Laid it down...Hard...

[redhawkdancing]

If your going to ride that hard on the street, pick up more protection for yourself. You can always replace the bike.  Your body...not so much. 

http://www.safermoto.com/

[frylockjim]

Eh Jim.... Just a general question... Were you close enough behind your mates that they noticed/saw you spill? .... Or did they notice after a short time and loop back?

Been on a number of group rides and its always a concern if there are 'new to area/road' riders in there... Personally I prefer to ride at the back .. Gives more clues as to any hazards ahead...

And I gotta ask .... When you spilled it ... Did you get any of the 'whoa almost in slo-mo' effect? ... Like you know it's real time ... But your brain kinda goes into warp speed ... And you still have time to think 'is there any faint chance to save this' ...

With the car thing and a couple truck lay downs over the 'career' I've noticed it a little... Nothing serious on the bike yet "thanks to Odin and the Gods" ... I always thought it was a Hollywood effect thing ... Its freaky!

My friend was in a car and was doing his own thing. He didnt notice until like a mile after i crashed. And YES!!! i did do the slo mo thing except i did it in a badass way like daredevil or something cause i knew i was gonna crash so i slammed the back brake, lifted my left leg up to the seat, and "surfed" it into the wall  like a total badass!!!

[frylockjim]

Ya see, he just can't stop posting.

maybe you should try ur own advice from the link eh? seems like you have "OPD" and "SPS" (Small pee pee syndrome)..sorry everyone else that we have someone who just cant be mature enough for this thread. And Janx, i enjoyed your story haha

[Janx101]

Lol.... Least you rode the demon to a stop! .. Very "Ghostrider"!!!  (the movie one) ...

Oh and a Nod for the story appreciation .. The main point of it was I know how lucky you can feel after a near miss of your own creation ..

You know the saying "never drive/ride faster than your guardian angel can fly ?? ... Mine has had to be pretty fleet of wing a few times...  ... And has a odd sense of humor sometimes too..   

[noworries]

Sorry, Fry, Janxie topic now closed. If he really wants to persist in making a dork of himself (was that really 9 posts today?) after his Aussie mates here trying to give him a bit of a helping hand like, well what can be said. It's just all over, rover, and time for bed.

[Calpantera]

I have ridden Mt Baldy a few times, I always get really nervous near that bar/restaurant right before that bridge going up the mountain. Always think some fool is going to come flying out of that lot and not see me. Glad you were not injured too bad, bet you drive within your limits for a bit now  My only issue with my GS is the braking, I cannot count how many times I have come up on stopped traffic or a signal with the rear locked up weaving like a snowboarder to avoid a wreck. Damn speed addictions are tough to beat. Hope you get her back on the road soon..


So Janx posted 9 posts in a single day! WTF Janx, you must have blisters on your finger from all that posting (NOT!)
Mr Noworries why are you so worried about what the heck Janx is doing, what are you his momma?

[noworries]

I do love the way you California boys butt in to an Australian training programme intended only to save Janxie from himself.
Jazus, now I'm posting too much. Goodnight.

[BockinBboy]

More front brake, Cal. The GS is too light to use rear brake all the time. I hardly ever use rear brake at all, and I'm not just saying that.  Heck, I pretty much only use rear brake when already stopped at a light... Just tap it when another car comes up behind to make sure they see me, and to already have one foot off the ground for a faster get away if needed.

Anyway. Someone posted something about keeping up with other folks and not feeling comfortable. Seems like it might have been an Aussie... Slips maybe?  Not for sure but it was several months to a year ago and I can't find the thread. It was a really good write up on his thoughts about a really stressful group ride that tested his limits when he wasn't ready, and really made him reflect on how he rode. It definitely stuck in my mind, and made a difference in how I rode with others. Fry should have a read on that, as well as many others in light of the riding season and downed rider threads. Just can't seem to find it!
Anyone know or who can provide a link?

- Bboy

[ohgood]

More front brake, Cal. The GS is too light to use rear brake all the time. I hardly ever use rear brake at all, and I'm not just saying that.  Heck, I pretty much only use rear brake when already stopped at a light... Just tap it when another car comes up behind to make sure they see me, and to already have one foot off the ground for a faster get away if needed.

Anyway. Someone posted something about keeping up with other folks and not feeling comfortable. Seems like it might have been an Aussie... Slips maybe?  Not for sure but it was several months to a year ago and I can't find the thread. It was a really good write up on his thoughts about a really stressful group ride that tested his limits when he wasn't ready, and really made him reflect on how he rode. It definitely stuck in my mind, and made a difference in how I rode with others. Fry should have a read on that, as well as many others in light of the riding season and downed rider threads. Just can't seem to find it!
Anyone know or who can provide a link?

- Bboy

that's the worst new rider to new rider advice I've heard, right after "helmets will make you a vegetable".

[Calpantera]

More front brake, Cal. The GS is too light to use rear brake all the time. I hardly ever use rear brake at all, and I'm not just saying that.  Heck, I pretty much only use rear brake when already stopped at a light... Just tap it when another car comes up behind to make sure they see me, and to already have one foot off the ground for a faster get away if needed.
- Bboy

I am afraid the front end will slip, I do not trust the tiny contact patch these old tires have and would rather skate the rear than the front 
On my other bikes I always had wider tires and better brakes, I can barley remember locking up the tires at all on my Interceptor. I think its a combo of too much gut and not enough tire 

[BockinBboy]

Ohgood, your comment about helmets isn't even close. That's garbage. It's common, good, sound advice to learn how to use your damn front brake! 70/30 front/rear taught in every MSF course. I was just making a point that I'm even more extreme and hardly use the rear. Don't take my words out of context or put words in my mouth.
I generally appreciate your comments in here as you are blunt and to the point, but I feel you missed the point I was trying to make. To say my comment is in the same field as your comparison is simply glib.

