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BockinBboy

Quote from: mister on January 05, 2014, 02:37:05 PM

When a wheel is rolling there is always a point of the wheel which is stationary - not moving forward or back or up or down.


By definition, 'rolling' means the entire wheel is moving in a uniform direction. Motion is a relative term. Maybe that point isn't moving in relation to the edges of the wheel, but it certainly is moving in relation to the surface the wheel is on.

Hell, everything is in motion even when it appears to be stationary by all conventional definitions... But in relation to the universe, everything is in motion!

- Bboy


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The Buddha

Quote from: The Buddha on January 06, 2014, 08:22:05 AM
Quote from: mister on January 05, 2014, 02:37:05 PM



If we need omega 3 fish oil as claimed. Then how did we live long enough to learn how to fish so we could get the fish to get their oil?


Omega 3 is in a lot of things, not just fish. So is omega 6.
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Buddha.

Flax Seeds, ground75132.9%


Walnuts16494.5%


Salmon24561.2%


Sardines18955.8%


Beef, grass-fed17545.8%


Soybeans29842.9%


Halibut15925.8%


Scallops12717%


Shrimp11215.4%


Tofu8615%

This looks weird, but google will tell ya ... lots of omega 3 in all sorts of things.
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mister

Quote from: BockinBboy on January 06, 2014, 09:41:40 AM
Quote from: mister on January 05, 2014, 02:37:05 PM

When a wheel is rolling there is always a point of the wheel which is stationary - not moving forward or back or up or down.


By definition, 'rolling' means the entire wheel is moving in a uniform direction. Motion is a relative term. Maybe that point isn't moving in relation to the edges of the wheel, but it certainly is moving in relation to the surface the wheel is on.

Hell, everything is in motion even when it appears to be stationary by all conventional definitions... But in relation to the universe, everything is in motion!

- Bboy

In relation to the surface? Nope, not moving then either.

Ok, so you are on your bike riding. Not anywhere in particular but you just so happen to be in the country and you've just topped the top of a crest. It's all downhill from here at 60mph. At any single snapshot in time, there is one part of the wheel which is stationary. It is not moving in relation to anything. The only movement it is exhibiting is the same movement a rock has because it happens to be on a big ball of mud hurtling through space at 67,000mph. Otherwise,, it is not moving.
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mister

Quote from: The Buddha on January 06, 2014, 11:22:30 AM
Quote from: The Buddha on January 06, 2014, 08:22:05 AM
Quote from: mister on January 05, 2014, 02:37:05 PM



If we need omega 3 fish oil as claimed. Then how did we live long enough to learn how to fish so we could get the fish to get their oil?


Omega 3 is in a lot of things, not just fish. So is omega 6.
Cool.
Buddha.

Flax Seeds, ground75132.9%


Walnuts16494.5%


Salmon24561.2%


Sardines18955.8%


Beef, grass-fed17545.8%


Soybeans29842.9%


Halibut15925.8%


Scallops12717%


Shrimp11215.4%


Tofu8615%

This looks weird, but google will tell ya ... lots of omega 3 in all sorts of things.
Cool.
Buddha.

So... removing the fish from your list we are left with flax, walnuts, grassfed beef and soy.

Flax isn't everywhere. And highly doubtful we picked a rockhard soybean off a tree and started munching, even if they were everywhere which they aren't. the grassfed beef exhibit the same problem I posed to begin with... we would perish before we lived long enough to slaughter the beef. That leaves walnuts which are not grown everywhere.

Buddha, *I* know where there is plentiful Omega 3 without needing those sources. The point of the question is to make you think...

IF we need it as claimed, we would have perished long before we figured out how to fish, or find a soyplant or whatever.

The conclusions which can be drawn from that are...

1. Either we don't need it as claimed, or

2. It is far more readily available in Common plant-based food. But we aren't told this because the people making the Omega claim have a product to sell you.
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adidasguy

The north magnetic pole is really south and the south pole is really north.
It used to be called "North pointing pole" because the north pole of a magnet pointed there. Same for south. After a while it was shortened to just "north pole"

http://www.kjmagnetics.com/FAQ.asp#identify

adidasguy

Remember when I had this in a posting back in September 2010? Interesting what has happened since then....

"Once Junior is determined what he will look like, there will be one heck of a garage sale of all the extra parts I ordered (or should I get a 3rd GS500?)"

Somehow I didn't stop at 3..... :cookoo:

RossLH

Quote from: BockinBboy on January 06, 2014, 09:41:40 AMBy definition, 'rolling' means the entire wheel is moving in a uniform direction. Motion is a relative term. Maybe that point isn't moving in relation to the edges of the wheel, but it certainly is moving in relation to the surface the wheel is on.

