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What a nightmare! *UPDATE*

Started by ragecage23, April 11, 2015, 05:57:05 PM

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rg500gamma

Quote from: Suzuki Stevo on April 14, 2015, 08:30:46 PM
A longer hose works too.


yes indeed a longer hose ..........  mine came with a very small factory plug & hose clip .   
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rg500gamma

mine  had a factory Suzuki plug & hose clip  ,  ( very small )   but  yes has  to be  pluged  .   
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rg500gamma

Suzuki Stevo  showing  a longer hose on port  to make carb syncing  way  easyier  .   
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ragecage23

Okay, cool. Does anyone know about the middle T connection?

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Previous bikes: 2002 Ninja 250R
                       2009 Suzuki GS500F (rest in peace)
Current bike: 2007 Kawasaki ZX-10R

rg500gamma

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type  in bike bandit   ,   enter  you bike   2009   gs500f   streetbike     ,  has online parts  view  of carbs
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Big Rich

That middle T connection : the carb vent hose. GSJack got it earlier. It allows air to go into the carbs as gas is sucked out, so your carbs don't become a sealed vacuum.
83 GR650 (riding / rolling project)

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Suzuki Stevo

Quote from: ragecage23 on April 14, 2015, 08:52:32 PM
Okay, cool. Does anyone know about the middle T connection?

It's a vent hose that goes over the top of the airbox and then vents to the ground IIRC.

It's the hose on the far right of the photo

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ragecage23

Sorry for the redundancy, but the top two T connections are just open end tubes that don't connect to anything?
Previous bikes: 2002 Ninja 250R
                       2009 Suzuki GS500F (rest in peace)
Current bike: 2007 Kawasaki ZX-10R

gsJack

407,400 miles in 30 years for 13,580 miles/year average.  Started riding 7/21/84 and hung up helmet 8/31/14.

Janx101

The T bones connected to the brass thing. .. the brass things connected to the something.... the somethings connected to my wristwatch! Uh oh!
;)

ragecage23

I must be missing parts then.
Previous bikes: 2002 Ninja 250R
                       2009 Suzuki GS500F (rest in peace)
Current bike: 2007 Kawasaki ZX-10R

ragecage23

Just an update. I've bought some of the parts I was missing and made the others. I should be able to fire it up this coming weekend by feeding fuel through the lines. Now I just need to get all the rust out of the tank.
Previous bikes: 2002 Ninja 250R
                       2009 Suzuki GS500F (rest in peace)
Current bike: 2007 Kawasaki ZX-10R

ragecage23

So I've got all the hoses hooked up properly, freshly charged battery, turn the bike on and I see lights. Turn signals, headlight, taillight, it all works. I go to start it and nothing. Just sounds like sparks coming from this area.



Any ideas?
Previous bikes: 2002 Ninja 250R
                       2009 Suzuki GS500F (rest in peace)
Current bike: 2007 Kawasaki ZX-10R

Big Rich

Just getting the obvious out of the way first: clutch safety switch, kill switch, and side stand switch aren't the problems, correct?

I think that's the starter relay in the pic. Never heard of sparks coming from one, though. Is that fuse good? Check to see if there is any kind of corrosion near the wires on the relay.
83 GR650 (riding / rolling project)

It's opener there in the wide open air...

ragecage23

Turns out the battery was bad. I got a new one and it turns over no problem. Just need to get the rust out of my tank and I'll be back on two wheels.
Previous bikes: 2002 Ninja 250R
                       2009 Suzuki GS500F (rest in peace)
Current bike: 2007 Kawasaki ZX-10R

ragecage23

Alright time for an update. Rust is out of the tank and everything is hooked up properly. I noticed when I was draining the tank that there wasn't as free of a flow as there was draining the bad fuel. I didn't think anything of it because this was metal rescue and no fuel. So I tried to start it and it turns over sounds like it wants to start (this is with choke on completely and also note there is still very little metal rescue in the fuel tank.) I turn the idle screw about 10-15 time clockwise and it runs. It's at very high rpms, not sure how much because the Tach wasn't working at the time. So I turn it down a bit and it dies. Turn it back up and it sounds okay for the choke being on. I let it warm up for about a minute and take the choke off and it dies again. I continue to mess with the idle screw and finally get it to about right, it's very rough at idle, but if I turn it up anymore the rpms skyrocket. Now I have a hanging idle as well.

So my question/problem is: should the idle adjustment screw be that sensitive? And how do I fix the hanging idle?
Previous bikes: 2002 Ninja 250R
                       2009 Suzuki GS500F (rest in peace)
Current bike: 2007 Kawasaki ZX-10R

rg500gamma

sounds  like carbs are still dirty ,   I  took my carbs off  and got them  ultrasound  cleaned , no more  problems at all ,   problem  when gas sits  in carbs after  only 3 weeks  of non-use  over here in los angeles   ..........     I tried  sea-foam  in gas tank  first ,   did not  work  ,   still had hanging  idle  ,  anyways  ultrasound   cleaning  of carbs  works  great  ............... :thumb:
Some people   say  Disneyland  is the happiest place on earth ,  I say  Playboy  Mansion ..............

ragecage23

I've had the carbs rebuilt and this is the first time running gas through them since the rebuild.
Previous bikes: 2002 Ninja 250R
                       2009 Suzuki GS500F (rest in peace)
Current bike: 2007 Kawasaki ZX-10R

Janx101

Check the connections, tubes and settings again, make sure it's all correct again...... no matter that you did it before!.. something is setup wrong and you have an issue/s. ..
(No heat in the above!) just if it was all exact/correct you wouldn't be having issues hmm?

Check everything! Again! :)

Also .. and I think this is correct (maybe Buddha can correct?),  when it all internals confirmed correct. .turn all the screws gently to fully closed... that way you know exactly where you starting from! ... the turn each out the (various) recommended amount of turns to the 'accepted' settings.... again you will know where they are! ... try the start and report. . Then 'we' have a new static baseline to adjust from.

Starting in the middle of somewhere and half a turn left or 9 turns right gives no solid info.

:thumb:

ragecage23

I've read somewhere on here about fuel and air mixture screws, should I leave those alone? And alright I'll triple check everything when I get back to my bike.
Previous bikes: 2002 Ninja 250R
                       2009 Suzuki GS500F (rest in peace)
Current bike: 2007 Kawasaki ZX-10R

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