make much sense  :flipoff: ).

Sorry man,we got sidetracked on your thread,but where on topic again.  :)

wayne242

haha, all good i just like picking fun at y'all  ;)
2006 GS 500 F

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wayne242

Quote from: yamahonkawazuki on March 24, 2013, 10:42:11 PM
Children if i gotta stop this minivan, you arent getting a f%$king happy meal  :flipoff: :flipoff: :flipoff: :flipoff:  :icon_lol:

2006 GS 500 F

comradeiggy

Damn, I almost wish I had paid attention to my professor in CAD/CAM when he spent 30 whole minutes going over the heat transfer part of the software we used, this would be interesting as hell to model. Maybe I'll take it up as a project this weekend.

wayne242

Quote from: comradeiggy on March 25, 2013, 05:03:08 PM
Damn, I almost wish I had paid attention to my professor in CAD/CAM when he spent 30 whole minutes going over the heat transfer part of the software we used, this would be interesting as hell to model. Maybe I'll take it up as a project this weekend.

would be interesting to see, I'm not computer guy so that's all foreign to me.
2006 GS 500 F

Janx101

Quote from: wayne242 on March 24, 2013, 07:06:32 PM
(if that makes sense.. then again its me and i never make much sense  :flipoff: ).

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