michelin pilot street radial

[Sasha]

Hi Guys,

I'm after new tyres and am of course leaning towards Sport Demon's as these seem to be the most recommended. Came across these Michelin's which look like they're fairly new (June 2013 release), and also come in our standard sizes.. anyone got any experience with these?

Cheers,
Sasha

[Atesz792]

Hi!
I'd also be interested in some info about these tyres.
Sooo, anyone?

Edit: Hmm, maybe one of the mods could move this thread to the general discussion?

[dkidd2004]

I have these on mine, maybe 100km since they were put on.

I noticed once they were scrubbed in that they have quite a good amount of grip, very sticky. The mechanic that recommended these said they would be good as a general commuter/weekend rider tyre. Apparently i'll get a decent amount of km/s out of them as well, ended up costing 350 AUD for them fitted and balanced (that's front and back)

[Atesz792]

Sounds good! Thanks for the info.
Maybe you could check back after a few thousand km, how you like them in the long run? If I'm not asking too much, of course

[peteGS]

Hmmm all I see on the Michelin site is Michelin Pilot Road and Michelin Pilot Activ, no Street?

I see the "Activ" is aimed at the GS500 and the sizes they have listed include good sizes for my 450 as well.

Are these the ones being talked about? If so, I'd be keen on a review as I have to compromise with sizes on the Sport Demons... even though I love how they grip...

[gsJack]

No, the Activ is their bias tire and has been around a few years.  The Pilot Streets are a new radial that comes in 110/70-17 front and 130/70-17 and 140/70-17 rear sizes in US.  They are not on Michelin US site yet but are on UK site with incomplete info.

http://moto.michelin.co.uk/tyres/michelin-pilot-street

[Janx101]

i do like the look of those!! .. and they are radial !!..

still love my SD's .. but ... ya never know...

[Atesz792]

That variant in gsJack's link is the bias version. Yep, they come with the same profile (and sizes, I think), cost around the same, but if 'Radial' is not directly displayed in the name, then it's the bias version! Not saying that's any worse, just FYI.

[gsJack]

I think you are right on that Michelin UK link Atesz792.  The ones in the sizes I mentioned that are for sale here are radials.  Here's a typical link for them at BikeBandit.  Product details states radial construction as do other links here for same tires.

http://www.bikebandit.com/michelin-pilot-street-motorcycle-tire

I went to Michelin France site and for the Pilot Streets it lists a bunch of sizes including the three I mentioned above but the others are narrower tires of various diameters and the construction is not clear (I don't speak French).  Looks like a mix of bias and radial tires?

[Atesz792]

I have a pdf somewhere (or I just read it online and forgot to save it), with Michelin's 'New for 2013' products. Seems like the radial version is the one that gets more media attention, and the bias one is marketed for 'small utility motorcycles & scooters, urban use'.
I don't know if there's any difference in their compound... maybe just marketing purposes (that they make the commercials for the radial version). I know the radials should be (=handle) better, why I'm saying all this is because I looked at their pricing and the bias one costs 15% more, so I don't really understand Michelin now.

Found it in the meantime:
http://www.google.hu/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CEEQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.michelin.com%2Fcorporate%2Fcontent%2FnewsAndPress%2Fproducts_and_services%2FTires%2FSix-new-tires-reflecting-the-same-strategy-MICHELIN-Total-Performance.pdf&ei=YH69UouKC6T0yAO67YHABg&usg=AFQjCNHdi8v0p5_I5ia8V5qnn20Gcq7d5Q&sig2=_GaiK1OLXhMx__p_oa46PQ

[gsJack]

Took another look at Michelin FR site and found a listing of the Pilot Street Radials we are getting here in US now:

http://moto.michelin.fr/pneus/michelin-pilot-street-radial#dim

A look at their application dropdown shows they list both the bias Activs and the Pilot Street Radials for the GS500E/F bikes:

http://moto.michelin.fr/pneus/michelin-pilot-street#compatibility

A listing of their full range of Pilot Streets doesn't show if they are bias or radial but I assume these are all bias tires:

http://moto.michelin.fr/pneus/michelin-pilot-street#dim

As far as I can recall this is the first tire maker to recommend a radial tire fitment for the GS500s although I've used radials off and on for years.  I think I'll move this to general discussion, might be of interest to more members that don't check her.

[peteGS]

Interesting, I'll have to look further into it when I'm not on my phone and see if they have 90/90-18 front and 100/90-18 rear for my 450... I think the profile is too pointy with the 100/90-18 front and 110/90-18 rear I have to use with the SD's.


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[bryan88]

One thing I would be concerned about is that the bikes listed seem to be 125's which would make weight an issue. I recently fitted a Pilot Sporty to my GS and only saw that it was mainly for 125's and 250's after I'd bought it (stupid I know). 5000kms later and its almost smooth. While the speed rating is fine, the weight is borderline for the GS and I think that is what has killed it off. Just something to consider.

[peteGS]

Pilot Sporty's would definitely be a no go...


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[prmas]

I have just returned from overseas this afternoon and just before I went (30 days ago) I fitted a 140/70/17 Pilot Street Radial as a replacement for the original BT45R. I wanted to fit a 140/70/17 Pilot Active as I have them on my Honda and have been very happy with them but the 140/70/17 size has been deleted and replaced with the Pilot Street Radial in Oz. I have not even ridden the bike with the new tyre yet so I cannot comment on it but hope to ride it in the next few days. I have a track day at Phillip Island on the 10th of Feb and hope to try it out there if the weather is not unkind. From memory (I may be wrong) I think that the Pilot Active was not made in 130/70/17 and neither is the new Pilot Street Radial. Also from memory, the PSR is not made in 110/70/17 for the front, 120/70 is the smallest. As I said, I have just returned and checked this forum so I have not had time to confirm the sizes. Correct me if I am wrong. 

Macka

[gsJack]

Pilot Street Radials available in US in 110/70, 130/70, and 140/70 sizes and that's only sizes listed on French site, not on US site yet but dealers have them.

http://moto.michelin.fr/pneus/michelin-pilot-street-radial#dim

Activs available here in both 130/70 and 140/70 sizes.

[prmas]

Thanks for that feedback GSJack. Different sizes for different markets. I know for certain that the 140/70/17 rear Activ has been deleted in Oz as I tried all East State distribution centres to get one. I was told by Victoria (where I live) that Queensland was showing two in their distribution warehouse but when I rang them they said that was not correct and they were gone, never to be replaced. 

Perhaps they lasted too long. On my Honda they have done about 18,oookm and the rear is about 1/2 worn. The front is about 2/3 worn.

The man who fitted the PSR for me said that he thought that it would be a good replacement for the Activ.

Macka

[CndnMax]

Might consider these, I need two new tires soon. Anyone know if cycle gear installs tires bought elsewhere?

[adidasguy]

I think any place installs tires bought elsewhere because they charge you - like $30 or so per tire.
A friend learned that the hard way. Bought tires on-line then with shipping and  installation costs they ended up more than had he bought them at the dealer where you get free installation with tire purchases.

[ohgood]

next set will be kenda cruiser (k 761) for me. cheap, long wearing.

enjoying some cheap road winner something or others now. if they last through a gymkhana and track day, I'll be happy.

can't wait to find another set of sticky bt090 (bt003) though