FS - 37mm clip ons and custom top plate

[weedahoe]

Thanks Badot

If you used replacement screws and bought too long then I could see that. But those that come with it are the proper length so no damage can occur.

[john]

[EDIT] - If anyone can tell me the major differences is specs or CAD prints on how these may not be "Vortex", I will give them to that person.

Now that's a challenge!  Lets see if somebody can "win" them.

[SAFE-T]

here is a stock pic of "Vortex" and here is a pic of what Im selling. Can anyone give detailed differences?

The Real McCoys have a different profile on the inside and outside which is clearly visible in these two pictures. Yours do not, and are therefore different and not the same product as Vortex is showing in their product pic. Should I send you my address ?

[weedahoe]

Nice try but cosmetics do not qualify as technical specifications

An example, the light kit on my truck was had 5 revisions. The kit on my bike has had at least 3. Yes both kits are still authentic from the manufacturer who makes them. My point is, no one can say truly whether these are older model "Vortex" or not. They are clearly not the skimpy overseas models on ebay. Technical specifications are the same as the current model of "Vortex" come they are selling today.

Overall, the contest as John put it, is a trick if you want to call it that. Overall, there are no technical differences as again, they have the same profile, same offset, same bar diameter and length, fit the same triples, use the same bar ends, both made of aluminum, ect.

[wayne242]

Only thing that stands out to me as telling the difference is that vortex mounts have the screws from top that hold the bars in (the mounts that go on the forks), and the set you have screws from the side which vortex never have done the're that way.

Plus vortex splits there on the side since the screws come from top unlike your sit which slit at bottom which is normally the ebay China made and not vortex.






Edit: plus all vortex mounts have the little grove in the mounts unlike the China ones.


Cant tell difference by bars them self, so no point in trying.. only the mounts show clearly vortex or now.

[Slack]

How's this for a technical specification: your bars use 3 bolts to clamp them to the fork tubes, vortex only uses 2.  Either way, you owe Safe-T a free set of clip-ons.  Can you post pictures of previous versions of vortex clip ons that are shaped like yours?

[wayne242]

How's this for a technical specification: your bars use 3 bolts to clamp them to the fork tubes, vortex only uses 2.  Either way, you owe Safe-T a free set of clip-ons.  Can you post pictures of previous versions of vortex clip ons that are shaped like yours?

Your incorrect yourself, vortex as both 3 and 2 screw clamps.. look at my picture... not to mention weeds is not 3 bolts its 2..

Edit: His does have 3, i did not see other pic of them installed until now.

[Slack]

There are 3.

[wayne242]

Still, vortex as both 2 and 3 bolts for the mounts like mentioned above, so that's irrelevant.  I clearly explained with proof of how to tell the difference above with PICs.

[Slack]

Still, vortex as both 2 and 3 bolts for the mounts like mentioned above, so that's irrelevant.  I clearly explained with proof of how to tell the difference above with PICs.

I know.  I read.  I agree with you.   

[PatheticPuma]

Vortex or not, still a  good deal

[john]

Vortex or not, still a  good deal

That's my point too.

[SAFE-T]

They will be even better FREE.

I have owned some Vortex stuff and you would not mistake it for anything else. Check out various pics of their bar clamps at https://www.vortexracing.com/shop/product/18674/711/17/83/ and you will see how different they are.

I sent Vortex the pic of the clamps in question, so I guess we will see what they have to say.

[weedahoe]

They will be even better FREE.

I have owned some Vortex stuff and you would not mistake it for anything else. Check out various pics of their bar clamps at https://www.vortexracing.com/shop/product/18674/711/17/83/ and you will see how different they are.

I sent Vortex the pic of the clamps in question, so I guess we will see what they have to say.

What you havent mentioned though is how these could function any different than "vortex" and how they might not work "as good". You were stuck on a name being branded on the item making it somehow a better functioning product being that you didnt want something from overseas but rather something from "vortex". My entire debate point is that there is not structural difference. Sure cosmetically there might be but again, who is buying clips ons for looks over function?

[weedahoe]

On a note, Ive gotten several PMs saying Wayne242 should get them so Wayne242, if you want them, PM me, me. Once you get them you can do a review. 

[mustangGT90210]

Holy pissing match batman!

[SAFE-T]

Holy pissing match batman!

Really ? I am finding it is an excellent discussion about whether something is or is not what it is claimed to be.

[SAFE-T]

They will be even better FREE.

I have owned some Vortex stuff and you would not mistake it for anything else. Check out various pics of their bar clamps at https://www.vortexracing.com/shop/product/18674/711/17/83/ and you will see how different they are.

I sent Vortex the pic of the clamps in question, so I guess we will see what they have to say.

What you havent mentioned though is how these could function any different than "vortex" and how they might not work "as good".

Gee. I don't know. I guess it's the same difference as exists between different makes of tires and brands of oil. Tires need to be round and oil needs to be slippery, but other than that how would you quantify their differences without testing for specific qualities merely by looking at them if you didn't know anything about their place of origin. This is why Vortex puts the name 'Vortex' on their stuff. Whether your stuff is as good or better is not the question ~ the question is whether it is made by Vortex or not, which conveys a certain amount of implied information regarding their quality and $$$ value in the first place.

[Badot]

On a note, Ive gotten several PMs saying Wayne242 should get them so Wayne242, if you want them, PM me, me. Once you get them you can do a review. 

Eh? Did I miss seeing something said that I hadn't pointed out already?

[john]

On a note, Ive gotten several PMs saying Wayne242 should get them so Wayne242, if you want them, PM me, me. Once you get them you can do a review. 

Eh? Did I miss seeing something said that I hadn't pointed out already?

No sour grapes.  It just seemed like wayne used photos and detailed description of differences.  Apparently a few people PM'd weed about it.  So it seems like the crowd voted.

Regardless nobody lost anything, and this has been a lively discussion of outsourcing / grey market / knock offs.