what do you think of 600's

[The Buddha]

I hated riding my ex-gf's gsxr600. Had to shift all the time and rev'd very quickly. Never got to ride any twisties with it. Didn't like either of my gixxer 750's. Too buzzy and had to keep the rpms up high for power. Maybe I have been spoiled by the v-twin of my TLR. The SV I had was a good riding bike as well and the engine was very compatable to my riding style.

Oh this is finally refreshing to hear from someone else.... The logical step up from the GS toward the sport bike genre is not a 600 or even a 750. I'd say R1 or GSXR 1000 or the older GSXR 1100/FZR 1000. The GSXR/R6 would be a step up from a 2 stroke 250. Now its good to hear the TL feels like the bigger brother of the GS. I should plan on getting one of those... if I ever get the herd down to a manageable 2-3.
Cool.
Srinath.

[dgyver]

I would be careful if going from a GS to a TL. I never took to any bike like I did to the TLR and getting on a GS was a very easy transition. I would recommend an SV before a TL though, unless you are very experienced with throttle control. The GS you can slam the throttle wide open with minimal concern. On a TL, slam it wide open...you better be ready. It will easily spin the rear tire exiting a turn and wheelie when ever you want (and sometimes when you don't!). Most people go up 1-3 teeth in the rear. At 3 times the horsepower (100-120hp) and 72+ pounds of torque, a touchy throttle can be intimidating. An 1 liter I-4 may have more HP but does not have the torque to match. In street riding, torque is where all the fun is anyway. But then the touchy throttle is typical of other 1 liter v-twins, like the RC51. An SV is a little more forgiving and is more agile. Don't believe the mags when they report weights of bikes. The TLR has been slated as a heavy bike but only weighs 5 pounds more than a RC51. I have already taken off around 30 pounds of excess weight. Change out the rear shock and thats another 10 pounds, but that will cost $500-$1000. One down side is that replacement parts (like fairings) are fairly expensive as compared to GSXR's. Not to many squids ridding & crashing TL's.
I wish Suzuki did not stop making the TL, it just never got the race support it needed.

[Adam R]

The logical step up from the GS toward the sport bike genre is not a 600 or even a 750. I'd say R1 or GSXR 1000 or the older GSXR 1100/FZR 1000.

You're assuming that the prospective buyer would want a 600 supersport.  What about a Honda F3/F4?  I've ridden the F3 at some length and found it comfortable, fast, and a lot of fun to ride.  In my opinion they make enough power and are geared in such a way as to not require excessive shifting either.  Not that shifting is bad, heck, I love high revs.

Adam

[mrslush50]

I would be careful if going from a GS to a TL. I never took to any bike like I did to the TLR and getting on a GS was a very easy transition. I would recommend an SV before a TL though, unless you are very experienced with throttle control. The GS you can slam the throttle wide open with minimal concern. On a TL, slam it wide open...you better be ready. It will easily spin the rear tire exiting a turn and wheelie when ever you want (and sometimes when you don't!). Most people go up 1-3 teeth in the rear. At 3 times the horsepower (100-120hp) and 72+ pounds of torque, a touchy throttle can be intimidating. An 1 liter I-4 may have more HP but does not have the torque to match. In street riding, torque is where all the fun is anyway. But then the touchy throttle is typical of other 1 liter v-twins, like the RC51. An SV is a little more forgiving and is more agile. Don't believe the mags when they report weights of bikes. The TLR has been slated as a heavy bike but only weighs 5 pounds more than a RC51. I have already taken off around 30 pounds of excess weight. Change out the rear shock and thats another 10 pounds, but that will cost $500-$1000. One down side is that replacement parts (like fairings) are fairly expensive as compared to GSXR's. Not to many squids ridding & crashing TL's.
I wish Suzuki did not stop making the TL, it just never got the race support it needed.

I always thought that (as if I could affourd either one) I'd much rather have a TLR than a GSXR.  The V-Twin just seems like a much better streetbike engine to me.  It's good to hear someone who owns one, confirm that opinion.  Maybe there's an SV1000S somewhere in my distant future.  

[gs2sv]

I went through the decision process last year, it was a tough choice. Personaly I am not a huge fan of the repli racers, I like them, but I can't see myself riding one everyday. I finally chose the sv650 (Naked). It suits my riding style and my needs perfectly. 95percent of my riding is in town during the week so I wanted something torqey I wouldn't have to wind out at every light(since we all know one of the highlights of riding is to make cagers in $60,000 sports cars feel bad about their purchase). Anyway I haven't regreted the SV purchase even for a second. Top bike for the cash, and the insurance runs me 2 dollars more a month than my wifes GS. Need I say more?

[dgyver]

One thing I forgot to mention...the TL-R is not just a fully faired version of the TL-S. They are similar but in the major areas they are completely different...frame, suspension & engine.

[alerbaugh]

I was looking at the SV650 but then decided I wasnted more power.  I love the 2 cylinder engine but I wanted something that would last a little longer on my power d0esire calender.  Now I'm loking heavily on the YZF600R and the F4i.  Just looking for the insurance.  If both the same I'll go for the F4i.  I hate ragging on the GS but I've gotten to a point where I want more power and primarily more accel.  Sorry GS!