What are you nibbling on right now?

[codajastal]

Nibble Nobby's nuts before Nobby nibbles yours


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[steezin_and_wheezin]

My second cup of h2o this morning. Dreaming of the leftovers in the fridge; pork tenderloin, home made mac, and mashed taters

[john]

177.5. Down 37.5 from 215.

Contest over April 7. #1 with 4% points in the lead.


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ENjoy your new and improved custom title!

[Calpantera]

Back in the first post, I noticed the beer can carries the slogan "Because Beer Matters"...but I don't think that particular microbrewery really cares, because they put their beer in A CAN. Might as well be Busch or Natty Lite.

Real craft beer comes in a refillable glass growler or straight from a keg. 

You keep drinking that Kool-aide mate. My oldest son will drive 40 miles to get beer in a Growler and thinks its all special. Pour it in a glass and a similar one from a can in a glass and they taste the same..

[jestercinti]

John,

Sticks and stones will break my bones, but custom titles will never hurt me.

[Calpantera]

John,

Sticks and stones will break my bones, but custom titles will never hurt me.

I think skinny and bat shaZam! crazy kinda go hand in hand 

[Juan1]

bST is found in milk cow's milk naturally... All cow's milk has it.  Additionally, there are no significant findings that support differing levels of bST in in cows which receive bST vs. those that do not.  So, that ice cream has those same 'hormones' in it too! .. and the same amount of them! (ewww, gross!)... unles9s its not actually made with real milk... which then it wouldn't be 'natural' would it? 

It is a marketing technique for those that produce 'natural' or 'organic' products. No, they may not inject their cows with it, but it is already in there whether they like it or not.

I have never heard that rBGT is bad because it increases BGT levels in milk. I have heard that rBGT treated cows have more health issues, which has been well documented, and hence you end up drinking milk from cows that are more likely to be unhealthy or pumped full of antibodies.

[adidasguy]

because something naturally has something - more does not mean it is still OK.

Wine: It naturally has sulfites. It is a natural product of the grapes. Something like 5 ppm. Still, adding MORE to say 30ppm can cause asthmatic reactions. Even with what is there naturally, California requires a warning.

Maybe cows do have that stuff. Adding more to the cow to make more milk or make it grow faster to take to slaughter sooner is not necessarily good. Excessive growth hormones show "no significant problems". True, perhaps. So what is "significant"? maybe putting on 3 pounds of weight a year is not considered "significant", or something they look at in a 2 year study. But look at all the fat babies and 2 & 3 year old's that look like an air compressor was stuck in them? You can't blame that on lack of exercise or video games. At that age they are always active and in this country, way too many of them are fat. Extra growth hormones in the food and a few extra pounds of weight is are good.

I don't see these problems of everyone being fat when I travel in Europe. Yes, there are some fat people but not the rampant obesity we have here. Even if the stuff in food added 2 pounds a year, after 20 years you are now 40 pounds overweight. Fat due to hormones and chemicals is not easy to get rid of.

Why do we need all the crap in our food? Why do we need or want a vegetable to produce insecticides through genetic engineering if we don't want them sprayed on out food? It is all money. Follow the money.

Remember: eating fat does not make you fat. Your diet should be about 30% fat for proper health. It is calories in verses calories used. Fat free foods are not healthy and are over processed to where they are empty calories with no nutrition. Sugar free drinks confuse the brain and your metabolism. Why is it fat people always insist on diet drinks and non-fat people donot? Studies have shown diet drinks don't make you lose weight.

Enough ranting.

So what are you nibbling on at the moment?

[john]

You do know that one common way to increase rBST is to feed GM corn to dairy cows.  GM means genetically modified.  GM products are so commonly used I doubt people realize how much they ingest directly and indirectly.

[jestercinti]

Nibbling?  No. Drinking?  Yes.

Yuengling Lager. Smooth, nice.


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[Kijona]

Around 80-90% of my diet is beans/vegetables and one grapefruit a day. I am a formerly obese person.

I started off eliminating small things like cheese, mayonnaise, and red meat from my diet. Then I removed al fried food and soft drinks. Though I still occasionally drink diet drinks, I typically only consume water or water with lemon and crystal light (generic). I know that's technically a diet drink but it's not a soft drink.

I started eating beans about a year ago. Believe you me...that was the best thing I've ever done in terms of weightloss. Beans fill you up with good stuff and also increase the rate at which you digest food (fiber, mainly). And in case you're wondering...no, I don't fart all the time. Your body will adjust to the high fiber intake rather quickly and the gas will subside in a week or two.

Of course, I do binge every once in a while. I'll go and get the worst possible thing (usually icecream and chicken fingers) and eat it. That way I don't go nuts one day, and I never gain weight again.

