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Oil leak- dripping down kickstand.

Started by Tallemertes, September 14, 2013, 07:05:50 PM

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Tallemertes

I've started to notice my kickstand leaving an oil stain. I'm guessing its a bad seal or gasket on the strator, shifter, or gearbox? I will take some pics later. Is this a common problem for the bike? I noticed my bike leaks more if its parked leaned farther over. Also the previous owner had a slow speed slide on the left side but I just recently noticed it so I don't think it's from that. It's a pretty slow leak. Any input would be appreciated. Thanks!

adidasguy

Not a common problem at all.
If has been dropped on the left, quite possibly the shifter rod got slightly bent and now the oil seal is starting to leak.
Clean things up. Remove the clutch cover. Clean inside there and look for oil. baby powder helps locate the source of the leak.

Dr.McNinja

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Quote from: Tallemertes on September 14, 2013, 07:05:50 PM
I've started to notice my kickstand leaving an oil stain. I'm guessing its a bad seal or gasket on the strator, shifter, or gearbox? I will take some pics later. Is this a common problem for the bike? I noticed my bike leaks more if its parked leaned farther over. Also the previous owner had a slow speed slide on the left side but I just recently noticed it so I don't think it's from that. It's a pretty slow leak. Any input would be appreciated. Thanks!


Seal behind the shifter rod. I can almost promise it. If it's not that may be your push rod seal (though it's not likely because the push rod seal will hemorrhage oil).

I had the same problem, took a pvc pipe with some tape on the end to not mar the seal and pounded it back into place. Never leaked again. YMMV, when I inspected my seal it looked perfectly fine except it was displaced. It's possible that when the bike went down, as adidasguy has already said, that the rod got bent. You can see the seal by removing the sprocket cover.

Zookmang

I had a leak coming from my stator cover at 13,000km (8,100 miles). Mechanic said it was very unusual. Also, it's not just excess chain lube leaking out of your sprocket cover is it? That fooled me once before when I first got my bike.

Dr.McNinja

Quote from: Zookmang on September 15, 2013, 12:24:35 AM
I had a leak coming from my stator cover at 13,000km (8,100 miles). Mechanic said it was very unusual. Also, it's not just excess chain lube leaking out of your sprocket cover is it? That fooled me once before when I first got my bike.

If his kickstand is leaving an oil stain it's certainly not chain lube.

Zookmang

Chainlube too thick to leave an oil stain?

Janx101


Zookmang


Janx101

Well ... Unless there's a broken Scott oiler there somewhere!

Funderb

don't worry about it, keep adding oil to the bike and remember to thank it for keeping the side stand well lubricated for you.  :thumb:
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Quote from: Tallemertes on September 14, 2013, 07:05:50 PM
I've started to notice my kickstand leaving an oil stain. I'm guessing its a bad seal or gasket on the strator, shifter, or gearbox? I will take some pics later. Is this a common problem for the bike? I noticed my bike leaks more if its parked leaned farther over. Also the previous owner had a slow speed slide on the left side but I just recently noticed it so I don't think it's from that. It's a pretty slow leak. Any input would be appreciated. Thanks!

No that is POS worthless garbage of a chain and the related chain lube.
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Tallemertes

I decided to clean the oil off so I could try to find the source of the leak and I think I found the cause! What's this thing? It's on the back part of the thingy with the heat fins.

mustangGT90210

Cam chain tensioner.



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Tallemertes

#13
I did a quick search and so I need a new gasket or seal for the cam chain tensioner?
Edit: Can I still ride my baby if it is a leaky cam chain tensioner?

gsJack

I beg to differ as usual.   :icon_lol:   It's most likely chain lube if you lube your chain as heavily as I do.  I first encountered it a few years ago when I noticed I had a shinny toe on my boot.  Oil was leaking out of the shifter lever shaft hole, running down the lever, and dripping on my toe.  After checking for obviously leaking seals inside there I finally cleaned up inside the sprocket cover housing and put it back on and the leak was gone.

Many more experiences but getting right up to date, I was leaking oil all over the garage floor last winter under that area.  With over 90k miles on the bike I first snugged down all housing cover bolts to see if that would help, it didn't.  Come early spring I took off the sprocket cover and cleaned it out and bingo, once again no more leak.  I was surprised it leaked that much thru the winter but that old accumulated chain lube runs like water when the engine gets hot.

So I just ran it longer without adding lube and no leak, then I lubed it heavily again and still no leak, but then after a while when I lubed heavily a second time it began leaking oil aka hot chain lube again.  It has to build up in there before it reaches the places it leaks out of.

By the way, talk of a leaking push rod seal above reminds me I had a leaker once after having cover off for sprocket change and after riding one mile up town and parking it leaked a big puddle.  Turns out I had put the push rod in quickly and rolled over the seal lip.  Put it back in right and it never leaked again.

And the suggestion it might be the cam chain tensioner, it might be but make sure you don't mess with it until you know what your doing.  A member pulled his recently to fix a leaking gasket and the engine is down now with bent valves.
407,400 miles in 30 years for 13,580 miles/year average.  Started riding 7/21/84 and hung up helmet 8/31/14.

gsJack

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Just saw your last post after I made my previous one.

You can ride with a moderate leak until fixed, I do.  Just make sure you keep the oil full enough.

Here's that thread on tensioner gasket change job going bad I referred to above.

http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=65246.0
407,400 miles in 30 years for 13,580 miles/year average.  Started riding 7/21/84 and hung up helmet 8/31/14.

gsJack

Just took another look at your tensioner picture and it looks like there is a lot of oil residue left on top of it.  Maybe oil is leaking from the valve cover gasket above the tensioner and running down on it?  Valve cover is a common place for oil leaks.
407,400 miles in 30 years for 13,580 miles/year average.  Started riding 7/21/84 and hung up helmet 8/31/14.

sledge

That's a typical oil-mist leak. Oil is being blown out under pressure through a small passage, like an aerosol, it leaves a film and dirt collects on it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oil_mist#Formation_of_Oil_Mist

You might get away with just tightening up the fastenings on the tensioner but also check the engine breather pipe on the top of the head, make sure its not blocked.

Funderb

#18
^^ I agree, try loosening it a little and tightening it back down EVENLY. Remember to retract the tensioner plunger when you tighten it back down, you do so by inserting a small straight slot screwdriver into the part that the little rubber bumper covers up and turning clockwise, and holding it in place, when you let go, the tensioner will spring forward into its rightful place, and does not ratchet back, so its important to tighten the assembly with slack in the chain.
You kind of need three hands to do it, but the hole is indexed to make this easier for you. Dont over tighten!!!!

Also, dont loosen the phillips head screws, unless you want a huge crappy mess


If it keeps leaking you can just go to an autoparts store and buy gasket material and make a new gasket. or just use thick paper. that works too.

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nico

This is great. I have an oil drip there as well...the two divits on the frame for the frame bolts get filled with oil after a LONG run on the bike, or on really hot days. i will remove the sprocket cover and clean out under there as well as go through all of the points mentioned here:
-Remove sprocket cover and clean out.
-Clean engine as much as possible
-Verify head breather pipe not obstructed.
-Snug cam chain tensioner

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