Turn signals issue

[Masterflies]

Hi, i have an issue with turn signals. I've moved my GS500 to another country (Estonia), and during registration I've returned back its native lights and turn signals, to pass the inspection. All went good, and after doing some wiring I've put my LED lights and signals back again. And now they do not work properly - they are not blinking at all, just constantly are on, shining with a weak light... I suspect it's a relay issue, but what if it is something else? Any advises, guys? Before that, my LED turn lights were working properly.

[The Buddha]

The relay makes a noise - like a crrrrk click click click ... if its not making that noise, you're likely needing the electronic relay - a wagner 552 in US part number.
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[mentalshark]

did you have the relay swapped for the LED one? did you have the front and rear changed to LED at the same time? did your led has 3 wires?

[Masterflies]

The relay makes a noise - like a crrrrk click click click ... if its not making that noise, you're likely needing the electronic relay - a wagner 552 in US part number.
Cool.
Buddha.

Hi Budda! Does it make noise even in case LED lights? if yes, then it should be it, cause at the moment I can hear nothing...

[Masterflies]

did you have the relay swapped for the LED one? did you have the front and rear changed to LED at the same time? did your led has 3 wires?

Hi, yes, relay was the LED one. As I mentioned, it worked previously.
I just removed native blinkers and was trying to add LEDs one by one.
My led has 2 wires, not 3.

[The Buddha]

The electronic relay makes a much fainter and just click click - I think. Or they may be completely silent.

The original GS relay is called a bi-metal relay. It needs current draw to heat and break the circuit and when cool it re contacts. That's why all the creaking and clicking. So an led swap will result in no draw and hence no flashing, it will come on and stay on.

So you need a current draw independent electronic relay. I dont know how it worked on LED's before without that.

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Buddha.

[Masterflies]

Buddha, I have the one modified for LEDs, that's why it worked.

[mentalshark]

Just to clarify, did you swap to led one by one (meaning the system running a mix of led and regular bulbs at the same time on a led flash relay), or did you remove all bulbs then install then one by one?

Because in theory, if you ran regular bulbs on led flash relay you could burn the LEDs flash relay. As Buddha explain that flasher draws current and heat up to break the circuit. LED draws very little current and that's why it won't heat up enough on led flasher relay. So led flasher relay uses a lot less current and by putting a regular bulbs you may have fried the relay.

Either way, to test the leds, you can just grab two wires and connect it directly to the battery to see if it works, if not try flipping the connection. If the led is fine, check the connection to the led (mine is a F model that has extra bullet connection to the light), try flipping it see if it helps. If led is fine and it won't work when everything are in their place, its likely your relay is fried.

Good luck

[Masterflies]

Thank you, Mentalshark! I will try with the new relay first!

[The Buddha]

Just to clarify, did you swap to led one by one (meaning the system running a mix of led and regular bulbs at the same time on a led flash relay), or did you remove all bulbs then install then one by one?

Because in theory, if you ran regular bulbs on led flash relay you could burn the LEDs flash relay. As Buddha explain that flasher draws current and heat up to break the circuit. LED draws very little current and that's why it won't heat up enough on led flasher relay. So led flasher relay uses a lot less current and by putting a regular bulbs you may have fried the relay.

Either way, to test the leds, you can just grab two wires and connect it directly to the battery to see if it works, if not try flipping the connection. If the led is fine, check the connection to the led (mine is a F model that has extra bullet connection to the light), try flipping it see if it helps. If led is fine and it won't work when everything are in their place, its likely your relay is fried.

Good luck

The wagner 552 relay (the electronic one) used to be available in 2 different versions. One was $2 and one was like $5. The $5 one had a smoked clear casing, and really it looked nothing like it would burn. I have seen that type of relay in amps and other things. Burn - unlikely at 1-2 amp 12v. But then again, that was 15 or so yrs ago, and the chinese would have done their best to make it burn I'd bet.
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Buddha.