Hell, everything is in motion even when it appears to be stationary by all conventional definitions... But in relation to the universe, everything is in motion!

- Bboy

If the surface the wheel is rolling on is used as the frame of reference, there will be an instant in which a designated point on the circumference of the wheel will have zero velocity and zero acceleration.


gsJack

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BockinBboy

Point taken! Graciously, I'll add... good visual.  Seems I was texting during that point in the lecture some 5 years ago...

:cheers:

- Bboy


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mister

Quote from: RossLH on January 07, 2014, 06:09:24 PM
Quote from: BockinBboy on January 06, 2014, 09:41:40 AMBy definition, 'rolling' means the entire wheel is moving in a uniform direction. Motion is a relative term. Maybe that point isn't moving in relation to the edges of the wheel, but it certainly is moving in relation to the surface the wheel is on.

Hell, everything is in motion even when it appears to be stationary by all conventional definitions... But in relation to the universe, everything is in motion!

- Bboy

If the surface the wheel is rolling on is used as the frame of reference, there will be an instant in which a designated point on the circumference of the wheel will have zero velocity and zero acceleration.



Bingo, we have a winner  :thumb: :thumb:

Wonder if you could use that to fight a "failed to stop" charge. Well, your honor the wheels were stopped on the ground...

Then follow up with...

We cannot see movement, only the illusion of movement. Even at 100 frames per second, each frame is a still image. The blending of still images gives the illusion of movement. So I was in fact still, not moving, in all images and even to each signal sent to the eye.... Hmmm...
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Soloratov

"Bailiff, please remove this gentleman from my court. You are hereby charged with failure to stop. Your fine is due immediately. And sir, I suggest you keep that attitude out of my court."  :police:

pliskin

#71
On the wheel thing. You are mixing geometry with physics. There are an infinite number of points on the circumference of the wheel. So, if you play that same video of the wheel rotating for all intents and purposes it should be standing still. Or, it's just part of the simulation. :thumb:

OR

Could it be just by observing the wheel moving we are affecting how it's electrons act?
Why are you looking here?

RossLH

Quote from: pliskin on January 08, 2014, 08:22:11 PMCould it be just by observing the wheel moving we are affecting how it's electrons act?


Badot

Quote from: RossLH on January 07, 2014, 06:09:24 PM
If the surface the wheel is rolling on is used as the frame of reference, there will be an instant in which a designated point on the circumference of the wheel will have zero velocity and zero acceleration.

Not quite. The point is always accelerating to towards the center of the wheel.

yamahonkawazuki

Quote from: adidasguy on January 07, 2014, 04:32:06 PM
Remember when I had this in a posting back in September 2010? Interesting what has happened since then....

"Once Junior is determined what he will look like, there will be one heck of a garage sale of all the extra parts I ordered (or should I get a 3rd GS500?)"

Somehow I didn't stop at 3..... :cookoo:
I remember this and now we have huhsky. but you say it like its a bad thing. a gs is a good addiction to have lol :)
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Slack

Quote from: RossLH on January 07, 2014, 06:09:24 PM

If the surface the wheel is rolling on is used as the frame of reference, there will be an instant in which a designated point on the circumference of the wheel will have zero velocity and zero acceleration.



Does it actually reach 0 or does the calculation end up being undefined at that point?  I'm trying to think it through, and I can't say why exactly it would be undefined, but I feel that it might be.
Quote from: MeeLee on June 07, 2015, 07:14:25 PM
Be aware, this is not very wise advise!

RossLH

If you're plotting it on an x/y plane, it'd technically be undefined. At that instant the point is accelerating straight up.

pliskin

#77
At the point on the plain where the point on the wheel meet, means this........not matter where you go, there you are.  P+P=U (point plus point=you). Not that's some good stuff there. Even better than E=Mc2 maybe?

By the way. "No mater where you go, there you are", was my old signature before "a day with out a buzz was a day that never was".  It's like I've come full circle. No pun intended.

I don't know but we might solve the mystery of the universe here :thumb:.
Why are you looking here?

john

Quote from: pliskin on January 12, 2014, 08:52:39 PM
At the point on the plain where the point on the wheel meet means this........not matter where you go, there you are.  P+P=U (point plus point=you). Not that's some good stuff there. Even better than E=Mc2 maybe?

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pliskin

#79
John, now you're fracking with me. I just watched some comedy movie the other night with that dude in it. Some movie where he was in Martha's Vineyard where he blew up a house. can't remember the name. Never saw that actor in my life and you post a clip of him after I see him in a movie. Like I said, it's a circle. WTF is going on?
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