This is gonna sound really stupid, but...

[scratch]

I'll second what Jace said, I use the chian wax and am very pleased with it. Since, I'll be replacing my chain this week, I went ahead and bought a 'Grunge Brush' to remind me to CLEAN the chain, since I've never done this before (I know I should). I've heard of using kerosene to clean both the chain and rims. I was going to go this route, unless anybody has any warnings. I've never liked WD40, it attracts too much dirt; prefer using 'Liquid Wrench' for a bolt-loosening oil (another subject best left for another thread).

[The Buddha]

Nope... I use dish wshing liquid to clean them all. Chain, wheel and tire. Hell I cleaned the inside carpet of my truck which had un believeable grease and oil stains with it and it cleane it all out to new. Nothing else works like it.
Cool.
Srinath.

[sanityfree]

Dawn, or Cascade, or Palmolive, or Joy, or what?

[Turkina]

I'll second what Jace said, I use the chian wax and am very pleased with it. Since, I'll be replacing my chain this week, I went ahead and bought a 'Grunge Brush' to remind me to CLEAN the chain, since I've never done this before (I know I should). I've heard of using kerosene to clean both the chain and rims. I was going to go this route, unless anybody has any warnings. I've never liked WD40, it attracts too much dirt; prefer using 'Liquid Wrench' for a bolt-loosening oil (another subject best left for another thread).

I think the Haynes manual or something recommends using kerosene to clean the crud from your chain.  When I first got my bike, the chain was all sorts of nasty and had surface rust.  Although I didn't remove the chain, I cleaned it with kero and now it looks much better and then I put chain wax on it.

[scratch]

Cool!

[JohNLA]

Yes, the owner manual recomends Kerosine and that is also the main ingrediant in WD-40.

[aslam]

Though I've heard that the additives in WD-40 are not suitable for o-ring chains.  Oh well, kerosine is kerosine as I always say.  

ASLAM.

[jake42]

That said, I was planning to try a chain wax for the first time as I heard some good things about them. Supposedly it doesn't fly off and doesn't attract much dirt. We'll see about that.

I use a wax and it seems to be staying on pretty well...or alteast 10x better than the old blue/grease/ stuff I was using for awhile. I'ts not 100% fling-off proof but it does stick and stay pretty well

what brand do you use and where did you get it (shop, internet)?

thanks
jake

[Gisser]

Can we have some proof on how lube doesn't do anything to help your chain?

Well, in the absence of published scientific method, the best proof is your own personal experience.  Needless to say, O-ring chains have their own supply of grease sealed inside the rollers.  My own observation is that greasing O-ring chains doesn't extend the life enough (if at all)  to bother with, although my previous observation was that lubing the chain creates a mess.  I prefer a clean, shiney chain & sprockets & wheels & etc.

Of course, if the chain isn't an O-ring variety, then lube is necessary to keep it from drying up.  On the other hand, people using chain wax might exercise their own observation to see that stray O-rings aren't collecting behind the sprocket cover.

[Lars]

I would only clean the outside of the chain with a rag with some kerosene or diesel on it. I think otherwise you flush the contamination into the chain. Just lube the chain so the rollers don't wear and the O-rings don't dry out.

I always use diesel to clean the chain or engine parts. It's not really agressive and leaves a protective oily layer on it.  (And it cheap  :mrgreen: )

[scratch]

That said, I was planning to try a chain wax for the first time as I heard some good things about them. Supposedly it doesn't fly off and doesn't attract much dirt. We'll see about that.

I use a wax and it seems to be staying on pretty well...or alteast 10x better than the old blue/grease/ stuff I was using for awhile. I'ts not 100% fling-off proof but it does stick and stay pretty well

what brand do you use and where did you get it (shop, internet)?

thanks
jake

Maxim or Maxxim Chain Wax, got it at the m/c accessory shop.