That's the story of how I went from this:

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To this:




Topped out at 340lbs in 2009...had a 46" waist at one point.

Now, I've got a 33" waist and weigh 172 as of last week.

[yamahonkawazuki]

John,

Sticks and stones will break my bones, but custom titles will never hurt me.

i thought it was sticks and stones may break my bones but whips and chains excite me.

[adidasguy]

I'll be making a Creme Brulee with GOOSE eggs! Using just 2 of them. The 3rd I'll fry up for dinner.
Bought 3 of them at the West Seattle farmers Market (Sundays 10-2 at 44th and Alaska for you locals)
These are HUGE!
Picture compares them to duck eggs and duck eggs are larger than chicken eggs.

Nom nom nom nom nom nom nom nom......


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[W79]

Great job on the weightloss, Kijona! 

Takes a strong head to complete something like that...

[yamahonkawazuki]

I'll be making a Creme Brulee with GOOSE eggs! Using just 2 of them. The 3rd I'll fry up for dinner.
Bought 3 of them at the West Seattle farmers Market (Sundays 10-2 at 44th and Alaska for you locals)
These are HUGE!
Picture compares them to duck eggs and duck eggs are larger than chicken eggs.

Nom nom nom nom nom nom nom nom......

nom nom indeed. Lol. there you go makin me hungry. here i was ( without even reading this thread) making a creme brulee earlier.

[Kijona]

Great job on the weightloss, Kijona! 

Takes a strong head to complete something like that...

[BockinBboy]

bST is found in milk cow's milk naturally... All cow's milk has it.  Additionally, there are no significant findings that support differing levels of bST in in cows which receive bST vs. those that do not.  So, that ice cream has those same 'hormones' in it too! .. and the same amount of them! (ewww, gross!)... unles9s its not actually made with real milk... which then it wouldn't be 'natural' would it? 

It is a marketing technique for those that produce 'natural' or 'organic' products. No, they may not inject their cows with it, but it is already in there whether they like it or not.

I have never heard that rBGT is bad because it increases BGT levels in milk. I have heard that rBGT treated cows have more health issues, which has been well documented, and hence you end up drinking milk from cows that are more likely to be unhealthy or pumped full of antibodies.

All I was saying there is that companies which produce 'Natural' or 'Organic' milk put on their labels 'NO bST' or similar... and that is completely false! because all cow's milk has it... many claims put on a label are misleading in this way, like adidasguy's ice cream.

The feds put limits on antibodies and other body cells found in the milk (called Somatic Cell Count or SCC)... Also, you cannot drink from cows that have been treated with any medicines or antibiotics... so you cannot drink milk from unhealthy cows.  Unhealthy cows do not produce milk/good milk so no farmer would make money if they didn't have healthy cows.  And those that do not meet federal requirements, are separated during the milking process.  It would not be a cost effective practice if cows had more health issues when treated with bST.

and adidasguy.. cows are treated with bST all over the world, Europe is not excluded, though they have stricter regulations on most of their foods, and GM products ... I highly doubt milk is the culprit for obesity in the U.S.  ... many people who are unhealthy are so because they don't drink milk or develop other healthy habits when they are younger... but I see the point you are making.  Saying that little things we may not detect add up over time.  But this is how these companies sell their products, by making you afraid of the unknown or mysterious while their products have just as many themselves. You are completely correct that there is a problem in the U.S. that other countries do not have though.

John brings up a great point.  One that should anger those who spend their money on it... but when a product tells you that it is GMO free, they have little to prove that.  You may be surprised at what little requirements there are to make claims like this on a product package.  Nearly all corn and soy is GM in some way already, wheat is very close to that point as well.  If some company somehow found some seeds that aren't, good luck keeping it that way when you go to grow quantities large enough to make any product due to cross pollination and other means.

I'd love to buy you guys some beers and talk it out, but this is the internet, so I doubt what I say will change anyone's mind.  Just read up or research it if you want the bigger picture, and try to stay away from bias sources (nearly impossible I know, but don't go to PETA to get your information is all I'm saying LOL)

... Oh, and to add to the topic...
Really awesome to see that kind of change Kijona!  I hope you can inspire others.

I am having my morning coffee and protein bar before my shift starts.

- Bboy

[jestercinti]

Unless you grow it, or know the guy/gal who does, you can't trust anything you consume these days.

[adidasguy]

I see some posts got lost last night.
I'll re-post the photo of GOOSE eggs I got yesterday at the West Seattle Farmers Market tonight.

[Calpantera]

I see some posts got lost last night.
I'll re-post the photo of GOOSE eggs I got yesterday at the West Seattle Farmers Market tonight.

Ya I noticed the database errors over the weekend and then a "down for maint" message for a backup today. I was looking for your ice cream pic and saw it was gone..