Is a GS worn out at 100,000 miles?

[gsJack]

Thanks Rob, I'll check on the locktite type when I go get the bolts for the clutch to rotor, they didn't break or bend but got a little extra wear and tear on them while they were loose:



Think I'll lap the taper and put a little locktite on it too.

[robfriedenberger]

Mine looked liked that, they are still laying around somewhere. My local Ace had replacement bolts, but I ordered all the hardware online.

[Big Rich]

Jack, I don't know where exactly you're at in Ohio, but I just wanted to let you know I have a GS500 bottom end laying in my garage if you need any parts from it. It's an 89 model (I'm pretty sure anyway.....) and I don't plan on using the bottom end for anything.

Just wanted to get that out there.

[robfriedenberger]

Big rich that's not going to last long now it's out there! =)


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[Big Rich]

Ha! The only things I plan on using from the bottom end is the clutch basket, oil pump assembly, con rods, etc.. While I'm not actively parting out the motor, I'll gladly help out Jack if it gets him back on the road. I actually forgot about the motor until a week or two ago.

[Joolstacho]

So the knock turns out to have been the starter clutch Jack, - (note those stripped bolt threads).
This noise keeps coming up as an issue, and people are saying... balance shaft... big end... mains etc.
Any 'hard to locate by ear' knocking / clattering sound at lower revs... I reckon this should be first on the suspect list.

[gsJack]

Jack, I don't know where exactly you're at in Ohio, but I just wanted to let you know I have a GS500 bottom end laying in my garage if you need any parts from it. It's an 89 model (I'm pretty sure anyway.....) and I don't plan on using the bottom end for anything.

Just wanted to get that out there.

I live in Willoughby just east of Cleveland but will be moving out to Madison a little further east in a couple months.  See you are near Pittsburgh, I lived in Ben Avon and Avalon when I was a little kid but moved to Chicago with family when I was 12.  Family comes from Little Washington just south of Pittsburg, my brother still lives there as do many other relatives I haven't seen in decades.  Family settled there in 1792 so there must be a lot of relatives around there.   

Thanks for the offer Rich but I don't plan on doing anything that big on the bike with the move coming up soon.  Don't need bike torn apart in my old garage at this time.  Would have left it as is for now but it's looking like problem was only the loose starter clutch knocking and rattling and it should be up and running again in a couple days.   

[gsJack]

So the knock turns out to have been the starter clutch Jack, - (note those stripped bolt threads).
This noise keeps coming up as an issue, and people are saying... balance shaft... big end... mains etc.
Any 'hard to locate by ear' knocking / clattering sound at lower revs... I reckon this should be first on the suspect list.

Have to agree with that Jools, I checked out the goats thing and the starter drive first early last month.  Starter drive looked and felt tight and was functioning properly then just after the noise started. 

Pull the rotor, my starter clutch was making that nose due to being locked up and jumping, I don't think there was any play in the rotor either


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I buttoned the left side back up today Rob and got it running again before I saw your post.  I really checked that starter clutch as best I could though.  When I first came home with the knock I shut it off and restarted it repeatedly and it fired up so fast I couldn't hear the starter turning and released every time.  Then after I had it opened up I grabbed the big gear on the back of the rotor and turned it ccw and it turned the crank and then cw and it turned free and did that repeatedly and it all seemed to be working OK.  Hope I didn't miss anything, thanks for the input.

Guess I did miss something.   

[Big Rich]

First time I read that, I thought it said 1972...... big difference! But yeah, I'm about 45 minutes NW of Pittsburgh, 20 minutes SE of New Castle. If you're ever in the area and want to cruise around, let me know.

[thebook92]

If you ever really need a 14x1.5 bolt, a Honda Civic drain plug is that pitch and works perfectly for taking those off. (Ask me how I know. :rolleyes:) Make sure you get one that looks like this:



Can usually be found at any auto parts store; barring that, check with your local Jiffy Lube or equivalent.

[robfriedenberger]

That's awesome to know, any idea on what year range ?


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[thebook92]

Just about every Honda car uses the same plug. Tell them a 2003 with a 1.6 engine and you'll get the right thing.

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[bombsquad83]

Can you explain what you are talking about with lapping the taper?  Also, what is the extra bolt for?  I'm just trying to understand this if it ever happens to my bike.

[robfriedenberger]

bombsquad83,

Take a look at this video,

The taper is what the rotor is mounted to.

The extra bolt is used as a tool, to pull the rotor from the tapper.

Adidasguy did not lap the tapper, but you would clean the tapper and rotor really good, add a smear of valve grinding compound to the tapper and put the rotor on it and spin it. This will make the rotor seat perfectly to the tapper.

[gsJack]

It starts and runs.   

And doesn't knock anymore! 


Ready for another 100,000 miles.

[bombsquad83]

That is beyond awesome.  I've been watching this closely and routing for you Jack.

[Atesz792]

Congrats, Jack!
I've been watching this thread, too.
I have to say, you are quite the inspiration!

[robfriedenberger]

gsjack, that's awesome, it's a very eluding problem!


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[Badot]

Haha, now if only there was an easy way to stop the oil consumption you might get another 100 out of it 

[robfriedenberger]

Just run gear oil, should slow It down! =) lol


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