What is this sound?

[Jimbob]

Ha! You guys....
The front gear looks a little worn, so I'm replacing both front/rear & chain.
Any shortcuts to getting the old chain off?

You can get a chain breaker, something like this http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/like/121955728343?lpid=107&chn=ps

[fetor56]

Ha! You guys....
The front gear looks a little worn, so I'm replacing both front/rear & chain.
Any shortcuts to getting the old chain off?

Angle grinder with a 1mm blade.

[gsJack]

Keeping my bike in a non electric garage the last 20 years I just just cut old chain off with a hacksaw, quick and easy with a good blade.

When I replaced a chain I ALWAYS used one with a clip type master link. I NEVER used an endless one.

[1034am]

Hacksaw it is.
Thx again. Could not have gotten this bike road-ready without all of your helps.
Much appreciated.

[jdoorn14]

Don't forget what it says in the handbook 

When you replace the chain ALWAYS use an endless one. NEVER use a jointed one.

Let's think about this...how does one make a chain endless?    Bet they didn't grow it like that or pull it out of a magic hat. The only difference in my mind is when/where/how it was riveted.

But we should all do what the old-timers tell us. So, since sledge forgot to use sarcasm tags, I'm taking him literally that we should all use endless chains like the owner's manual states.  

[sledge]

I tend to believe what I read in the owner's manual.

Good for you Sonny, so do I (in the main) but it looks like yet another `old timer` has stuck his oar in and questioned the Holy Book of Suzuki!!

Given you seem to be the one insisting you have to do EVERYTHING by the book the way Suzuki wrote it and then taking umbrage when others suggest its not always necessary do you have any condemnation for those (some even older than me!) who deify the all knowing Suzuki engineers and say joint the chain with a clip rather than something a bit more permanent? 

BTW....The term `endless`.... you have to use a bit of imagination here (difficult for some I know ) and realise the book has been translated from raw Japanese, consequently some terms may be a bit ambiguous and have maybe lost something in translation however I think it safe to assume that the term is intended to describe something that's permanently jointed ie: without ends, don't you? or are you just going to carry on playing dumb?

As regards chain clip joints my take is simple, if you DONT have one it cant brake or fall out on a rainy Sunday night 300 miles from home leading to a lot of inconvenience and a lot of cost, want to ask me how I know? or can you work it out for yourself?

Of course you could always take the `it wont ever happen to me approach` but that's you call 

THATS all experience (gained the hard way) for you and as an old timer I am happy to pass it on.   

Now....will someone please tell me where the sarcasm tags are??

[jdoorn14]

I tend to believe what I read in the owner's manual.

Good for you Sonny, so do I (in the main) but it looks like yet another `old timer` has stuck his oar in and questioned the Holy Book of Suzuki!!

Given you seem to be the one insisting you have to do EVERYTHING by the book the way Suzuki wrote it and then taking umbrage when others suggest its not always necessary do you have any condemnation for those (some even older than me!) who deify the all knowing Suzuki engineers and say joint the chain with a clip rather than something a bit more permanent? 

BTW....The term `endless`.... you have to use a bit of imagination here (difficult for some I know ) and realise the book has been translated from raw Japanese, consequently some terms may be a bit ambiguous and have maybe lost something in translation however I think it safe to assume that the term is intended to describe something that's permanently jointed ie: without ends, don't you? or are you just going to carry on playing dumb?

As regards chain clip joints my take is simple, if you DONT have one it cant brake or fall out on a rainy Sunday night 300 miles from home leading to a lot of inconvenience and a lot of cost, want to ask me how I know? or can you work it out for yourself?

Of course you could always take the `it wont ever happen to me approach` but that's you call 

THATS all experience (gained the hard way) for you and as an old timer I am happy to pass it on.   

Now....will someone please tell me where the sarcasm tags are??

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Nevermind. I'm done with this conversation.

[Slack]

I skipped the "How to tighten your chain" part of the thread, so I may have missed it, but.....
It sounds like super worn out sprockets or a too tight chain to me.