Cal, I understand where you are coming from, and i would  probably do the same with old tires. Didnt realize thats ehat you were on. But that wont stop me from telling you to get new tires, bro!  I rode for a week in old tires and experienced the front slide out a little on gravel.  I didnt go down but scared me into new tires the very next day.

- Bboy

[Calpantera]

Cal, I understand where you are coming from, and i would  probably do the same with old tires. Didnt realize thats ehat you were on. But that wont stop me from telling you to get new tires, bro!  I rode for a week in old tires and experienced the front slide out a little on gravel.  I didnt go down but scared me into new tires the very next day.
- Bboy

Ya new tires is on the radar for sure, trying to figure out the widest I can go on the stock rims. Actually selling a couple or drum kits on CL today for the GS fund!

[frylockjim]

I have ridden Mt Baldy a few times, I always get really nervous near that bar/restaurant right before that bridge going up the mountain. Always think some fool is going to come flying out of that lot and not see me. Glad you were not injured too bad, bet you drive within your limits for a bit now  My only issue with my GS is the braking, I cannot count how many times I have come up on stopped traffic or a signal with the rear locked up weaving like a snowboarder to avoid a wreck. Damn speed addictions are tough to beat. Hope you get her back on the road soon..


So Janx posted 9 posts in a single day! WTF Janx, you must have blisters on your finger from all that posting (NOT!)
Mr Noworries why are you so worried about what the heck Janx is doing, what are you his momma?

If u have been up baldy then u might know the road known as GMR (Glendora Mountain Route). Thats the road i took that made me crash, and it also has a high fatality rate (which i found out AFTER i crashed). Do not go up there unless its day time btw cause its extremely hard to see at night.

[frylockjim]

If your going to ride that hard on the street, pick up more protection for yourself. You can always replace the bike.  Your body...not so much. 

http://www.safermoto.com/

Thanks for the link! I will definitely get one of these! I never knew they made those

[ohgood]

Ohgood, your comment about helmets isn't even close. That's garbage. It's common, good, sound advice to learn how to use your damn front brake! 70/30 front/rear taught in every MSF course. I was just making a point that I'm even more extreme and hardly use the rear. Don't take my words out of context or put words in my mouth.
I generally appreciate your comments in here as you are blunt and to the point, but I feel you missed the point I was trying to make. To say my comment is in the same field as your comparison is simply glib.


- Bboy

call it whatever you like, get offended if you like, its still wrong to suggest anyone, anywhere use only one end of the braking system.

nothing was added or taken out of context. you said the gs is too light to use the rear brake. that's wrong. period. then you fortify it with your own incorrect day to day usage. where does more wrongs make a right ?

[frylockjim]

Ohgood, your comment about helmets isn't even close. That's garbage. It's common, good, sound advice to learn how to use your damn front brake! 70/30 front/rear taught in every MSF course. I was just making a point that I'm even more extreme and hardly use the rear. Don't take my words out of context or put words in my mouth.
I generally appreciate your comments in here as you are blunt and to the point, but I feel you missed the point I was trying to make. To say my comment is in the same field as your comparison is simply glib.

Cal, I understand where you are coming from, and i would  probably do the same with old tires. Didnt realize thats ehat you were on. But that wont stop me from telling you to get new tires, bro!  I rode for a week in old tires and experienced the front slide out a little on gravel.  I didnt go down but scared me into new tires the very next day.

- Bboy

Bboy, in this case, twas my rear brake that saved my life. If i didnt lock up the rear tire and power slide that beast then i wouldve missed the dirt mound and gone over the edge (50ft drop...maybe more). I was going too fast to be able to stop myself with the front brakes. It really all comes down too how well you can crash safely (bit of irony in that phrase?)

[slipperymongoose]

What have I stumbled upon here? Ouch that sucks you crashed mate. Glad your mostly ok and the bike is repairable. I learnt the same lesson as well don't worry, your not the first and you won't be the last just be glad your in one piece

[kyled25]

It was only a 5 ft tall mound of dirt that kept me from going over the edge, which is a dead drop of about 30 ft I managed to walk away with a couple scrapes and bruises and a minor concussion

If i didnt lock up the rear tire and power slide that beast then i wouldve missed the dirt mound and gone over the edge(50ft drop...maybe more). I was going too fast to be able to stop myself with the front brakes. It really all comes down too how well you can crash safely (bit of irony in that phrase?)

I believe the accident happened and the drop was lethal, but I don't believe the mountain is growing. I'd like to see a pic looking over the edge! Gnarly story tho

[Janx101]

Ahh c'mon!! Don't let a mere slip up in distance wreck a story  ... It could have been '2 chains' worth .... Yes a 'chain' is an official if little used length of measure! 

Btw Jim ... Think about a wingsuit for next time eh!! 

[frylockjim]

It was only a 5 ft tall mound of dirt that kept me from going over the edge, which is a dead drop of about 30 ft I managed to walk away with a couple scrapes and bruises and a minor concussion

If i didnt lock up the rear tire and power slide that beast then i wouldve missed the dirt mound and gone over the edge(50ft drop...maybe more). I was going too fast to be able to stop myself with the front brakes. It really all comes down too how well you can crash safely (bit of irony in that phrase?)

I believe the accident happened and the drop was lethal, but I don't believe the mountain is growing. I'd like to see a pic looking over the edge! Gnarly story tho

Sorry for the slip up in distance. Its only a rough guess cause im not too good at distance measuring without a ruler and it was also at night and i had a minor concussion at the time. Once i get my bike up and running again im gonna go back up there (slowly this time) and take a pic of the dirt mound, my savior, and the drop.